Deadly.5791 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 As the title suggest, do you guys think there will be a new god of war? Like they did with Kormir and Abaddon? How crazy could it be if the player characther.... or better yet Rytlock becomes the god of war?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Rather than "will there be" it seems to be more "there is a new". Balthazar says he has been weakened, his "light" was dimmed. That seems pretty strong metaphor for losing godhood. No point in Tyrian history have we heard of a god losing power except when it is taken by an usurper such as the case of Dhuum, Abaddon's precessor, and Abaddon. Only in the case of Dhuum had the prior god survived before, and why is unknown - though it seems now we have two cases. Abaddon was weakened, it should be noted, but by gates that were between him and what he could influence so rather than his power being sealed, it was more of a barrier around him by my interpretation. Will PoF end with an new god from our group? No. I think ArenaNet learned their lesson with Kormir and Trahearne. The playerbase is *way* to greedy to stand for it, and will blame any such NPC with "stealing credit" even though no credit was stolen. And you can 110% guarantee that the PC will not become a god. For many dozens of reasons - balance, story, MMO nature, etc. etc. Most likely, PoF - or Season 4 - will end with us learning who took Balthazar's power and is now the god of war. It will be Menzies or some nobody more than likely. If it is Menzies, I hope they don't continue Peter Fries (iirc - maybe Bobby Stein?) on twitter saying Menzies is pronounced Mingus. P.S. Your title spoils the topic making your spoiler tag pointless. Try to be more generic when you're making spoiler threads in regards to your title. A better one would have been, say "[s3 Spoilers] About our new enemy". Though in this particular case it isn't much a spoiler since EVERYONE will know PoF is about fighting Balthazar - honestly you spoil Flashpoint's reveal more than PoF's ending which is the subject of the thread. Spoilers in titles isn't really a big deal atm, because the newest information in-game was 2 months ago now (and Flashpoint 4 months ago), but in 8 days it'll become a major issue without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxus.5139 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Or maybe Menzies is the new God of War, after all Balthazar claims that he was betrayed... so maybe Menzies (that recently got a Gs skin on the gemstore) won the battle in the Fissure of Woe, because helped by another god, and absorbed Balthy's godhood? Just as Grenth did with Dhuum :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly.5791 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 @"Marxus.5139" I love that idea! :+1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxus.5139 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @"Deadly.5791" Ty :D but the mystery then will be ''Who and why betrayed Balthazar? '' He was in possession of the mirror of Lyssa in Flashpoint, so meybe he started plunder the realm of the other gods (in PoF trailer he states << They cannot escape my wrath. I'm done! I will be the only God!>> so I doubt Lyssa helped him in any way cause she seems to be a target too ^^' ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Balthazar doesn't say that he was betrayed. Just that he learned "there is no honor in war". The two are not necessarily the same. Though speaking of betrayal, Menzies has a long history of [converting Balthazar's eternals.](https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lord_Khobay) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kKagari.6804 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 OMG this is Dark Souls all over again. \o/ Praise the Sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian.4983 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Don't you mean Dwayna? :# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxus.5139 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 @"Konig Des Todes.2086" in the announcement of PoF ( min 1:30 ) the narrator says << He claims to have been betrayed.>>. I based my guesswork on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairyNuff.3452 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 > @"Konig Des Todes.2086" said: > Most likely, PoF - or Season 4 - will end with us learning who took Balthazar's power and is now the god of war. It will be Menzies or some nobody more than likely. If it is Menzies, I hope they don't continue Peter Fries (iirc - maybe Bobby Stein?) on twitter saying Menzies is pronounced Mingus. That is how the name is properly pronounced though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Depends on your choice of language. If you go to the original language for the name then yes. But if you read it as English then no. Ultimately the pronunciation of names is up to the writers though. Will still be weird to see Menzies and hear Mingus all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rognik.2579 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Honestly, at this point, I feel we're close enough that any speculation we make on the subject will prove fruitless in mere days. At the time of this pointing, Path of Fire goes live in 59.5 hours, and we should be getting a lot of backstory from Balthazar about how he got like this, why it happened (maybe) and what we will do about it. Perhaps we won't be killing Balthazar, and somehow get back on his side and fight to get him back into "Heaven" (or whatever the godly realm is called). Honestly, I don't see us killing another god (for reasons like Konig mentioned in his first point, among others) and having to replace yet another god would lead to people wondering why we don't tear down all the Balthazar statues and erect ones to "Kratos" (just to have a generic god of war) instead. It's 3.5 days to launch, people: let's try to hold out into we can get some new lore that we can actually theorize on, rather than crackpot theories or jumping to conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tseison.4659 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I get this feeling that Balthazar has already killed the other gods and that's when we'll learn more about it. He'll probably have certain items from each of the previous gods to use against us - then when it's all done, there will probably be a new batch of gods to take the mantle? OR, with the appearance of the Grenth Regalia - we'll have the other gods help us defeat or subdue Balthazar when he accomplishes his weapon or whatever, which will take us, Aurene and the other gods to take him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ildrid Ildhjertet.2489 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 >! Balthazar has killed the other Gods, but before they were defeated Grenth resurrected Mhenlo, Cynn, Aidan, Devona, Gwen and Koss, and our job in PoF is to help them Ascend to Godhood and overtake Balthazar \o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBroChill.3254 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Idk I feel like kormir/abaddon has something to do with this. Maybe abbadons power and knowledge always corrupts so kormir turned insidious. Perhaps abaddon needed to posses another body to escape the realm of torment and basically bodysnatched kormir. But whoever had the idea that the other gods have been killed, I like that idea. I hope they aren't dead, but I think it would provide for a meaningful and strong story line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorDor.8617 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 > @Tseison.4659 said: > I get this feeling that Balthazar has already killed the other gods and that's when we'll learn more about it. He'll probably have certain items from each of the previous gods to use against us - then when it's all done, there will probably be a new batch of gods to take the mantle? > > OR, with the appearance of the Grenth Regalia - we'll have the other gods help us defeat or subdue Balthazar when he accomplishes his weapon or whatever, which will take us, Aurene and the other gods to take him down. I don't think the first one is a possibility here. Remember what he said in the announcement trailer: "When I am done, I will be the only god!" Implying, in a roundabout way, that other gods still exist for him to kill. My pet theory: the other Five haven't been able to deal with Balthazar because they have their own problems to deal with. There have been hints, for example, that there's a serious hubbub going on in the Underworld. Giant angry monsters from Grenth's home opening portals to Tyria and trying to overrun the mortal world? That is not something Grenth would allow under any circumstances. If it's happening at all, it means he must really have his hands full. While we might not have met them yet, I'm certain each of the gods has some kind of archenemy they'd like to keep down; a Dhuum, a Menzies, a Mallyx, what have you. After what happened with Balthazar, I feel like they'd all take this chance to strike. And that's kept all of them pinned down, unable to deal with the big threat. Either way, I can't wait for the answers we do get in this expansion. I smell a mindscrew on the horizon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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