Axelteas.7192

The result of the disbalanced patch.... Thief actually unplayable

During the quarantine I talked about GW2 to my best friend and told him to give it a try. He spent all day trying to create a account filling all the gaps correctly and the same message appears:

Unespecified error. try later

Is something wrong?

Now that everybody agrees that hammer guardian is trash and dead after the patch, I expected some response from developers.

> @"Dirame.8521" said:

> > @"swagolas.9732" said:

> > Love your ideas, but grenades are totally nerfed and bombs are fine, but they are more effective with talents logicly. Thinking about some kind of condi scrapper too, but they have no synergy nowadays :( maybe I'll try 3 kit p/p with sneak gyro or something like this

>

> Condi Scrapper is amazing! What you mean no synergy? Check this out;

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PegAo6lZw+YdsLWJO8K5tVA-z5YXGNWAZmAKPA

>

> Flashbang + Expert Examination

> Flashbang + Kinetic Stabilizers + Mass Momentum.

>

> Amazing synergies right there!

Scrapper isnt a core build

The 2vs2 killed the PvP. In capturing maps some classes took profit of quickness or teleports to cap points, some dps hide and instakill,now these roles are over.

Always wins who are tanky and conditions.

Thief in pvp is dead, power mesmer too, crit reaper dead.

Core mesmers arent overpowered, mirages do.

If you die early you cannot move until your team wins the match or is dead.

The "if you dont move or press any button youll be kicked" appears....

If the fight is more than a minute youll be kicked for afk.... this is really stupid

weaver and firebrand

I play a core elementalist with scepter focused in condition damage, specially burn, I call him the Pyromancer.

Sinister armor with bathazar/baelfire runes to increase burn. Its amazing how burn stacks grow and the enemies die quickly.

I also tried it in Wvw but with the variant of adding thoughness to the condition and works well against peple who go full berseker, they have no time to clean so much burn.

I mean if you summon the greatsword youll make more damage wearing berserker equipment than soldier or is it indepenednt like the enginner kits?

> @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said:

> > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:

> > I'll bite. What's a 'hard core character'?

>

> One with 1 life. If you die, your character is deleted along with their equipment and inventory.

So if your character dies for lag or a internet disconnection? who you'd want to kill?

People rages in Pvp for losing a match... imagine losing a "elite character" ... extreme toxicity, serious menaces between players... NO

> @"hellsqueen.3045" said:

> > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > @"hellsqueen.3045" said:

> > > > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > > > @"hellsqueen.3045" said:

> > > > > > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > > > > > @"Vinceman.4572" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > > > > > > I paid the game in 2012. I tried the PoF expansion in beta and my Pc barely could move the game at 2-3 fps, obviously I'm not gonna buy a expansion i cant play fluidly.

> > > > > > > > Thats why core players should have access to basic mounts or rent tickets.

> > > > > > > > And yes thye mount feature is a pay to win, because riding one in WvW gives you 2 lives, so a core player has to kill him in mount, and then down again while the core only has one. end of story.

> > > > > > > > Its sad that puting Gw2 for free has made that old players that bought the game in beta 2012 are considered and criticized like if they the same newbies that never paid... alt accounts and bots

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You know, 2012 is 8 years away from now. My pc which was substituted by me last week for a newer machine was from that year and I can still run the game on that old one perfectly fine using medium to low graphic settings - all above 30 fps. So, your pc must be older than that or a "cheap", not-up-to-date version if bought later. Note that my pc even was a mediocre one and far from high end in 2012. Don't you think that running an - I would call it - inappropriate pc in 2020 is the mistake or a bad habit by the game developer that actively releases content to the recent day? I started playing early 2013 and that didn't stop me to spend a few bucks for both expansion (actually I bought the elite version) and an additional account for 10€ + 15€. For 7.5 years of playing a game with little pauses this is very little money and in addition I bought some gems as well but not regularly and not much. Of course I'm not happy with the game's situation but man so many years of playing and getting so much for free that I'm in some cents per hour of entertaining. One visit at the cinema or a good eating out with colleagues would cost far more than 3 months of playing GW2.

> > > > > > > That's why I call this sad because it's incredible entitlement from your side.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well i dont have the money to buy a new gaming pc to be able to play the Pof expansion, but this isnt the topic.

> > > > > > The main discussuion is that mounts provide a BIG advantage that makes this considered pay to win.

> > > > > > What makes me angry is that when the game was launched Arenanet promised that this would never be pay to have advantages over other players, that pay items would only provide "cosmetic" benefits.

> > > > > > And by Enimerating this promises I've been banned for 3 days in this forum... for telling the truth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It seems Anet dont want new players know the original vision for this game and how they sold it in 2012, the opposite what is now.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. If you bought a computer a long time ago, you have to realise that it will become outdated and should save if you wish to stay up to date. If you bought a computer without doing your reasearch on what is good and will last you long enough, then that is on you.

> > > > > 2. Mounts are not pay to win advantages. An expansion expands the entire game experience in a pay to play way. It isn't pay to win.

> > > > > 3. They haven't broken their promise over pay to win advantages, that comes down to the gem store only and there are no true advantages their only QOL stuff.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ya'll would be having a cry because they never released anything new or changed up the game.

> > > > >

> > > > > As I said, the only time it could ever be an advantage is via WvW, and the way they can fix that is just letting them unlock the Warclaw as we all did, but not let them use it outside of WvW if they don't have PoF. Simple.

> > > > >

> > > > > Basically, if I have a mount in PvE it doesn't do anything to hurt your experience.

> > > > > They added mounts for the race achievements. They can add that WvW lets everyone have the Warclaw but only in WvW unless you own PoF and then you can use the Warclaw in PvE (not that you would want to because its the slowest and worst mount anyway otherwise).

> > > > >

> > > > > You are the kind of person that cripples creative visions for the games by acting like progress ruins things for others.

> > > > >

> > > > > Buying the expansion is the only way to have the full game these days, if you are an original player and refuse to buy the expac for whatever your reasons, thats on you. It doesn't make it pay to win.

> > > >

> > > > Are you sure mounts arent pay to win?

> > > >

> > > > Halloween events are available for everybody , they do not belong to expansion maps.

> > > > You cant have the lunatic festival achievement, because core players dont have a mount (even rented) to participate in the mad king race.

> > > > As other mate commented https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/10732/core-halloween-festival-lunatic-racer-achievement-can-only-be-done-with-path-of-fire-mounts.

> > > > You dont pay? you cant win

> > >

> > > Rented Mounts Exist.

> > > If the achieves can't be got even on a rented mount, then the timer needs to be adjusted to allow the mount to just barely get the time.

> > > And even someone with POF could have the same trouble as someone on a rented mount if they haven't bothered to get rhe masteries on their mount.

> > >

> > > Having the mount via POF doesn't give you advantage at base level, once you get masteries WHICH YOU AS A PLAYER GO OUT AND EARN.

> > >

> > > And my ability to race is still not effecting someone else because during the festivals, there is no achievement for coming in a top 3 position. There is only beating the time limit which means you are racing a clock.

> > >

> > > The only time actual race placement matters is in POF maps, where people without mounts aren't going to be.

> > >

> > > Free players are free to try players. They have rented mounts. That is all they need.

> > > As I have said, I would give the exception to WvW because that is still base game thing (technically), so for movement I think free players should be able to earn the Warclaw and use it in WvW at the very least. But I would dare even let free players have their Warclaw in PvE, its the worst mount anyway for PvE and it could promote purchases because if that cool mount is the worst then I want the better ones.

> > >

> > > And the Warclaw would be pretty terrible for races so renting would still be necessary for races.

> > >

> > > But overall if you don't buy the expansion for a pay to play game, it is on you.

> > >

> > > "But what if I don't have a computer that can run the expansion?"

> > > Then your computer probably can't run much at a bare minimum anyway and it is time for you to save up for an upgrade.

> > >

> > > "I just bought a PC and it can barely run it?"

> > > Then why didn't you do your research so you didn't waste your money on a bad PC in the first place.

> > >

> > > "I can't afford the expansion"

> > > That isn't anyone else's problem. The expansion is the full game experience these days, the base game is now free to try. If you are level 80 and you want more from the game, you buy the expansion. If you can't buy the expansion right now, that's fine but then you accept that you don't get the rest of the game experience.

> > >

> > > Your excuses are tiring. Your accusations that this is Pay To Win is tiring.

> > >

> > > You can complain about WvW with mounts, but that's about it. And even that is far from the intention of Pay To Win because it only gives you a mobility advanatge. The extra health is negligible at best.

> > >

> > > The bonus attack is probably helpful but yo balance that, you remove damage and instead use it to buff the player with a stack of like protection or whatever. So it is still an initiation skill but doesn't give a quick damage before a player fights. But it isn't a bonus health bar because if you intend to fight, you have to get off otherwise risk getting CCed if your mount dies and getting killed because of that.

> >

> > First stop refering at me as free player because I paid the core game.

> > I dont give tiring excuses. The main issue is that core players and expansion players share common areas. I dont give a kitten about what they do in expansion maps.

> > What I want is equality in common zones: seasonal feasts and wvw. Its like cores were living in harmony and then the invaders of Pof came to abuse vanilla playes with their overpowered stuff, in this case the mounts.

> >

> >

>

> Why don't you complain about Gliders in the same way?

> Why don't you complain about Elite Specs in the "shared" area?

>

> The only way to get the full access to the core game is to buy the expansion these days. Just because you bought it originally, doesn't mean you now have what is considered the full game anymore. Times have changed and you aren't keeping up. That's on you.

>

> I have already given VALID reasons as to why it's fine in seasonal events because they can borrow mounts.

> I have already given a way to make it available for WvW.

>

> "Cores were living in harmony", the game updated and changed, keep up or get left behind. Simple as that.

> It's a buy to play environment.

> Your previous purchase of the game in it's core days has now been made irrelevant because expansion purchases are now how you buy the core game. The core zone purchases for full access to the game BELONGS TO THE EXPANSIONS NOW.

>

> It's been years since you could buy the core game only, if you can't keep up, that's on you.

>

> You are making tiring excuses about why the game shouldn't be moving forward.

> There is a much much smaller population of people who are only playing the core game to this day considering that now buying both expansions is under one banner. It's the best deal possible. If you don't buy it for your own reasons, you get left behind. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

You defend Anet way to "moving forward" ($) as if you were the mother creator of Gw2. Chill.

The greatest loser here is Anet. All my guild friends that came here from other mmos left the game after a year was released because it lacked that sense of progression or incentivation. No matter how you put effort youll always have the same armor as a sunday casual...

I continued playing, trying to find some fun in the "endgame", as me other people.

Letting old players be humiliated, misleaded, and crushed by overpowered specializations and pay-to-win advantages only KILLS the game even more and decreases the population. Old people ies tired to be anihilated and treated like sheet.

The only goals I still have is getting ascended weapons from pvp rewards, but I hate every pvp wvw toxic match I play thanks to Anet.

It seems Anet forgets that old players buy gems too. Great way to treat your customers.

its because in weekend there are lot of casual inepts that doesnt know how to play because they spend the rest of the days off

pof specs should fight against pof players, core vs core. Stop the slaughter anet, this has gone too far

I miss the feeling of being impredcindible in dungeons like in other mmos the healer, the tank... feeling worthy.

In G2w Ive found sometimes that the group can kill a boss without 2 players. This happens commonly in Twilight Arbor... if somebody dies during the path rude players dont wait , and kill the boss without the player who died. This is awful, but the main cause is because nobody is essential ant this sucks.

As a core player turret+rifle engi was my only profession that allowed me to beat some overpowered pay to win specializations. Now they nerfed my only way to have any possibility. just want to win my grandmaster marks and never come back to pvp toxicland.

> @"hellsqueen.3045" said:

> > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > @"Vinceman.4572" said:

> > > > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > > I paid the game in 2012. I tried the PoF expansion in beta and my Pc barely could move the game at 2-3 fps, obviously I'm not gonna buy a expansion i cant play fluidly.

> > > > Thats why core players should have access to basic mounts or rent tickets.

> > > > And yes thye mount feature is a pay to win, because riding one in WvW gives you 2 lives, so a core player has to kill him in mount, and then down again while the core only has one. end of story.

> > > > Its sad that puting Gw2 for free has made that old players that bought the game in beta 2012 are considered and criticized like if they the same newbies that never paid... alt accounts and bots

> > >

> > > You know, 2012 is 8 years away from now. My pc which was substituted by me last week for a newer machine was from that year and I can still run the game on that old one perfectly fine using medium to low graphic settings - all above 30 fps. So, your pc must be older than that or a "cheap", not-up-to-date version if bought later. Note that my pc even was a mediocre one and far from high end in 2012. Don't you think that running an - I would call it - inappropriate pc in 2020 is the mistake or a bad habit by the game developer that actively releases content to the recent day? I started playing early 2013 and that didn't stop me to spend a few bucks for both expansion (actually I bought the elite version) and an additional account for 10€ + 15€. For 7.5 years of playing a game with little pauses this is very little money and in addition I bought some gems as well but not regularly and not much. Of course I'm not happy with the game's situation but man so many years of playing and getting so much for free that I'm in some cents per hour of entertaining. One visit at the cinema or a good eating out with colleagues would cost far more than 3 months of playing GW2.

> > > That's why I call this sad because it's incredible entitlement from your side.

> >

> > Well i dont have the money to buy a new gaming pc to be able to play the Pof expansion, but this isnt the topic.

> > The main discussuion is that mounts provide a BIG advantage that makes this considered pay to win.

> > What makes me angry is that when the game was launched Arenanet promised that this would never be pay to have advantages over other players, that pay items would only provide "cosmetic" benefits.

> > And by Enimerating this promises I've been banned for 3 days in this forum... for telling the truth.

> >

> > It seems Anet dont want new players know the original vision for this game and how they sold it in 2012, the opposite what is now.

> >

>

> 1. If you bought a computer a long time ago, you have to realise that it will become outdated and should save if you wish to stay up to date. If you bought a computer without doing your reasearch on what is good and will last you long enough, then that is on you.

> 2. Mounts are not pay to win advantages. An expansion expands the entire game experience in a pay to play way. It isn't pay to win.

> 3. They haven't broken their promise over pay to win advantages, that comes down to the gem store only and there are no true advantages their only QOL stuff.

>

> Ya'll would be having a cry because they never released anything new or changed up the game.

>

> As I said, the only time it could ever be an advantage is via WvW, and the way they can fix that is just letting them unlock the Warclaw as we all did, but not let them use it outside of WvW if they don't have PoF. Simple.

>

> Basically, if I have a mount in PvE it doesn't do anything to hurt your experience.

> They added mounts for the race achievements. They can add that WvW lets everyone have the Warclaw but only in WvW unless you own PoF and then you can use the Warclaw in PvE (not that you would want to because its the slowest and worst mount anyway otherwise).

>

> You are the kind of person that cripples creative visions for the games by acting like progress ruins things for others.

>

> Buying the expansion is the only way to have the full game these days, if you are an original player and refuse to buy the expac for whatever your reasons, thats on you. It doesn't make it pay to win.

Are you sure mounts arent pay to win?

Halloween events are available for everybody , they do not belong to expansion maps.

You cant have the lunatic festival achievement, because core players dont have a mount (even rented) to participate in the mad king race.

As other mate commented https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/10732/core-halloween-festival-lunatic-racer-achievement-can-only-be-done-with-path-of-fire-mounts.

You dont pay? you cant win

> @"Vinceman.4572" said:

> > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > I paid the game in 2012. I tried the PoF expansion in beta and my Pc barely could move the game at 2-3 fps, obviously I'm not gonna buy a expansion i cant play fluidly.

> > Thats why core players should have access to basic mounts or rent tickets.

> > And yes thye mount feature is a pay to win, because riding one in WvW gives you 2 lives, so a core player has to kill him in mount, and then down again while the core only has one. end of story.

> > Its sad that puting Gw2 for free has made that old players that bought the game in beta 2012 are considered and criticized like if they the same newbies that never paid... alt accounts and bots

>

> You know, 2012 is 8 years away from now. My pc which was substituted by me last week for a newer machine was from that year and I can still run the game on that old one perfectly fine using medium to low graphic settings - all above 30 fps. So, your pc must be older than that or a "cheap", not-up-to-date version if bought later. Note that my pc even was a mediocre one and far from high end in 2012. Don't you think that running an - I would call it - inappropriate pc in 2020 is the mistake or a bad habit by the game developer that actively releases content to the recent day? I started playing early 2013 and that didn't stop me to spend a few bucks for both expansion (actually I bought the elite version) and an additional account for 10€ + 15€. For 7.5 years of playing a game with little pauses this is very little money and in addition I bought some gems as well but not regularly and not much. Of course I'm not happy with the game's situation but man so many years of playing and getting so much for free that I'm in some cents per hour of entertaining. One visit at the cinema or a good eating out with colleagues would cost far more than 3 months of playing GW2.

> That's why I call this sad because it's incredible entitlement from your side.

Well i dont have the money to buy a new gaming pc to be able to play the Pof expansion, but this isnt the topic.

The main discussuion is that mounts provide a BIG advantage that makes this considered pay to win.

What makes me angry is that when the game was launched Arenanet promised that this would never be pay to have advantages over other players, that pay items would only provide "cosmetic" benefits.

And by Enimerating this promises I've been banned for 3 days in this forum... for telling the truth.

It seems Anet dont want new players know the original vision for this game and how they sold it in 2012, the opposite what is now.

> @"kharmin.7683" said:

> What is actually "won" in WvW, with or without the warclaw?

A extra life.

> @"Vinceman.4572" said:

> > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > @"Raknar.4735" said:

> > > > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > > > In WvW, expansion players who ride a monunt have 2 lifes, the one while riding the mount, and then id their health lowers they fall of the mount and their entire helthpool reset. And if he's a necro with deathshrough count 3 lives. A vanilla player just got one life. This in every game is called PAY TO WIN, end of the story.

> > >

> > > Ignoring the fact that you necroed a thread from 2017, your definition would make any MMORPG with expansions or active development P2W, even more so if they increase Lvl cap and add higher equipment tiers.

> >

> > More content (expansions) is not pay to win. Creating advatandges in game mechanics over core is. if overpowered specializations wasnt enough they add the double life advantage by the mounts.

>

> If a player can't be bothered to pay 30 €/$ for an almost 8 year old game he/she is playing regularly in a game mode that is very special and more of a niche I feel very sad for him/her. In all seriousness it's not pay to win. Your attitude is disgusting.

I paid the game in 2012. I tried the PoF expansion in beta and my Pc barely could move the game at 2-3 fps, obviously I'm not gonna buy a expansion i cant play fluidly.

Thats why core players should have access to basic mounts or rent tickets.

And yes thye mount feature is a pay to win, because riding one in WvW gives you 2 lives, so a core player has to kill him in mount, and then down again while the core only has one. end of story.

Its sad that puting Gw2 for free has made that old players that bought the game in beta 2012 are considered and criticized like if they the same newbies that never paid... alt accounts and bots

> @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said:

> So you can afford an internet service provider and a pc, but not 30 euros on xpac? Sounds pure greed to me.

I bought the game in 2012. Then played the beta expansions and my Pc couldnt move that sheet. Im not gonna pay 30euros to play at 2fps.

> @"Raknar.4735" said:

> > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > In WvW, expansion players who ride a monunt have 2 lifes, the one while riding the mount, and then id their health lowers they fall of the mount and their entire helthpool reset. And if he's a necro with deathshrough count 3 lives. A vanilla player just got one life. This in every game is called PAY TO WIN, end of the story.

>

> Ignoring the fact that you necroed a thread from 2017, your definition would make any MMORPG with expansions or active development P2W, even more so if they increase Lvl cap and add higher equipment tiers.

More content (expansions) is not pay to win. Creating advatandges in game mechanics over core is. if overpowered specializations wasnt enough they add the double life advantage by the mounts.

> @"Fueki.4753" said:

> > @"Axelteas.7192" said:

> > I dont know what they find attractive.

> It's small, which is nice.

> It doesn't have a secondary mechanic that's too impactful, which is nice.

> It has significantly less elevation than other maps, which is **great**.

> I can't see a single reason to dislike it.

>

> Skyhammer, on the other hand, has _everything_ that's makes a pvp map disgusting.

Thats because you dont play a trapper class or engi turret. I love to set my turrets in the top of the pillars in skyhammer and see how enemies fall while I attack with rifle from the top. Most fun ever

In WvW, expansion players who ride a monunt have 2 lifes, the one while riding the mount, and then id their health lowers they fall of the mount and their entire helthpool reset. And if he's a necro with deathshrough count 3 lives. A vanilla player just got one life. This in every game is called PAY TO WIN, end of the story.

Djinn sucks and 75% people keeps voting it. I dont know what they find attractive.

Near in the left side has a huge wall to go back to mid. and mid is full of obstacles

the amount of shards is wrong. Now I got 3 master marks, but I cannot buy the weapon because I need 400 shards. No balance in the rewards.