The Great Dwarf is a champion of an ED, or even an Elder Dragon?

[Kovac.4372]

This has probably been discussed before ... but considering how all the ED transform their minions to whatever their attunement is, it makes sense for the dwarves turning to stone be the same process.

 

I also remember Ogden explaining how turning to stone through the ritual the dwarves are stripped of part of themselves, their individuality, although I can't seem to find the exact quote now.

 

Thoughts?

[The Greyhawk.9107]

Not likely. The All effectively restricts the possible number of EDs that would have existed during the Rite to only Six, and none of those six have a corresponding Power Set that would match the Great Dwarf's power over Stone. The closest we could get would be Primordus, which is not only a stretch power set wise but also completely counter to the Rite's purpose, and Kralk, which still doesn't line up. Branded don't just change into crystal they get reshaped into abominations. Dwarves just turned to stone, their shapes didn't change.

[Hannelore.8153]

> @"The Greyhawk.9107" said:

> Not likely. The All effectively restricts the possible number of EDs that would have existed during the Rite to only Six, and none of those six have a corresponding Power Set that would match the Great Dwarf's power over Stone. The closest we could get would be Primordus, which is not only a stretch power set wise but also completely counter to the Rite's purpose, and Kralk, which still doesn't line up. Branded don't just change into crystal they get reshaped into abominations. Dwarves just turned to stone, their shapes didn't change.

 

***SPOILERS FOR ICEBROOD SAGA***

The Stone Summit tried to resist the ritual using Primordus' power and ended up transformed anyway, and corrupted on top of that. So while Dwarves may not be dragon minions, Primordus might have their knowledge, including how the ritual works.

 

Its been shown that corrupted beings reveal all to their new masters, so he likely knows everything the dwarves knew.

[draxynnic.3719]

> @"Hannelore.8153" said:

> > @"The Greyhawk.9107" said:

> > Not likely. The All effectively restricts the possible number of EDs that would have existed during the Rite to only Six, and none of those six have a corresponding Power Set that would match the Great Dwarf's power over Stone. The closest we could get would be Primordus, which is not only a stretch power set wise but also completely counter to the Rite's purpose, and Kralk, which still doesn't line up. Branded don't just change into crystal they get reshaped into abominations. Dwarves just turned to stone, their shapes didn't change.

>

> ***SPOILERS FOR ICEBROOD SAGA***

> The Stone Summit tried to resist the ritual using Primordus' power and ended up transformed anyway, and corrupted on top of that. So while Dwarves may not be dragon minions, Primordus might have their knowledge, including how the ritual works.

>

> Its been shown that corrupted beings reveal all to their new masters, so he likely knows everything the dwarves knew.

 

Assuming, of course, that Primordus' relationship with minions is the same as Zhaitan's. A few things that have been considered to be true for all Elder Dragons have proven to not necessarily be the case. Primordus getting less out of corrupting the living might partially explain Primordus being less interested in doing so.