lorddavito.2395 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 of the 3 rangers representing o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZhouX.8742 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 > @"Faux Play.6104" said: > > @choovanski.5462 said: > > > @Falan.1839 said: > > > Well right now that said Mesmer has identified Holosmith as the main balance problem, so she's clearly still on track. :D > > > > > > On topic: the team that should have won the EU monthly AT was rolling with 2 Spellbreakers and a Scourge, while the other team, that actually won it (due to 5v4) had 2 Scourges and a Spellbreaker. The team that has won most of those tournaments went without such a comp and lost the semifinal. This basically sums it up. Firebrand is the best babysitter for Scourge, so it's Meta aswell, while Thief does the same thing as always. Even though the ability of SB to survive 2v1 for ages has made it somewhat less effective. Right now there is virtually no reason to use any other classes besides, Scourge, SB, FB and Thief. Even though I suspect that even the thief could be sacked with 2 spellbreakers locking sides. I'd honestly roll with 2 Scourges, 2 SBs and Fb right now if I had the players for it and wanted to be tryhard. > > > > her eagle eye sees what no pro can. 30 seconds of invun on holo. very op. much need nerf > > > > oh man, comps are so depressing rn. another wave of powercreep- & unsurprisingly the only class that’s been able to ride that wave is thief (pictured below, riding said wave of imbalance). still if i was wild enough, i’d try & run 4-5 sages firebrands just to see if you can heal & burn your way to victory > > > >  > > > > > > Holosmith is pretty strong. Rocket boots (two 1200 leaps each with 2 seconds super speed), along with elixir s invuln Plus 2 conversion of two conditions to boons on a passive proc. You really shouldn't die running it. combine that with massive damage and hard cc and you have a pretty strong class. ok , solo a druid / condi mirage at far with holo , you'll stalemate or lose before getting 1upped ... try fighting against a scourge + firebrand in mid with holo, you'll do little to no damage and find yourself juggling between mid and far. holo is great at specific things like cleave / 1up dmg and aoe dmg on point, which is why it's more balanced if not one of the most fair and balanced classes that are effective in their way out of the PoF expansion... you can die easily as holo against good players - which makes holo have a higher skill ceiling with it's utility. yes rocket boots with gadget is nice for positioning and escape, elixir s passive is more harmful than it is helpful in most cases and makes you easy for setup if the opponent knows basic math and counts. 2 conversion of 2 conditions, gasp - massive game changer ... condi specs or condi bursts STILL counters holo and holo relies too heavily on a rng cast between smoke field and light field. it's great but it's not as good as you're making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDudisx.5914 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 More evidence supporting the need of a nerf for scourge, spellbreaker and firebrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Woah, though spellbreaker, scourge and firebrand still need some balance ( expansion is still fresh, but let's see the incoming patch ), the tournament had 11 thieves. Which means that thief is still viable, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurrTheKing.8571 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 > @Shirlias.8104 said: > Woah, though spellbreaker, scourge and firebrand still need some balance ( expansion is still fresh, but let's see the incoming patch ), the tournament had 11 thieves. > Which means that thief is still viable, isn't it? Thief will always be viable so long as it has the best mobility in the game and it only takes a measly 5 seconds to decap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 > @Shirlias.8104 said: > Woah, though spellbreaker, scourge and firebrand still need some balance ( expansion is still fresh, but let's see the incoming patch ), the tournament had 11 thieves. > Which means that thief is still viable, isn't it? Yes, but deadeye is still underperforming in PvP. Most of those thieves were probably DD's decapping and +1'ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Added statistics for today's tournaments, same sources and methods. A bit fewer spellbreakers many of which seem to have shifted to ranger and mes leaving the 3 main side node builds pretty equal in representation. Scourge and firebrand actually increased in popularity while rev managed to go down so gg balance patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 > @ArthurDent.9538 said: > Added statistics for today's tournaments, same sources and methods. A bit fewer spellbreakers many of which seem to have shifted to ranger and mes leaving the 3 main side node builds pretty equal in representation. Scourge and firebrand actually increased in popularity while rev managed to go down so gg balance patch. Doubt anyone is surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loboling.5293 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 OMG, I NEVER SAW THIS COMING!!! And here I was feeling totally fine on my Rev... I miss nodes. Oh What the Scourges have done to my class... :astonished: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 My prediction: Next quarterly patch they'll balance Firebrand as they did with Spellbreaker and leave Scourge for another 3 months. Can only balance one auto-lock profession at a time, boys. :trollface: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 > @Chaith.8256 said: > > My prediction: Next quarterly patch they'll balance Firebrand as they did with Spellbreaker and leave Scourge for another 3 months. > > Can only balance one auto-lock profession at a time, boys. :trollface: > Your optimism is killing me @_q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 > @"Faux Play.6104" said: > > @choovanski.5462 said: > > > @Falan.1839 said: > > > Well right now that said Mesmer has identified Holosmith as the main balance problem, so she's clearly still on track. :D > > > > > > On topic: the team that should have won the EU monthly AT was rolling with 2 Spellbreakers and a Scourge, while the other team, that actually won it (due to 5v4) had 2 Scourges and a Spellbreaker. The team that has won most of those tournaments went without such a comp and lost the semifinal. This basically sums it up. Firebrand is the best babysitter for Scourge, so it's Meta aswell, while Thief does the same thing as always. Even though the ability of SB to survive 2v1 for ages has made it somewhat less effective. Right now there is virtually no reason to use any other classes besides, Scourge, SB, FB and Thief. Even though I suspect that even the thief could be sacked with 2 spellbreakers locking sides. I'd honestly roll with 2 Scourges, 2 SBs and Fb right now if I had the players for it and wanted to be tryhard. > > > > her eagle eye sees what no pro can. 30 seconds of invun on holo. very op. much need nerf > > > > oh man, comps are so depressing rn. another wave of powercreep- & unsurprisingly the only class that’s been able to ride that wave is thief (pictured below, riding said wave of imbalance). still if i was wild enough, i’d try & run 4-5 sages firebrands just to see if you can heal & burn your way to victory > > > >  > > > > > > Holosmith is pretty strong. Rocket boots (two 1200 leaps each with 2 seconds super speed), along with elixir s invuln Plus 2 conversion of two conditions to boons on a passive proc. You really shouldn't die running it. combine that with massive damage and hard cc and you have a pretty strong class. ....yep in a world of condi, and a delay usage on elixir c when in battle definitely helps one survive the war for such a long time! fyi a thief can keep up with a engi rocket boot with no issue and still man handle us =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimsley.3681 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Who’s the elementalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya.6495 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 what spec are rngs running? druid staff/ dagger/sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I don't know whether to cry at the one poor ele soul. I'll honestly laugh if that's Phanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednaxela.6018 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 > @Pimsley.3681 said: > Who’s the elementalist? I was the Elementalist. We lost against sind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 > @Rednaxela.6018 said: > > @Pimsley.3681 said: > > Who’s the elementalist? > > I was the Elementalist. We lost against sind. I'm assuming you were using Tempest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednaxela.6018 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 > @Lilyanna.9361 said: > > @Rednaxela.6018 said: > > > @Pimsley.3681 said: > > > Who’s the elementalist? > > > > I was the Elementalist. We lost against sind. > > I'm assuming you were using Tempest? Nope, played fresh air weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xillllix.3485 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I think they need to make Weaver more complicated and even less rewarding, to make sure that absolutely nobody enjoys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednaxela.6018 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Yea, one weaver is still one weaver to much xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimsley.3681 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 > @Rednaxela.6018 said: > > @Pimsley.3681 said: > > Who’s the elementalist? > > I was the Elementalist. /cheer I got a Razer Naga coz of you! I hope you keep posting YouTube videos of your FA Weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbroe.4329 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 @"Kuya.6495" from a glance, the bunker Druid build from the great (fyi to anyone reading it's been used in UGOs and ATs by successful and winning teams and should be meta tagged but *shrugs*) section of metabattle. I saw some variations, but that was the build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednaxela.6018 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 > @Pimsley.3681 said: > > @Rednaxela.6018 said: > > > @Pimsley.3681 said: > > > Who’s the elementalist? > > > > I was the Elementalist. > > /cheer > > I got a Razer Naga coz of you! I hope you keep posting YouTube videos of your FA Weaver. > > I´ll do as long as people want them :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Added the statistics for December, balance patch did next to nothing once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikki.7891 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 went from 20 warriors in October to 9 in december. Now we need to give Firebrands and scourges a reason to play ele and rev and everything should even out somewhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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