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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > @"Filip.7463" said: > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > @"Filip.7463" said: > > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > @"Filip.7463" said: > > > > > > Bot is better than average player. Get better, you wont meet them in plat (Maybe you stop meeting them even in g2-3) > > > > > > > > > > wrong. they are in plat aswell ! > > > > > > > > Maybe on NA servers, never met one on EU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im in EU and im telling you they go all the way to plat . or idk if they are actually plat.. but if you are plat you still gonna see bots and definitely tons of hackers. > > > > then you have never been plat, here is no bots and i have never seen a hacker even if i do 500+ matches a season ? i saw some teleporters in local arena, but never in ranked match. Idk how teleporting would help then win a match. > > > > you dont know how instantly teleporting from one node to another could help you win the game? > I personally saw several necros TP hacking and I was suspicious of couple of thiefs but you thief you can never really tell with them. > 2-3 seasons I go I played with the same bot 3 games in a row ( plat 2 ) > And tbh its not too hard to tp hack, you can stealth as thief and tp anywhere you want and nobody can really suspect you, just run shadowportal and nobody will ever know. > Or be OOC,as anything with stealth, stealth tp wherever the kitten you want and nobody will know. > exactly that.. but i dont even bother to answer that other person.. hes either just blind or jsut bsing

> @"Filip.7463" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"Filip.7463" said: > > > Bot is better than average player. Get better, you wont meet them in plat (Maybe you stop meeting them even in g2-3) > > > > wrong. they are in plat aswell ! > > Maybe on NA servers, never met one on EU > > im in EU and im telling you they go all the way to plat . or idk if they are actually plat.. but if you are plat you still gonna see bots and definitely tons of hackers.

> @"Filip.7463" said: > Bot is better than average player. Get better, you wont meet them in plat (Maybe you stop meeting them even in g2-3) wrong. they are in plat aswell !

with how things are ... i just doubt Anet are going to do anything.. they dont seem like they want nor they care about pvp.. perhaps its time to quit gw2 or take unlimited pause untill they decide to fix pvp and get rid of the hackers/bots.. there isnt even 1 game anymore where you wont see a bot or hacker.. there is just no point in playing anymore.. this is no longer pvp based of skills or place where you can improve and practice.. this is pure rng about the bots are on your side or enemy team and if you fight against hacker or not.. i will not be buying the upcoming expansion.. as i dont think Anet deserve my money and support anymore.. the game is simply dead

no... thois is annoying they should even delete the one that exist

> @"darren.1064" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"darren.1064" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"darren.1064" said: > > > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > > @"lare.5129" said: > > > > > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > > > your class is already over peforming.. > > > > > > > I have all clases, fo fast use some of them have twice, about that class now you talk? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >if you dont enjoy it go play another class.. > > > > > > > yes, for each type and style I have my own class > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thief should > > > > > > > personal for me is no matter what class should we ask boost, and we need pvp class anyway. By name it should be thief, I check it - no, it not op. Sometimes it fun, but no op. So we need good stealth, good dps (in my celestial it was totaly craps, especial if I try kill weaver wiht same amulet..,) and myt some stats boost fro gems .. > > > > > > > > > > > > dont play celestial.. well celestial is gone either way.. and nope.. thief shouldnt be able to kill a weaver in 1v1 ^^ > > > > > > > > > > I sure loved that thread when somebody else said that you're new and don't have any idea how to really play PvP and you couldn't reply. That should be our default reply to you newbie. > > > > > > > > i replayed unless the guy wasnt worth my replay such as you.. lets make it clear .. the balance changes constantly.. 2 years ago balance was entirely differnet .. infact why go this far.. on feb before the update balance was entirely different,.. i dont give a kitten how long you been in game.. you stayed stuck in the past ... im here on the present and future.. you seem to not know how to pvp your self.. despite how long you been in game.. and thats my prof that being new /old to game doesnt matter.. its either you have what needed or you dont.. you certainly dont.. and even if you somehow do.. your arrogance makes you very little to care about > > > > > > Imagine being here in the present and still asking how to play your class and fight others on forums lmfao. Just admit it little buddy, you aren't that good yet. > > > > never asked how to play my class. im doing fine ty ^^ and even if i would ask that wouldnt be you.. so give your big fake ego a glass of cold water .. and some cubes of ice.. it doesnt do you good or grace.. it only make you look.. well.. not so smart and not a grown up... arguing with kids is stressful > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/102842/help-understanding-tactic-traitline#latest > Created April 15, 2020 > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/102359/help-understanding-dual-wield-trait-pls#latest > Created April 12, 2020 > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/89025/advice-with-class-newplayer#latest > Created November 3rd, 2019! Just one year ago! > > Do I need to continue? yoiu are out of date :D this is old ^^ i take no shame in asking people opinon first of all .. so long they aint kids like you.. and well these are old :D been a long while since then zzzz

> @"stobes.9254" said: > I really wish Anet would break the silence on this. Id rather them tell us that PvP isnt making them any money, therefore they dont care about fixing it than have them just sweep it under the rug. instead they delete our posts and give us warning for having the courage to hint that they are not handing the situaiton very well.. if im honest im even going to be warned for what i just said here.. this is how bad the situation is.. banning active fair players who complain about cheating and seek fair enjoyable gameplay instead of banning cheaters.. oh well..

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > are there bots in plat yet? that would be the ultimate gaem ded moment. there are .,., and yes the game is pretty much dead ! its unplayable.. yesterday i went to do some ranked games after a while not playing. .jsut to try out their new "balance" guess what? me and my theam got constantly crashed when fighting someone.. enemy team 0 crash trying it again.. and yet again we get crashed.. but only 1 team.. a DC/Crash hack? perhaps.. or DH can crash people with bug but then why didnt his team crash and only our team? also.. earlier at the game there was 0 crash or issues and we did well.. its only then that all of us 1 after another started to crash and be kicked from game.. relog and crash again untill game was over...

> @"darren.1064" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"darren.1064" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"lare.5129" said: > > > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > your class is already over peforming.. > > > > > I have all clases, fo fast use some of them have twice, about that class now you talk? > > > > > > > > > > >if you dont enjoy it go play another class.. > > > > > yes, for each type and style I have my own class > > > > > > > > > > > thief should > > > > > personal for me is no matter what class should we ask boost, and we need pvp class anyway. By name it should be thief, I check it - no, it not op. Sometimes it fun, but no op. So we need good stealth, good dps (in my celestial it was totaly craps, especial if I try kill weaver wiht same amulet..,) and myt some stats boost fro gems .. > > > > > > > > dont play celestial.. well celestial is gone either way.. and nope.. thief shouldnt be able to kill a weaver in 1v1 ^^ > > > > > > I sure loved that thread when somebody else said that you're new and don't have any idea how to really play PvP and you couldn't reply. That should be our default reply to you newbie. > > > > i replayed unless the guy wasnt worth my replay such as you.. lets make it clear .. the balance changes constantly.. 2 years ago balance was entirely differnet .. infact why go this far.. on feb before the update balance was entirely different,.. i dont give a kitten how long you been in game.. you stayed stuck in the past ... im here on the present and future.. you seem to not know how to pvp your self.. despite how long you been in game.. and thats my prof that being new /old to game doesnt matter.. its either you have what needed or you dont.. you certainly dont.. and even if you somehow do.. your arrogance makes you very little to care about > > Imagine being here in the present and still asking how to play your class and fight others on forums lmfao. Just admit it little buddy, you aren't that good yet. never asked how to play my class. im doing fine ty ^^ and even if i would ask that wouldnt be you.. so give your big fake ego a glass of cold water .. and some cubes of ice.. it doesnt do you good or grace.. it only make you look.. well.. not so smart and not a grown up... arguing with kids is stressful

> @"darren.1064" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"lare.5129" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > your class is already over peforming.. > > > I have all clases, fo fast use some of them have twice, about that class now you talk? > > > > > > >if you dont enjoy it go play another class.. > > > yes, for each type and style I have my own class > > > > > > > thief should > > > personal for me is no matter what class should we ask boost, and we need pvp class anyway. By name it should be thief, I check it - no, it not op. Sometimes it fun, but no op. So we need good stealth, good dps (in my celestial it was totaly craps, especial if I try kill weaver wiht same amulet..,) and myt some stats boost fro gems .. > > > > dont play celestial.. well celestial is gone either way.. and nope.. thief shouldnt be able to kill a weaver in 1v1 ^^ > > I sure loved that thread when somebody else said that you're new and don't have any idea how to really play PvP and you couldn't reply. That should be our default reply to you newbie. i replayed unless the guy wasnt worth my replay such as you.. lets make it clear .. the balance changes constantly.. 2 years ago balance was entirely differnet .. infact why go this far.. on feb before the update balance was entirely different,.. i dont give a shit how long you been in game.. you stayed stuck in the past ... im here on the present and future.. you seem to not know how to pvp your self.. despite how long you been in game.. and thats my prof that being new /old to game doesnt matter.. its either you have what needed or you dont.. you certainly dont.. and even if you somehow do.. your arrogance makes you very little to care about

> @"Exile.8160" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > if im honest this patch as a whole is even a buff for daredevil because its counter classes took a bigger hit > > > > > > Dragonhunter took literally no hit. > > > > > > > > > > and thats regretful ... gurdian werent not nerfed in pvp.. and its sad... burn DH with its traps is getitng on my nerve.. . > > All their other builds have been turn useless, radien power suck, FB sucks, anything core sucks, power DH sucks. Just nerfing burn dh will cause a wholw class to be useless. > > I will gladly take a nerf to guard burn if they buff other part of them but we all know anet wont do it, so yeah no nerf for dh and learn to out play it. and this is exactly what i would expect.. because having all of the other builds for the class trash unplayable and 1 of them crazy strong doing 25 stacks of burning instnatly is the most unhealthy situation... and making the entire class bad is also unhealthy ! same as nerfing warrior heal without a proper buff to warrior as duelist and fighter again.. is bad move.. while nerfing healing warrior was right.. but this is Anet for us..

honestly... i sort of dont understand people saying reaper need nerf... if im fair.. reaper already sort of struggle to find its place in the current meta and it require support to even be able to do anything.. burst classes normally target reaper right away and the reaper is just free food before it build up life force . it has 0 block or frame rate .. no evades and out of shroud low mobility .. life force regen is now meh? it has very low condi clean.. really damage is only thing that reaper has and even for that he has to work and build up life force take that and reaper is gone. lich form? go ahead nerf it but i think its fairly bad and easily countered skill already i dont even use it i prefer chilled to the bone elite.. simply because both tempest/mesmer / warrior/ and who does have projectile reflect and then you are dead if you attack.. lich form last 10 seconds and really thief will stealth/warrior will block/tempest/mester will reflect it.. and others will walk way .. dont try face tank it and you will be fine.. herald? you really want to nerf rev further? power herald is only a +1 and frankly thief still does that better.. herald might have abit of burst but after its burst it has nothing much to continue do damage.. mobility? only to engage as it require target and at a very very high cost.. it cant even get away from you after he oes his burst that isnt even easy to land .. if you survive.. all herald does now days are searching for low HP playesa dna try finish them off .. they cant team fight and they cant 1v1 .. sorry but i think herald is fine.. very balanced in my opinion ! i agree with the rest.. DH need a nerf that burn is sick and trapper rune stealth is just too much.. weaver infact ele in general core/weaver / temest as damage classes need a buff ! mesmers .. i agree i would love to see mesmer not mirage back in pvp.. they are just not good enough right now warrior.. sad days for warrior.. really.. Anet started a diraction on feb update promised to finish and never got back at it.. left classes like warrior with all their utility skills " physical skills' doing 0 damage and tons of werapon skills also doing no damage.

> @"lare.5129" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > dont play celestial.. well celestial is gone either way.. > yes, amulet removed. One more nerf for my thief > > >thief shouldnt be able to kill a weaver in 1v1 ^^ > it ok for me, but we need rename thief and weaver to other names if it is. > i mean you are talking about your build specific that is a build that in first place not in the meta.. most thieves i think using berzeker right now? and they are quite bursty .. you cant expect to burst with celestial like with zeker. anyways i think thieves are more than fine they are top + 1 role and to be fair.. with renegade being completely kicked out of the meta after this patch i think thieves are even in a better spot right now than before.. if im honest i frankly dont even care anymore because the pvp in this game is fairly dead at the moment anwyay. the meta is way too small for being fan and the gap between classes is way too large... they started a revamping to pvp balance in feb patch which was very general and ofc didnt hit the spot and then they kinda left.. it .. warrior got his entire utility skills doing 0 damage since then right.. physical skills are apparently not so physical anymore forcing warrior to play support .. stability reduced heavily and cc not removed.. the balance lets face it is awful the skill discription isnt even trust worthy if you look at skills like reaper 5. while the skill is fine the way it is and so is reaper.. the skill says that its a finishing skills dealing increased damage the lower the HP ... while infact ever since the feb patch the skill doesnt even do damage.. to me.. this entire game pvp start to look like an unfinished private server made by 1 software programer game.. that skills doesnt even do what they claim to do.. clearly it doesnt bother Anet and they dont even care to change the text of the skill for pvp mode.. they just let you guess what the skill actually do... the entire balance is a joke... with burn DH burst more than full power burst class.. or even burst higher than its own power version.. there are basically 2 support available for the game mode and they are slowly being pushed out who knows why.. instead of making mesmers / thieves heral able to support aswell they try to remove the tempest/warrior sup .. the game mode is full of bots.. and nothing is being done against .. and not to mention hackers... today even a renegade got a thief class mobility simply cause people use fly/teleport hack.. DH uses CD hack and spam traps.. and what not.. balance is bad but its the last problem this game competitive mode has.. and yet look at us spending hours and hours every day arguing in a forum of a company that doesnt even care.. even this small balance patch are jsut some candies to tell us they think of us alittle.. this an update done on 1 foot ... "how to balance classes using celestial amu" " ohh that easy lets delete the amu' "how do we deal with renegade?" "easy we destroy renegade no more problem there right?" slowly update after update there are even less classes to play with in pvp.. if you want to play " competitive" you have less than an handful of builds not even classes but builds to play.. and even then you need to hope you are not fighting an hacker.. so honestly.. meh its all start to be whatever.. for me this feels like a good time to take a pause from gw2 and comeback maybe 1 day when Anet realize Pvp is still important to some people.. gosh even wvw.. is suffering from ahckers..

> @"lare.5129" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > your class is already over peforming.. > I have all clases, fo fast use some of them have twice, about that class now you talk? > > >if you dont enjoy it go play another class.. > yes, for each type and style I have my own class > > > thief should > personal for me is no matter what class should we ask boost, and we need pvp class anyway. By name it should be thief, I check it - no, it not op. Sometimes it fun, but no op. So we need good stealth, good dps (in my celestial it was totaly craps, especial if I try kill weaver wiht same amulet..,) and myt some stats boost fro gems .. dont play celestial.. well celestial is gone either way.. and nope.. thief shouldnt be able to kill a weaver in 1v1 ^^

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > @"Quadox.7834" said: > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > @"lare.5129" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Anomaly.7612" said: > > > > > > > > > Omg it makes me so happy you posted a Savix video. Best WoW PvP content creator out there. For real though, if Thief was anything like a sub rogue that has multiple HARD CC's like back to back basi venoms (cheap shot from stealth), a 5 second stun (kidney shot), a LONG incapacitate (blind), and if Shadow shot had the damage and spammability of Shadowstrike you'd have people coming to the forums with pages of signatures and petitions to get the class completely removed from the game lol. > > > > > > > > more funnest was when I take here first time thief and try find where "perma stealth" ... where I can press one button and be all time in stealth as in other normal games.. > > > > > > > > after few weeks search I found that "perma stealth" they call non stop some skill/blast rotation with specific trait selection that cut other things .. I say "WUT????" > > > > > > > > "perma stealth" sound like mockery.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah for some reason thief haters act like they'd prefer permastealth at Press of a button like I'm most mmo's where ur revealed in combat and can't re-stealth till out of combat. I'm sure a lot of thief players would consider that a upgrade considering u can move around as u wish under no time constraints, dont have to use ur global resource to up keep stealth and can position for ganks and travel to any cap or location in wvw undetected lol, all for the price of having to teleport to disengage instead of stealthing to do so. I say bring it on and watch all the players that hate on thief ask for it to be reverted as atleast the current way thief has to use its global resource to keep stealth up. As I've said before gw2 pvp community has no clue what they actually want. > > > > > > > > > > > > give 3 citations of where gw2 community says "it" wants permastealth out of combat? > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh so u want stealth just removed? I mean what real use is few secs of stealth out of combat? Any other iterations would be useless which is why eso, WoW etc have perma stealth outa combat but also usually have a means to stealth in combat like shedding dots and vanishing of ur rogue in WoW or in eso. > > > > > U say thiefs want stealth to be op but u many clearly want it to be removed or useless, that's a better mentality because.... > > > > > > > > the thing is.. you guys abuse stealth and you dont even realize how bad stealth is for the game.. there isnt even 1 game left aside from gw2 with a 100% stealth > > > > on all games right now.. stalth doesnt work with nearby enemies.. even LoL realized how kitten stealth system is.. and stealth works from a certain distance from enemy and doesnt let you do whatever you want.. > > > > > > > > as stealth is right now.. yes its better be removed from the game beause it doesnt function in a healthy way .. > > > > its wayyyyyyyy too frustrating to play against.. and that goes aswell for kitten deadeye in WvW.. that shoot from range disppaer in steal shoot again stealth again.. useless class that has no real room in orgnized groups and yet is abble to make the roaming very toxic .. so it isnt healthy nor good.. > > > > and that goes for pvp aswell with stupid daredevil.. no class should ever be able to stealth and stealth and stealth.. > > > > same as we dont have 2 seconds cd stuns/break stuns.. > > > > stealth is the most broken op effect in the game and for some idiotic reason it is completely spamable by daredevil.. > > > > there are very little useful/availkable reveal skills in the game and there is very little ways to deal with stealth.. thief can heal in stealth and do what ever he want in stealth. > > > > its very hard regardless to stun a thief and and often even if you do cc him its not before he clicked on his stealth and he will be in stealth.. > > > > you guys can claim whatever you want and say there are no thieves in ranked pvp.. but i done 3 games yesterday and in 3 of them there were like 3 thieves in each team .. > > > > this should end > > > > > > I play warrior not thief if I log on, mostly to remind myself why I dont log on much :) > > > > idk how you can compare warrior with thief .. only "good" warrior build atm is a support.. while im not going to say there are not good warriors cause there are some dedicated warriors who somehow manage to still play warriors.. you cant compare them with the dedicated thieves... i mean ill say again we all have different opinions you say warrior is strong and thief is weak i say oppsite warrior is weak and need buffing thieve is too strong and need nerfing > > > > I dont compare them, why would I as their 2 completely different classes. I mained thief for 5 years but ended up enjoying warrior more over last couple yrs atleast until feb patch completely gutted warrior. Now log on here and there and do couple matches on warrior for kicks and log off for some GoT or WoW. > That all said even on war I still dont find thieves much of a issue to fight compared to most of the roster feb patch indeed gutted warrior with cc = 0 damage. that said warrior is still either support or duelist in 1v1 thief shouldnt be able to fight them.. it is what it is. thief is the best by far the best +1 role roamer .. it was never meant to 1v1 a duelist or a side node which side node role was basically created as solution to handle daredevils. warrior got fair amount of reveal both as support and as spell breaker fighter.. why? because support got low cd shout skill that reveal and spell breaker got trait that chain and reveal so the thief cant run or stealth it might exlain why you dont have issue on warrior.. that is not saying their stealth isnt an issue in general and to most classes !

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"Quadox.7834" said: > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > @"lare.5129" said: > > > > > > > @"Anomaly.7612" said: > > > > > > > Omg it makes me so happy you posted a Savix video. Best WoW PvP content creator out there. For real though, if Thief was anything like a sub rogue that has multiple HARD CC's like back to back basi venoms (cheap shot from stealth), a 5 second stun (kidney shot), a LONG incapacitate (blind), and if Shadow shot had the damage and spammability of Shadowstrike you'd have people coming to the forums with pages of signatures and petitions to get the class completely removed from the game lol. > > > > > > more funnest was when I take here first time thief and try find where "perma stealth" ... where I can press one button and be all time in stealth as in other normal games.. > > > > > > after few weeks search I found that "perma stealth" they call non stop some skill/blast rotation with specific trait selection that cut other things .. I say "WUT????" > > > > > > "perma stealth" sound like mockery.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah for some reason thief haters act like they'd prefer permastealth at Press of a button like I'm most mmo's where ur revealed in combat and can't re-stealth till out of combat. I'm sure a lot of thief players would consider that a upgrade considering u can move around as u wish under no time constraints, dont have to use ur global resource to up keep stealth and can position for ganks and travel to any cap or location in wvw undetected lol, all for the price of having to teleport to disengage instead of stealthing to do so. I say bring it on and watch all the players that hate on thief ask for it to be reverted as atleast the current way thief has to use its global resource to keep stealth up. As I've said before gw2 pvp community has no clue what they actually want. > > > > > > > > give 3 citations of where gw2 community says "it" wants permastealth out of combat? > > > > > > Ahhh so u want stealth just removed? I mean what real use is few secs of stealth out of combat? Any other iterations would be useless which is why eso, WoW etc have perma stealth outa combat but also usually have a means to stealth in combat like shedding dots and vanishing of ur rogue in WoW or in eso. > > > U say thiefs want stealth to be op but u many clearly want it to be removed or useless, that's a better mentality because.... > > > > the thing is.. you guys abuse stealth and you dont even realize how bad stealth is for the game.. there isnt even 1 game left aside from gw2 with a 100% stealth > > on all games right now.. stalth doesnt work with nearby enemies.. even LoL realized how kitten stealth system is.. and stealth works from a certain distance from enemy and doesnt let you do whatever you want.. > > > > as stealth is right now.. yes its better be removed from the game beause it doesnt function in a healthy way .. > > its wayyyyyyyy too frustrating to play against.. and that goes aswell for kitten deadeye in WvW.. that shoot from range disppaer in steal shoot again stealth again.. useless class that has no real room in orgnized groups and yet is abble to make the roaming very toxic .. so it isnt healthy nor good.. > > and that goes for pvp aswell with stupid daredevil.. no class should ever be able to stealth and stealth and stealth.. > > same as we dont have 2 seconds cd stuns/break stuns.. > > stealth is the most broken op effect in the game and for some idiotic reason it is completely spamable by daredevil.. > > there are very little useful/availkable reveal skills in the game and there is very little ways to deal with stealth.. thief can heal in stealth and do what ever he want in stealth. > > its very hard regardless to stun a thief and and often even if you do cc him its not before he clicked on his stealth and he will be in stealth.. > > you guys can claim whatever you want and say there are no thieves in ranked pvp.. but i done 3 games yesterday and in 3 of them there were like 3 thieves in each team .. > > this should end > > I play warrior not thief if I log on, mostly to remind myself why I dont log on much :) idk how you can compare warrior with thief .. only "good" warrior build atm is a support.. while im not going to say there are not good warriors cause there are some dedicated warriors who somehow manage to still play warriors.. you cant compare them with the dedicated thieves... i mean ill say again we all have different opinions you say warrior is strong and thief is weak i say oppsite warrior is weak and need buffing thieve is too strong and need nerfing

> @"lare.5129" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > simply unrealistic.. that want to be god.. simple asthat.. > this is gw2. Here evrything is real if you have target. I am already fractal god, wvw god will be soon, but in spvp not exist some point to stack .. ofc I have leg pvp backpack, but I also need some boost for any class to make game more fun. your class is already over peforming.. if you dont enjoy it go play another class.. thief should be further nerfed if anything

> @"lare.5129" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > the thing is.. you guys abuse stealth > abuse - is that we need. This is main concept of any good mmo game: abuse, dominate, get fun and relax. So if someone get fun from it - it is great. As for me - the stelth that we have now - totally fail, it non stop skill press .. I hate it. As for me we need press one button, once, and be in stealth ALL time .. > > > and you dont even realize how bad stealth is for the game.. > what is bad and good everyone have different opinion. Is challenge is good thing? Is some unpredictable things can get fun ? > > > isnt even 1 game left aside from gw2 with a 100% stealth > yes. On normal game if you do everything properly with some class and build another class have 0 chance to survive. But in gw2 I see fail we still not have pvp dominator .. > We need boost thief to make some as rogue. > > > its wayyyyyyyy too frustrating to play against.. and that goes aswell for kitten deadeye in WvW.. > I try that biuld. It trahs and kitten. We need boost that biuld more. It works only in very very skilled hands. > > > abble to make the roaming very toxic > if someone can do it great. Because it is target of roaming. Don't like - take ptv armor and run with blob on Friday's. > > > and that goes for pvp aswell with stupid daredevil.. no class should ever be able to stealth and stealth and stealth.. > so we shoudl pround that we have it .. but it not true. We not have it yet. If something broke you rotation or you need time eat cooke and drink little tea stealth is gone > > > same as we dont have 2 seconds cd stuns/break stuns.. > we need 10-15 second cd stun spam thief. I am no joke. Or rename thief to "glass target" > > > you guys can claim whatever you want and say there are no thieves in ranked pvp.. > If I join as engineer, or any char except thief or mesmer I am other not have thief in any team. If I join as thief - I have one thief in opposite team. This is ok. > > >but i done 3 games yesterday and in 3 of them there were like 3 thieves in each team .. > don't see anything bad if 5 thief vs 5 thief .. Same count on each team ? no problem at all. I have insta kick thief from normal fractal party and no one cry .. So some class diversity for content is good thing. > > > this should end > yes, we need boost. > simply unrealistic.. that want to be god.. simple asthat..

> @"Liewec.2896" said: > so currently we have a no-life noob flying around in unranked 2 shotting everyone > howcome there is no option to report for hacking? > botting? match manipulation? there is no option for cheat/hack. > also how long are we supposed to wait before he gets banned, he's been here for a few hours!!!! why would there be? almost everyone today is a hacker.. from the look at the things.. hacking is allowed and encouraged by Anet.. why do you expect them to have a report for hacking when they see no problem with hacking? we have report option for botting.. how many times have you reported the exact same bot? about a milion times? do you continue to see that bot in games? you do.. so having a report for hacking would;ve changed anything? probablynot.. Anet dont really care about competitive modes.. and they show it in every way possible..

> @"avey.4201" said: > People call Dragon Hunter F2P.... i think they confuse with free to win :D hahaha put traps active burn and boom 25 stacks of burn for whole team gg :D

maybe its time to completely rework thief ! simple as that.. .. im sorry but thief can not continue abuse stealth and dominate the ranked pvp.. if thief community want bigger numbers so much! maybe its time to rework their class! or ask them.. they speak so much of reaper.. as if its a god ! why dont they just play reaper? i mean classes are being nerfed and buffed in and out the metta.. for now thief is the top tier in the meta for ever.. but if they are not happy with it.. they should try reaper.. and then maybe they understad how op thief is! they forget their first 2 casts of auto attack thief dagger are fking no cast time.. 3rd one is 1/4 second.. and the damage isnt even low on that! the rest of the skills does really good damage considering they blind /daze and what not.. thief does "lower line of damage" meh maybe not low enough.. for how fast they can pull that damage.. and then they just stealth and redo that burst rotation but we all know that thief community want thief to be god... they dont want to be good.. they want a game master command "kill all" frankly untill now.. thief had better mobility than hacker using teleport hacks.. cmon this is a joke... they want higher numbers? sure they should give up their retarded stealth lets rework thief entirely give it long cd stealth like emergency skill like a stun break not a fking 2 seconds cd

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Quadox.7834" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"lare.5129" said: > > > > > @"Anomaly.7612" said: > > > > > Omg it makes me so happy you posted a Savix video. Best WoW PvP content creator out there. For real though, if Thief was anything like a sub rogue that has multiple HARD CC's like back to back basi venoms (cheap shot from stealth), a 5 second stun (kidney shot), a LONG incapacitate (blind), and if Shadow shot had the damage and spammability of Shadowstrike you'd have people coming to the forums with pages of signatures and petitions to get the class completely removed from the game lol. > > > > more funnest was when I take here first time thief and try find where "perma stealth" ... where I can press one button and be all time in stealth as in other normal games.. > > > > after few weeks search I found that "perma stealth" they call non stop some skill/blast rotation with specific trait selection that cut other things .. I say "WUT????" > > > > "perma stealth" sound like mockery.. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah for some reason thief haters act like they'd prefer permastealth at Press of a button like I'm most mmo's where ur revealed in combat and can't re-stealth till out of combat. I'm sure a lot of thief players would consider that a upgrade considering u can move around as u wish under no time constraints, dont have to use ur global resource to up keep stealth and can position for ganks and travel to any cap or location in wvw undetected lol, all for the price of having to teleport to disengage instead of stealthing to do so. I say bring it on and watch all the players that hate on thief ask for it to be reverted as atleast the current way thief has to use its global resource to keep stealth up. As I've said before gw2 pvp community has no clue what they actually want. > > > > give 3 citations of where gw2 community says "it" wants permastealth out of combat? > > Ahhh so u want stealth just removed? I mean what real use is few secs of stealth out of combat? Any other iterations would be useless which is why eso, WoW etc have perma stealth outa combat but also usually have a means to stealth in combat like shedding dots and vanishing of ur rogue in WoW or in eso. > U say thiefs want stealth to be op but u many clearly want it to be removed or useless, that's a better mentality because.... the thing is.. you guys abuse stealth and you dont even realize how bad stealth is for the game.. there isnt even 1 game left aside from gw2 with a 100% stealth on all games right now.. stalth doesnt work with nearby enemies.. even LoL realized how retarded stealth system is.. and stealth works from a certain distance from enemy and doesnt let you do whatever you want.. as stealth is right now.. yes its better be removed from the game beause it doesnt function in a healthy way .. its wayyyyyyyy too frustrating to play against.. and that goes aswell for retarded deadeye in WvW.. that shoot from range disppaer in steal shoot again stealth again.. useless class that has no real room in orgnized groups and yet is abble to make the roaming very toxic .. so it isnt healthy nor good.. and that goes for pvp aswell with stupid daredevil.. no class should ever be able to stealth and stealth and stealth.. same as we dont have 2 seconds cd stuns/break stuns.. stealth is the most broken op effect in the game and for some idiotic reason it is completely spamable by daredevil.. there are very little useful/availkable reveal skills in the game and there is very little ways to deal with stealth.. thief can heal in stealth and do what ever he want in stealth. its very hard regardless to stun a thief and and often even if you do cc him its not before he clicked on his stealth and he will be in stealth.. you guys can claim whatever you want and say there are no thieves in ranked pvp.. but i done 3 games yesterday and in 3 of them there were like 3 thieves in each team .. this should end

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"Styros.8931" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"Styros.8931" said: > > > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > > > > > > right now as i said thief is by far the most played class in ranked pvp.. and this by its self says everything about current state of thief and that it over preform > > > > > > ! if you want the sad truth thief should be nerfed further and stealth should be reworked the reason it doesnt happen.. is because Anet are scared of the thief cry baby community .. like you that think thief needs to be god ! if you wanna be god... just do what other peple do now days and use hacks.. zzz > > > > > > > > > > if thief is best ranked class why i can't see any thief in ranked pvp ? Literally every 3-10 matchs I can see atleast 1 thief in 1 team but boiz thief is op boiz > > > > > > > > you dont see them cause they abuse stealth.. :P there are daredevil in every game > > > > > > do i need screenshot my every single game right now to show 0 thiefs every game? Sadly we don't have match history so I can't show you 0 thiefs every game > > > > well.. the only situation you wouldnt have thieves is playing not prime time and having game full of bots.. apparently the bots dont play thief .. > > The reason for that is thiefs defenses are all active requiring good timing and knowledge of ur opponents class to predict and evade their attacks. On top blinds, interrupts and other such skills have to be used on dp to have a chance in a fight as well as good positioning if using s/d or such. A bot thief would be useless and it's far easier to program a class/spec with higher hp/armor that has barriers, invulnerability at a press of a button all while spamming weapon skills that do decent damage. But those defensive type skills are far more skillful right, so skillfull bots can some what utilize them :) > But yes teefs mobility,evades and stealth thru combo fields are OP emiright? claiming the class require timing and is bad for bot to play it doesnt mean the class is weak ^^ it means that you claim the class require skills.. . ok.. so? weaver require skills .. and it was still nerfed a ton. to be good at Umm? who knows.. someone who stick to a class eventually master it.. and how thief would be useless on bots because it require some skills and timing isnt a good argument to say thief isnt strong ! i never saw heal breaker used by bot.. or support tempest .. does it mean they are bad classes? warrior just got all of his heal skills halved..

> @"Styros.8931" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"Styros.8931" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"Styros.8931" said: > > > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > > > > > > right now as i said thief is by far the most played class in ranked pvp.. and this by its self says everything about current state of thief and that it over preform > > > > > > ! if you want the sad truth thief should be nerfed further and stealth should be reworked the reason it doesnt happen.. is because Anet are scared of the thief cry baby community .. like you that think thief needs to be god ! if you wanna be god... just do what other peple do now days and use hacks.. zzz > > > > > > > > > > if thief is best ranked class why i can't see any thief in ranked pvp ? Literally every 3-10 matchs I can see atleast 1 thief in 1 team but boiz thief is op boiz > > > > > > > > you dont see them cause they abuse stealth.. :P there are daredevil in every game > > > > > > do i need screenshot my every single game right now to show 0 thiefs every game? Sadly we don't have match history so I can't show you 0 thiefs every game > > > > well.. the only situation you wouldnt have thieves is playing not prime time and having game full of bots.. apparently the bots dont play thief .. > > ok what is prime time for thiefs, want to see them every match meh play in the evening.. if you say no one play thieves im sory buddy but you are not stating the truth and missleading.. with that said.. dont take it wrong idea.. im not against and and by all mean same as im free to state my personal opinion so do you! talking things and stating opinions are not bad things.. and shouldnt become disrespectful.. we disagree and that is fine.. the community is large and this is a subject which you wont ever have the entire community to agree on.. thives main will claim 1 thing and most of the community simply say we dont like how stealth is abuseable.. by all mean once Anet will rework stealth completely i will be the first to vote for thief improvements but so long stealth is what it is.. i dont think thieves can ask for anything else.... if you disagree and think other wise.. by all mean state it here.. im not going to bully your opinion but if someone trey to bully mine because im fairly new player and starty going all arrogant .. i will be disrespectful aswell.

> @"Styros.8931" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"Styros.8931" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > > right now as i said thief is by far the most played class in ranked pvp.. and this by its self says everything about current state of thief and that it over preform > > > > ! if you want the sad truth thief should be nerfed further and stealth should be reworked the reason it doesnt happen.. is because Anet are scared of the thief cry baby community .. like you that think thief needs to be god ! if you wanna be god... just do what other peple do now days and use hacks.. zzz > > > > > > if thief is best ranked class why i can't see any thief in ranked pvp ? Literally every 3-10 matchs I can see atleast 1 thief in 1 team but boiz thief is op boiz > > > > you dont see them cause they abuse stealth.. :P there are daredevil in every game > > do i need screenshot my every single game right now to show 0 thiefs every game? Sadly we don't have match history so I can't show you 0 thiefs every game well.. the only situation you wouldnt have thieves is playing not prime time and having game full of bots.. apparently the bots dont play thief ..