Warlord.9074 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Dear ANET Maguuma has been closed for a very long time. We are fine with that as it prevents bandwagoneers from transferring to our server. But we also hate link servers for the same reason. Link servers bring nothing of value to the game other than to be like shells that your company can attach to other servers to monetize bandwagoning. Basically instead of fixing the game 5 years now or just pulling the trigger and closing dead servers, they are being milked for gems and the same behavior that has ruined the game still going on but in a way that you can control every 2 months. This is not a solution its only a loop hole. It's like tax deductions for corporations instead of just fixing the tax code. That is totally legal because without it businesses would be noncompetitive but everyone knows its wrong way to do things. Maguuma is simply just tired of this don't give us link servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodOfDeath.5247 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 uh oh sweet valley high server has some drama again! Face it, the quarterback likes the goth girl instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 How does it go "If they do it for one server, they will need to do it for others" so I dont think this will happen anytime soon from a business perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamurabi.7890 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Anet should link Mag and BG. That would be fun to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 If they removed links now for us little brother servers we would die again/more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan.3472 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Last T1 server that had an elitist wvw guilds behavior excluding any other people was SoR and we all know how they ended back then and what is their place now. Take notes Mag. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @Titan.3472 said: > Last T1 server that had an elitist wvw guilds behavior excluding any other people was SoR and we all know how they ended back then and what is their place now. Take notes Mag. xD And anyone who was around during that time knows that SOR's eventual collapse had nothing to do with elitism. Nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @Swamurabi.7890 said: > Anet should link Mag and BG. That would be fun to see. Then pair up every other server into 2 servers to fight the mag/bg conglomeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @Titan.3472 said: > Last T1 server that had an elitist wvw guilds behavior excluding any other people was SoR and we all know how they ended back then and what is their place now. Take notes Mag. xD Mag don't really care about that as long they get fights tho... The less Rallybot pugs they get on their side the better. Also, there is a added bonus that they won't be in T1 (Which is pretty garbage if you want fights) if they don't have PPT tryhards from a link server pushing them up. Anyone who been around for long enough knows Mag PPT until they get where they want to and then just chill around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @Jeknar.6184 said: > > @Titan.3472 said: > > Last T1 server that had an elitist wvw guilds behavior excluding any other people was SoR and we all know how they ended back then and what is their place now. Take notes Mag. xD > > Mag don't really care about that as long they get fights tho... The less Rallybot pugs they get on their side the better. Also, there is a added bonus that they won't be in T1 (Which is pretty garbage if you want fights) if they don't have PPT tryhards from a link server pushing them up. Anyone who been around for long enough knows Mag PPT until they get where they want to and then just chill around. This... quit tanking and manipulating your rank. You drop, you get a link. Simple concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnada.3016 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I second the OP. The current linking system is simply not working out well for motivated players who want to compete. This is why in professional sports you don't see the New England Patriots playing against two CFL teams that have been combined to form one, patchwork football team that has no hope of competing. Closing servers for prolonged periods of time prevents friends from playing together and prevents like-minded individuals from coming together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 This ain't a sports league. It's a casual game with all manner of skill level thrown together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @Loosmaster.8263 said: > > @Jeknar.6184 said: > > > @Titan.3472 said: > > > Last T1 server that had an elitist wvw guilds behavior excluding any other people was SoR and we all know how they ended back then and what is their place now. Take notes Mag. xD > > > > Mag don't really care about that as long they get fights tho... The less Rallybot pugs they get on their side the better. Also, there is a added bonus that they won't be in T1 (Which is pretty garbage if you want fights) if they don't have PPT tryhards from a link server pushing them up. Anyone who been around for long enough knows Mag PPT until they get where they want to and then just chill around. > > This... quit tanking and manipulating your rank. You drop, you get a link. Simple concept. The problem with this is that they will stay on Blackgate's garden which isn't very entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro.3176 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yeah. Mag vs BG is boring. BG takes a keep, then fills it with arrow carts and siege and refuses to come out to fight. BG enjoys 'winning', no matter what the means. Mag enjoys 'fighting' regardless of the PPT score. It's just a bad matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarCayne.3098 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @coro.3176 said: > Yeah. Mag vs BG is boring. > > BG takes a keep, then fills it with arrow carts and siege and refuses to come out to fight. > > BG enjoys 'winning', no matter what the means. > Mag enjoys 'fighting' regardless of the PPT score. > > It's just a bad matchup. We have an expression at work for those who need to control everything: Fill Your Boots. Make your own fun. Fight only with the third server and let the other guys win. They'll eventually get bored and ask to have their server opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @SugarCayne.3098 said: > > @coro.3176 said: > > Yeah. Mag vs BG is boring. > > > > BG takes a keep, then fills it with arrow carts and siege and refuses to come out to fight. > > > > BG enjoys 'winning', no matter what the means. > > Mag enjoys 'fighting' regardless of the PPT score. > > > > It's just a bad matchup. > > We have an expression at work for those who need to control everything: Fill Your Boots. > > Make your own fun. > > Fight only with the third server and let the other guys win. They'll eventually get bored and ask to have their server opened. I don't think there is a 3rd server at all... Everytime a server go up to T1 they just tank as hard as they can to guarantee they will leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarCayne.3098 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @Jeknar.6184 said: > > @SugarCayne.3098 said: > > > @coro.3176 said: > > > Yeah. Mag vs BG is boring. > > > > > > BG takes a keep, then fills it with arrow carts and siege and refuses to come out to fight. > > > > > > BG enjoys 'winning', no matter what the means. > > > Mag enjoys 'fighting' regardless of the PPT score. > > > > > > It's just a bad matchup. > > > > We have an expression at work for those who need to control everything: Fill Your Boots. > > > > Make your own fun. > > > > Fight only with the third server and let the other guys win. They'll eventually get bored and ask to have their server opened. > > I don't think there is a 3rd server at all... Everytime a server go up to T1 they just tank as hard as they can to guarantee they will leave. Oh there's always server cross talk. Easy enough to coordinate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Mag doesn't enjoy fighting. They enjoy either farming or looking at high KDR number. Let's be honest. If they truly enjoy fighting, why don't they go to a few different servers and fight each other? All they do is to pick a server and gravitate to it so they can farm less experienced players together. This is the same as having 5 legendary players in PvP queue up against 3 gold 2 silver. It is not a fight. It is simply a farm, taking less effort than PvE farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 It's interesting: the thread about who your preferred link would be was closed because it was a matchup thread (go figure) but this one has more of that in it than that one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K THEN.5162 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @"Red Haired Savage.5430" said: > If they removed links now for us little brother servers we would die again/more. Your que position is 9999999999999999999... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulzi.8273 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 > @coro.3176 said: > Yeah. Mag vs BG is boring. > > BG takes a keep, then fills it with arrow carts and siege and refuses to come out to fight. > > BG enjoys 'winning', no matter what the means. > Mag enjoys 'fighting' regardless of the PPT score. > > It's just a bad matchup. Not sure what game or zone you play in, but I think you got BG and Mag mixed up there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 > @Exciton.8942 said: > Mag doesn't enjoy fighting. > > They enjoy either farming or looking at high KDR number. > > Let's be honest. If they truly enjoy fighting, why don't they go to a few different servers and fight each other? All they do is to pick a server and gravitate to it so they can farm less experienced players together. > > This is the same as having 5 legendary players in PvP queue up against 3 gold 2 silver. It is not a fight. It is simply a farm, taking less effort than PvE farm. Players go to Mag because of the fight atmosphere, there isn't another server quite like it with the fights first attitude. You want them to go other servers and spread out? Well guess what, they already have in the past year, Mag hasn't been open very much just like BG, and no links beyond this last one since jan, so it's not they've been taking on those players either. It's time to give some other servers more turns up in t1 for a change. > @mulzi.8273 said: > > @coro.3176 said: > > Yeah. Mag vs BG is boring. > > BG takes a keep, then fills it with arrow carts and siege and refuses to come out to fight. > > BG enjoys 'winning', no matter what the means. > > Mag enjoys 'fighting' regardless of the PPT score. > > It's just a bad matchup. > > Not sure what game or zone you play in, but I think you got BG and Mag mixed up there... Sounds like you're mixed up there. BG has indeed been taking blue hills and red fire keep all week, constantly upgrading to t3 by actively walking yaks and sieging out the ears. Why do you think they've been running away with the score lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty Pixie.8603 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Those dead servers still hold lots of PvE players. If you delete those servers they will have to spread out to the remaining servers. When distributed to larger, 'winning' servers, a sizeable number might decide to try out WvW, leading to larger queue times and more non-dedicated players on maps. Doesn't sound too appealing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord.9074 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Nah, just create a couple brand new servers with new names, Id say just make 3 new ones. Call them like something cool . Anyone on a deleted server has a free transfer to one of them. Players not on a deleted server can't transfer there for a period of 6 months or more. After 6 months open every server except BG. New accounts are only allowed to go to one of the 3 new servers for the 6 month period. This to me sounds like a better solution than the wack a mole currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 > @Warlord.9074 said: > Nah, just create a couple brand new servers with new names, Id say just make 3 new ones. Call them like something cool . > Anyone on a deleted server has a free transfer to one of them. Players not on a deleted server can't transfer there for a period of 6 months or more. After 6 months open every server except BG. New accounts are only allowed to go to one of the 3 new servers for the 6 month period. > > This to me sounds like a better solution than the wack a mole currently. If they need to delete servers to accomplish this, why wouldn't they just delete all servers, including BG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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