TricksteR.1392 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I've been having a ton of fun with my elementalist weaver, but I've reached endgame, full ascended and not much to do, so I'm thinking of making a new class, and I can probably use the lvl 80 boost from my PoF purchase, so, the question is, which one? I'm a pve focused player, with little to no interest in spvp. I'm constantly doing high tier fractals, open world exploration and killing champions, strikes and raids whenever I can I would prefer to maintain the DPS role, but I wouldn't mind going for a more tanky focused class, although everyone can tank. Healing is out of the question for now, so even If I picked a ranger, I'd be going for the soulbeast route and neglect the druid. But this is just a quick overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen.1483 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I picked guardian, as it is eaier to play and has many builds to adapt, however soulbeast is my 2nd recommendation for dps. Soulbeast is very strong in CM fractals but it is also maybe the most difficult class to master there if you are not in organizded groups imo. Soulbeast can do an insane damage if everything is perfect (fast cc, stab where needed, setup for reflects, etc..), but in any pug where people forget cc is a thing, any rookie condi firebrand will outdps easily a soulbeast with no effort. Another thing is if you are not playng a power signet share firebrand, soulbeast with stance share and spirit is more valuable as a team member. In healless runs tho, firebrand is a must have in a group. Apart from fractals both have very strong builds, but I'd argue that guardian and especially firebrand has very solid solo builds with quickness group support capabilities. Soloing champions is easy with any class, I'd suggest something like mesmer or necro for that, but those two are very bad in fractals (mesmer op in raids and strikes tho). And for open world firebrand is a love too, especially when you can buff urself with quickness while farming mats without interrupting it. For strikes both are good, for raids, guardian is more versitile again (have meta builds for more wings), but both will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TricksteR.1392 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 > @"Armen.1483" said: > I picked guardian, as it is eaier to play and has many builds to adapt, however soulbeast is my 2nd recommendation for dps. Soulbeast is very strong in CM fractals but it is also maybe the most difficult class to master there if you are not in organizded groups imo. Soulbeast can do an insane damage if everything is perfect (fast cc, stab where needed, setup for reflects, etc..), but in any pug where people forget cc is a thing, any rookie condi firebrand will outdps easily a soulbeast with no effort. Another thing is if you are not playng a power signet share firebrand, soulbeast with stance share and spirit is more valuable as a team member. In healless runs tho, firebrand is a must have in a group. > Apart from fractals both have very strong builds, but I'd argue that guardian and especially firebrand has very solid solo builds with quickness group support capabilities. Soloing champions is easy with any class, I'd suggest something like mesmer or necro for that, but those two are very bad in fractals (mesmer op in raids and strikes tho). And for open world firebrand is a love too, especially when you can buff urself with quickness while farming mats without interrupting it. For strikes both are good, for raids, guardian is more versitile again (have meta builds for more wings), but both will do. For some reason I can't into the whole guardian gimmick I don't find the gameplay fun nor interesting, and despite being versatile I don't see myself enjoying the class I'm torn between ranger (soulbeast) and engineer (holosmith), both of them look and probably feel extremely fun to play, flashy and effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 > @"TricksteR.1392" said: > > @"Armen.1483" said: > > I picked guardian, as it is eaier to play and has many builds to adapt, however soulbeast is my 2nd recommendation for dps. Soulbeast is very strong in CM fractals but it is also maybe the most difficult class to master there if you are not in organizded groups imo. Soulbeast can do an insane damage if everything is perfect (fast cc, stab where needed, setup for reflects, etc..), but in any pug where people forget cc is a thing, any rookie condi firebrand will outdps easily a soulbeast with no effort. Another thing is if you are not playng a power signet share firebrand, soulbeast with stance share and spirit is more valuable as a team member. In healless runs tho, firebrand is a must have in a group. > > Apart from fractals both have very strong builds, but I'd argue that guardian and especially firebrand has very solid solo builds with quickness group support capabilities. Soloing champions is easy with any class, I'd suggest something like mesmer or necro for that, but those two are very bad in fractals (mesmer op in raids and strikes tho). And for open world firebrand is a love too, especially when you can buff urself with quickness while farming mats without interrupting it. For strikes both are good, for raids, guardian is more versitile again (have meta builds for more wings), but both will do. > > For some reason I can't into the whole guardian gimmick > I don't find the gameplay fun nor interesting, and despite being versatile I don't see myself enjoying the class > I'm torn between ranger (soulbeast) and engineer (holosmith), both of them look and probably feel extremely fun to play, flashy and effective So why did you list Guardian in your poll? Why not just list the two you are interested in? And what exactly is the "Guardian gimmick?" Their class mechanic? Never heard of that. If it is between Soulbeast and Holosmith, I'd say Soulbeast, simply because you've already been playing a sword-specialization. I'd recommend Scrapper though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TricksteR.1392 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"DeanBB.4268" said: > > @"TricksteR.1392" said: > > > @"Armen.1483" said: > > > I picked guardian, as it is eaier to play and has many builds to adapt, however soulbeast is my 2nd recommendation for dps. Soulbeast is very strong in CM fractals but it is also maybe the most difficult class to master there if you are not in organizded groups imo. Soulbeast can do an insane damage if everything is perfect (fast cc, stab where needed, setup for reflects, etc..), but in any pug where people forget cc is a thing, any rookie condi firebrand will outdps easily a soulbeast with no effort. Another thing is if you are not playng a power signet share firebrand, soulbeast with stance share and spirit is more valuable as a team member. In healless runs tho, firebrand is a must have in a group. > > > Apart from fractals both have very strong builds, but I'd argue that guardian and especially firebrand has very solid solo builds with quickness group support capabilities. Soloing champions is easy with any class, I'd suggest something like mesmer or necro for that, but those two are very bad in fractals (mesmer op in raids and strikes tho). And for open world firebrand is a love too, especially when you can buff urself with quickness while farming mats without interrupting it. For strikes both are good, for raids, guardian is more versitile again (have meta builds for more wings), but both will do. > > > > For some reason I can't into the whole guardian gimmick > > I don't find the gameplay fun nor interesting, and despite being versatile I don't see myself enjoying the class > > I'm torn between ranger (soulbeast) and engineer (holosmith), both of them look and probably feel extremely fun to play, flashy and effective > > So why did you list Guardian in your poll? Why not just list the two you are interested in? And what exactly is the "Guardian gimmick?" Their class mechanic? Never heard of that. > > If it is between Soulbeast and Holosmith, I'd say Soulbeast, simply because you've already been playing a sword-specialization. I'd recommend Scrapper though. Because at that point I hadn't tried guardian. I'll keep farming the Halloween event and I'll make a new character by then. Either way, I think I'll enjoy both of them far more than I've enjoyed guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen.1483 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"TricksteR.1392" said: > Because at that point I hadn't tried guardian. > I'll keep farming the Halloween event and I'll make a new character by then. Either way, I think I'll enjoy both of them far more than I've enjoyed guardian Until the point you learn the elite specialisations and know how it is played, it will feel that way. I recommend you still play a lil bit more of guard to evaluate better. First impressions can be tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen.1483 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"Armen.1483" said: > > @"TricksteR.1392" said: > > > Because at that point I hadn't tried guardian. > > I'll keep farming the Halloween event and I'll make a new character by then. Either way, I think I'll enjoy both of them far more than I've enjoyed guardian > Until the point you learn the elite specialisations and know how it is played, it will feel that way. I recommend you still play a lil bit more of guard to evaluate better. First impressions can be tricky. Edit: I will add here, that the versatility of guardian comes from different builds played completely differently. And the "gimmicks" change a lot too. Playing a power dragonhunter or a condition firebrand feels like playing completely different classes. To play a dps ranger you are limited to soulbeast (power or condi too) but the gimmick here is the same. In another words ranger has a more basic kit and less "gimmicks", if it is what you like, changing pets doesn't change much the gameplay, and don't you ever think that ranger (or any other class) is a ranged class. Just from my experience I prefer to play ranger in fractals, but gotta admit it is very annoying sometimes when you are in pug groups, ranger is nowhere as independant as guardian, and difficulty of play comes from long cast times and the necessity for an instaCC which is the key of high dps for ranger (a lil more than some other classes), otherwise any rookie firebrand can outdps a ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSkitzo.5403 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 > @"TricksteR.1392" said: > > @"Armen.1483" said: > > I picked guardian, as it is eaier to play and has many builds to adapt, however soulbeast is my 2nd recommendation for dps. Soulbeast is very strong in CM fractals but it is also maybe the most difficult class to master there if you are not in organizded groups imo. Soulbeast can do an insane damage if everything is perfect (fast cc, stab where needed, setup for reflects, etc..), but in any pug where people forget cc is a thing, any rookie condi firebrand will outdps easily a soulbeast with no effort. Another thing is if you are not playng a power signet share firebrand, soulbeast with stance share and spirit is more valuable as a team member. In healless runs tho, firebrand is a must have in a group. > > Apart from fractals both have very strong builds, but I'd argue that guardian and especially firebrand has very solid solo builds with quickness group support capabilities. Soloing champions is easy with any class, I'd suggest something like mesmer or necro for that, but those two are very bad in fractals (mesmer op in raids and strikes tho). And for open world firebrand is a love too, especially when you can buff urself with quickness while farming mats without interrupting it. For strikes both are good, for raids, guardian is more versitile again (have meta builds for more wings), but both will do. > > For some reason I can't into the whole guardian gimmick > I don't find the gameplay fun nor interesting, and despite being versatile I don't see myself enjoying the class > I'm torn between ranger (soulbeast) and engineer (holosmith), both of them look and probably feel extremely fun to play, flashy and effective If you want fun, flashy and effective - holo all the way. I’ve played all nine classes and elites in all game modes and finally picked a main with holo. Engi was my second to last class picked up and I kept bouncing between classes before it. Now I main holo in pvp, wvw, fractals and raids. Super fun, doesn’t get boring, holo mode is flashy and can always go scrapper (minus raids/fracts) if you want something slower pace/change of scenery. Soulbeast isn’t bad but when you lost the ability to pet swap in combat, that was icing on the cake for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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