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PvP class tier list [UPDATED]


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> @"Khalisto.5780" said:

> > @"Bazsi.2734" said:

> > > @"Grimjack.8130" said:

> > > S : Thief Ele Engi

> > > A : Necro Rev

> > > B : Ranger Guardian

> > > C : Mesmer

> > > D : Warrior

> > > in no particular order in the tiers for competitive gameplay

> > > @"zyra.7860" said:

> > > Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

> > >

> > > S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev

> > > A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele

> > > B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer

> > > C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

> >

> > What is this, an 1v1 tierlist? Because it has nothing to do with conquest that's for sure.

>

> How come, besides engi everything in S have limited v1 potential, like pretty sure that ele is tempest and thief inst a v1 class at all.

 

Because they’re both irreplaceable in their roles of support and decap/roamer

 

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> @"TrollingDemigod.3041" said:

> > @"zyra.7860" said:

> > > @"Shiyo.3578" said:

> > > > @"zyra.7860" said:

> > > > Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

> > > >

> > > > S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev

> > > > A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele

> > > > B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer

> > > > C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

> > >

> > > lol thief B tier. Guard S tier, my god, no. Tell this to any top10 player/best of the best AT team and see their reaction.

> >

> > Your opinion is not relevant. This list was made together in meeting of current 5 top players, so i guess we dont need your opinion here.

>

> Ho? And who are these mighty top 5 players that put Thief in B tier?

 

Sweet home Alabama

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> @"Grimjack.8130" said:

> S : Thief Ele Engi

> A : Necro Rev

> B : Ranger Guardian

> C : Mesmer

> D : Warrior

> in no particular order in the tiers for competitive gameplay

 

This list gets it right.

 

P.s. To the people who insist on off-meta builds, this does not apply beyond the current best bios being used in most cases.

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> @"TrollingDemigod.3041" said:

> > @"zyra.7860" said:

> > > @"Shiyo.3578" said:

> > > > @"zyra.7860" said:

> > > > Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

> > > >

> > > > S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev

> > > > A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele

> > > > B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer

> > > > C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

> > >

> > > lol thief B tier. Guard S tier, my god, no. Tell this to any top10 player/best of the best AT team and see their reaction.

> >

> > Your opinion is not relevant. This list was made together in meeting of current 5 top players, so i guess we dont need your opinion here.

>

> Ho? And who are these mighty top 5 players that put Thief in B tier?

 

1 of them is a person who calls himself trollingdemigod. I hope I get banned so I can close this chapter once and forall

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I really hope these posts haven't influenced my matches. I keep getting tempests that literally don't heal a single person the entire game, never give auras to anyone, do zero damage, never CC anyone, and instantly die the second they lose respawn invul.

 

Please remove ele from the S tier in all your lists.

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> @"Shiyo.3578" said:

> I really hope these posts haven't influenced my matches. I keep getting tempests that literally don't heal a single person the entire game, never give auras to anyone, do zero damage, never CC anyone, and instantly die the second they lose respawn invul.

>

> Please remove ele from the S tier in all your lists.

 

this is for top players, at/plat 2+ where people at the very least know what their class is supposed to do. Tempest takes some thought process to make the most value off, its much easier to play dps build and spam damage then to have to know when to heal, who to heal, who to CC, when to CC, even something silly as throwing magnetic aura or proj block field properly take more effort then most dps builds do.

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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Shiyo.3578" said:

> > I really hope these posts haven't influenced my matches. I keep getting tempests that literally don't heal a single person the entire game, never give auras to anyone, do zero damage, never CC anyone, and instantly die the second they lose respawn invul.

> >

> > Please remove ele from the S tier in all your lists.

>

> this is for top players, at/plat 2+ where people at the very least know what their class is supposed to do. Tempest takes some thought process to make the most value off, its much easier to play dps build and spam damage then to have to know when to heal, who to heal, who to CC, when to CC, even something silly as throwing magnetic aura or proj block field properly take more effort then most dps builds do.

 

Yes, but some silvers/low golds are going to come in here, see tempest is S tier, go try it out, and randomly get put in my games despite being -200 to -400 rating to me(matchmaking issues) and contribute a total of zero when they could be playing something like reaper/thief/holo and contribute something since those classes require absolutely zero effort for massive reward.

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> @"Shiyo.3578" said:

> Yes, but some silvers/low golds are going to come in here, see tempest is S tier, go try it out, and randomly get put in my games despite being -200 to -400 rating to me(matchmaking issues) and contribute a total of zero when they could be playing something like reaper/thief/holo and contribute something since those classes require absolutely zero effort for massive reward.

 

It's not about rating. They're the same rating as you but it feels like they're lower rated simply because, as the other guy stated, support Tempest is one of the hardest-to-play meta builds. It does seem like I drop 100 rating when I try to play it. I have to play twice as hard as any other build just to feel like I'm actually helping the team.

 

 

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> @"Dave.6819" said:

> > @"Tharan.9085" said:

> > Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

>

> Shortbow 5 and dash carries it. Take those away and it's useless in pvp cuz it cant really be a teamfighter.

 

Not at all, this isn't HoT anymore where everyone has 50% passive DR/invul procs, infinite sustain, yet can still kill thieves in 2 hits. Thief actually does insane damage/pressure and is why it's so overpowered.

 

 

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