Naqam a.6521 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > Hmm > > > > > > > > Hidden Killer (2 sec guarante crit after de-stealth) + Bound + Asassin signet + Runes of Ogre > > > > 14k burst on no toughness vs 12k full toughness > > > > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/lduSAw6 > > > > https://imgur.com/a/0Y6b2Ke > > > > > > > > maybe toughness ,is taking a break :) > > > > or modifiers+ferocity , overcome toughnesss ? Lets call them armor penetration ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you know neither what burst means, nor what full toughness means, then? Spoiler: The heavy golem doesnt have more toughness, it just reflects the different armour classes. > > > > The heavy npc ''wears'' Soldier amulet > > > > It does not. It barely has more toughness than the light one. > > > 2167 armor , with Berseker Amulet , is a no toughness Warrior , equals to : > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Target_Golem_-_Light > > > > Yeah their toughness used to be slightly raised, but I believe its not anymore? Probably the wiki being out of date. > > > > > Please do tell what is burst ? > > Because neither we know > > You go from thread and thread saying that burned Gurdians killed you in 2 sec , unloading all his attacks > > While in the other posters , you are saying that Thief has only does 4k Backstab as a burst > > > > Burn guardian applies all its burn instantly. I dont die instantly, but short of cleansing the stacks Im screwed. Anyway, burst is what you can do in a timeframe short enough for the enemy to not respond. Nope Since launch the golems have the Toughness value , corresponding to different amulets . Because you are new here , i forgive you Burn Guardians does need to use multiply spells in a span of 1,5-2 sec for max normal damage + burn application That is called burst . The Thief can use different combination of attacks in that timeframe , for his burst . Either that is heartseeker or Shadow shot or Daredevil utilities , or Thief Guild edit , how about a deal ? You teach me math , i teach you burst :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNOwen.7132 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > > Hmm > > > > > > > > > > Hidden Killer (2 sec guarante crit after de-stealth) + Bound + Asassin signet + Runes of Ogre > > > > > 14k burst on no toughness vs 12k full toughness > > > > > > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/lduSAw6 > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/0Y6b2Ke > > > > > > > > > > maybe toughness ,is taking a break :) > > > > > or modifiers+ferocity , overcome toughnesss ? Lets call them armor penetration ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you know neither what burst means, nor what full toughness means, then? Spoiler: The heavy golem doesnt have more toughness, it just reflects the different armour classes. > > > > > > The heavy npc ''wears'' Soldier amulet > > > > > > > It does not. It barely has more toughness than the light one. > > > > > 2167 armor , with Berseker Amulet , is a no toughness Warrior , equals to : > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Target_Golem_-_Light > > > > > > > Yeah their toughness used to be slightly raised, but I believe its not anymore? Probably the wiki being out of date. > > > > > > > > Please do tell what is burst ? > > > Because neither we know > > > You go from thread and thread saying that burned Gurdians killed you in 2 sec , unloading all his attacks > > > While in the other posters , you are saying that Thief has only does 4k Backstab as a burst > > > > > > > Burn guardian applies all its burn instantly. I dont die instantly, but short of cleansing the stacks Im screwed. Anyway, burst is what you can do in a timeframe short enough for the enemy to not respond. > > Nope > Since launch the golems have the Toughness value , corresponding to different amulets . You really dont know, huh? Let me remind you, soldiers amulet gives you 900 toughness. The difference between the armour of light and heavy golem is 400. 400<900. So youre wrong, as always. > Because you are new here , i forgive you > Im not, but either you are, or more likely youre a troll. > Burn Guardians does need to use multiply spells in a span of 1,5-2 sec for max normal damage + burn application The 1.5-2 second version is not burst. Its a spike, sure, but thats a different thing. The burst rotation it has is literally instant. As in, 0.0 seconds. > That is called burst . No, it is not. > The Thief can use different combination of attacks in that timeframe , for his burst . See above. > Either that is heartseeker or Shadow shot or Daredevil utilities , or Thief Guild > Nope. Now kindly go and troll somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naqam a.6521 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > > > Hmm > > > > > > > > > > > > Hidden Killer (2 sec guarante crit after de-stealth) + Bound + Asassin signet + Runes of Ogre > > > > > > 14k burst on no toughness vs 12k full toughness > > > > > > > > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/lduSAw6 > > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/0Y6b2Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe toughness ,is taking a break :) > > > > > > or modifiers+ferocity , overcome toughnesss ? Lets call them armor penetration ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you know neither what burst means, nor what full toughness means, then? Spoiler: The heavy golem doesnt have more toughness, it just reflects the different armour classes. > > > > > > > > The heavy npc ''wears'' Soldier amulet > > > > > > > > > > It does not. It barely has more toughness than the light one. > > > > > > > 2167 armor , with Berseker Amulet , is a no toughness Warrior , equals to : > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Target_Golem_-_Light > > > > > > > > > > Yeah their toughness used to be slightly raised, but I believe its not anymore? Probably the wiki being out of date. > > > > > > > > > > > Please do tell what is burst ? > > > > Because neither we know > > > > You go from thread and thread saying that burned Gurdians killed you in 2 sec , unloading all his attacks > > > > While in the other posters , you are saying that Thief has only does 4k Backstab as a burst > > > > > > > > > > Burn guardian applies all its burn instantly. I dont die instantly, but short of cleansing the stacks Im screwed. Anyway, burst is what you can do in a timeframe short enough for the enemy to not respond. > > > > Nope > > Since launch the golems have the Toughness value , corresponding to different amulets . > > You really dont know, huh? Let me remind you, soldiers amulet gives you 900 toughness. The difference between the armour of light and heavy golem is 400. 400<900. So youre wrong, as always. > > > Because you are new here , i forgive you > > > > Im not, but either you are, or more likely youre a troll. > > > Burn Guardians does need to use multiply spells in a span of 1,5-2 sec for max normal damage + burn application > > The 1.5-2 second version is not burst. Its a spike, sure, but thats a different thing. The burst rotation it has is literally instant. As in, 0.0 seconds. > > > That is called burst . > > No, it is not. > > > The Thief can use different combination of attacks in that timeframe , for his burst . > > See above. > > > Either that is heartseeker or Shadow shot or Daredevil utilities , or Thief Guild > > > > Nope. > > Now kindly go and troll somewhere else. Show me a pic with a Warrior + Berseker amulet in the PvP How much armor he has ? I would guess its 2167 , same as Light Golem So you are wrong , as usual :) So we have someone that whine to other posters that burn Guardians does more burst than Thief And when he is questions about their burst , he tells me that Guardians don't burst (because as you said:, ''Burn guardian applies all its burn instantly. I dont die instantly, but short of cleansing the stacks Im screwed'') but spike because it does it in 1,5 sec You are wrong again :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNOwen.7132 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > @"Naqam a.6521" said: > > > > > > > Hmm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hidden Killer (2 sec guarante crit after de-stealth) + Bound + Asassin signet + Runes of Ogre > > > > > > > 14k burst on no toughness vs 12k full toughness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/lduSAw6 > > > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/0Y6b2Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe toughness ,is taking a break :) > > > > > > > or modifiers+ferocity , overcome toughnesss ? Lets call them armor penetration ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you know neither what burst means, nor what full toughness means, then? Spoiler: The heavy golem doesnt have more toughness, it just reflects the different armour classes. > > > > > > > > > > The heavy npc ''wears'' Soldier amulet > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does not. It barely has more toughness than the light one. > > > > > > > > > 2167 armor , with Berseker Amulet , is a no toughness Warrior , equals to : > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Target_Golem_-_Light > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah their toughness used to be slightly raised, but I believe its not anymore? Probably the wiki being out of date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do tell what is burst ? > > > > > Because neither we know > > > > > You go from thread and thread saying that burned Gurdians killed you in 2 sec , unloading all his attacks > > > > > While in the other posters , you are saying that Thief has only does 4k Backstab as a burst > > > > > > > > > > > > > Burn guardian applies all its burn instantly. I dont die instantly, but short of cleansing the stacks Im screwed. Anyway, burst is what you can do in a timeframe short enough for the enemy to not respond. > > > > > > Nope > > > Since launch the golems have the Toughness value , corresponding to different amulets . > > > > You really dont know, huh? Let me remind you, soldiers amulet gives you 900 toughness. The difference between the armour of light and heavy golem is 400. 400<900. So youre wrong, as always. > > > > > Because you are new here , i forgive you > > > > > > > Im not, but either you are, or more likely youre a troll. > > > > > Burn Guardians does need to use multiply spells in a span of 1,5-2 sec for max normal damage + burn application > > > > The 1.5-2 second version is not burst. Its a spike, sure, but thats a different thing. The burst rotation it has is literally instant. As in, 0.0 seconds. > > > > > That is called burst . > > > > No, it is not. > > > > > The Thief can use different combination of attacks in that timeframe , for his burst . > > > > See above. > > > > > Either that is heartseeker or Shadow shot or Daredevil utilities , or Thief Guild > > > > > > > Nope. > > > > Now kindly go and troll somewhere else. > > Show me a pic with a Warrior + Berseker amulet in the PvP > How much armor he has ? > I would guess its 2167 , same as Light Golem > So you are wrong , as usual :) > I never said that wasnt true? I just pointed out that your idea of "the heavy golem represents soldiers amulet" is completely 100% wrong. Which it of course is proven to be wrong. Youre the one who is wrong. > So we have someone that whine to other posters that burn Guardians does more burst than Thief > And when he is questions about their burst , he tells me that Guardians don't burst > (because as you said:, ''Burn guardian applies all its burn instantly. I dont die instantly, but short of cleansing the stacks Im screwed'') > but spike because it does it in 1,5 sec > You are wrong again :) Except Burn Guardian applies enough burn to kill you in 0.0 seconds. Thats burst. Their "spike" actually takes a lot more than 1.5 seconds, since the flame sword thingie isnt that fast. Besides, burn guardian isnt the only guardian that bursts harder. Youre wrong again, but youre also clearly a troll, so I will not respond to you anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghos.1326 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 > @"Broady.2358" said: > Imagine thinking that this video which is full of memes should be taken seriously or is a true reflection of how to play Thief... > Seems I should have included a disclaimer saying this a is parody of the attitude of players who think Thief is bad. If you think Thief needs higher damage in order to succeed, you're playing it wrong. > Those judging my knowledge of the game and PMing me in game asking my rank in order to inflate your ego on the forums just shows your maturity levels. > > For those enjoyed the video and understood the irony, I'm happy and intend to do some more overly edited shenanigans covering "broken builds"... *Looks at Grenade Holosmith" Us intellectuals appreciate your humor, keep up the good work brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchme.1097 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Rifle deadeye is still trash, I get flamed in fractals for underperforming despite spamming triple shot whenever I can and it has zero cleave damage or boons to share so I get the hate in raids as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 daredevil is most broken op class .. seriously theres so little you can do against it.. maybe holo is stronger.. but meh.. fighting holo is way easier than fighting daredevil.. their mobility their burst damage and none stop stealh is just broken .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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