Cynz.9437

> @"Khalisto.5780" said: > if at least they buffed something to make up for it You are kidding, right? You actually expect compensation? Seriously? After they have been nerf hammer every other class WITHOUT any compensation? LOL. Mannnn, i want to save your comment so next time there is 1000th thread crying for stealth removal i can show this.

> @"Falan.1839" said: > > @"Flumek.9043" said: > > While im a necro 1trick since launch and its the game I enjoyed, > > I doubt how long it would last. It was very punishing , 1-shoty and very "proc" based. > > > > Air + fire sigil + dhuumfire = 3k dmg on a power necro attack thats meant to do 500 dmg. > > Add spinal shivers and I can already remember how a duel against the average sizer looked: > > > > hit for 3k with procs > > dodge > > doge > > swap to dagger, land 2x autos > > doge > > doge > > swap shroud > > doge > > evade > > dodge > > land shroud auto 4k , air 1k , fire 1k , spinal 4k > > sizer ded, me 3hp. > > > > Its a good equal matchup betweem 2 glass builds, but only cz both builds have unfair mechanics. > > So if you remove 1 stupid thing , which you 99% will have to, lets say the fire air procks , you then need to make necros actual weapon more reliable. > > At that point, youre already playing something closer to HOT than vanilla gw2. > > Don't disturb people rose tinted nostalgia with actual facts about the gameplay back then. > > PvP has always had it's share of kitten mechanics (beside a lot of very cool and skillbased ones, to be fair). At least Lich was kitten zapping people with AA spam in 2014 and is kitten zapping people with AA spam in 2021, so we've gone full circle on that. > > Otherwise, I'd rather have the current meta improved than going back in time, despite all the fun I had on cele rifle. There was less of "having everything" and more of "risk/reward". I honestly miss it. And i am well aware we will never see it again (too many things changed). So give me my rose tinted glasses back while i am mashing my keys... in a raid and not pvp :(

> @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > It'd be funny if everyone switched to DH and relied on other sources for support. Can you imagine the meta *hell* of zergs with ~15-20 trappers dumping spinning swords everywhere? Oh look an enemy zerg lets pu**FWOOOMP** *25 people instantly died from traps the enemy zerg already has off cooldown*. > > I would love to see that happen at least once tho. Same for a group of 25 Deadeyes all using mark with mug, improv, sleight of hand and collateral damage all traited, all on a single target xD Reminds me of necro runs. Can be fun, realistically rather 1-2 time occurrence.

Welcome to the club, you may take a seat next to mirage and teef :) Yes, i know, i am bitter. Jokes aside, i think the changes would be less tragic (at least from your view, OP) if necro and DH saw some adjustments (please don't bring up nova lol).

I will be just really really subjective and selfish here (because being objective is pointless anyway, only very few care about risk/reward and fair gameplay): - they didn't nerf teef -> whew O_o' - they nerfed other classes -> indirect, slight buff to teef -> wee O.o - DH bug got supposedly fixed -> yay O_O? - DH/trapper runes weren't touched -> yikes :s

I actually have another suggestion: give it additional party quickness or alac in pve only. That might open new opportunities for thief in raids/fractals.

I have to agree with OP. This was my experience on thief as well. No matter what build i run or how much i contribute i just get laughed at and mobbed by the zergs from my own server. Usually you don't even get chance to do anything - you just get instantly kicked because the truth is, every other class does everything better that thief could potentially offer to the zerg. So at the end we are either pigeonholed into roaming which end up in 1000 wvw threads asking to delete thief (yeah, how dare a class that was forced into roaming and build for it actually kill someone) or reroll something else. I personally NEVER got trashtalked by the zerg when i played other classes, NO matter how crappy i played. If however Anet support did their job then half of the wvw population from my server would be probably banned given how much i was griefed by them simply for playing thief.

Any time. For leveling just look for social kind of guild with XP boost preferably. As far as end game content goes: it depends what you want to do. If you want to do fractals or raids, look for guilds that do trainings (very important or you won't get anywhere) and daily runs. If you want to do WvW (big scale server vs server pvp) look for guilds that focus on that kind of activity. If you want to pvp: having a guild there is not necessary but can be nice if you want to do automated tournaments. I would suggest to look on pvp forums for those. Also, rather then asking for guild in the starting zone rather look for one either in major cities (e.g. Lion's Arch or Divinity's Reach) or in dedicated forum section.

> @"Shao.7236" said: > > @"Dadnir.5038" said: > > > @"FrownyClown.8402" said: > > > What makes it op on DH but not on a ranger? Dunno just seems that the problem isn't the rune. A 10 ICD is a fair adjustment. > > > > It did make ranger OP until they nerfed their traps (I can garantee you that the build was very effective, trap ranger used to be nigh uncatchable). It also did make thiefs OP until they nerfed their trap (Same here a super effective build, even more effective than the ranger's in fact, I mean, the thief wasn't even revealed when it's traps were triggered and it's foes litterally melted without even seeing it's shadow)... It even somehow led the devs to change thieves trap into preparations to be more thorough. I'm sure DH traps can be nerfed to the ground as well so that the runeset don't make them OP anymore but do the playerbase want that? > > > > Stealth is just to strong on a runeset (even as a base ability for a profession it tend to make players argue that it's to strong). New e-specs are coming in a few month, if any of them get traps, it will be just a question of time before players come here ask for a nerf of this runeset. > > How would you nerf DH traps though, they're balanced right now. It's only the "trap" attribute that makes them even considered for use, Dragon Maw would be the only trap ever used otherwise if it wasn't for the Rune on Condition damage. > > SoJ is where all the damage comes from and if we're talking Power, Scepter skill 2 is a much bigger issue right now as it stands it's actually stronger in PvP than WvW or PvE. (No wonder it's being used so much in favor of anything else.) I have faith in Anet nerfing skills: something along the line "added 300 sec CD" lol. You know, the usual type of "balance".

> @"FrownyClown.8402" said: > What makes it op on DH but not on a ranger? Dunno just seems that the problem isn't the rune. A 10 ICD is a fair adjustment. Ranger traps got nerfed. Thief traps got removed completely. An immobile class that is definitely designed around NOT having stealth by all means (abundance of blocks, heal, regen, aegis, condi cleanse, team support, some hard cc and invuls) got really easy access not only to stealth but also superspeed - what could go wrong %D You guys may defend this all you want eventually thanks to this rune DH, not the rune, but DH will be nerfed, just other classes did because of this rune. I wonder though if you really will enjoy it. Remember how mesmers defended mirage on launch instead of admitting that EM was too good and giving constructive feedback? Yeah. Look where mirage is now.

> @"Brokensunday.4098" said: > I have seen matches with 6 necros 4 thief 6 revs so whats the point of this thread? > Probably because we see multiple guards and necros (with some sprinkle of wars, ranger and revs) every match and your situation is like 1 out of 100 during off hours when barely anyone plays so matchmaking has to compromise.

Devs (playing guards, ironically) call it "balance"~

> @"cyberzombie.7348" said: > It mostly depends on what build I'm on but here's my general ranking > > 1. Healing seed: Free regen even if I'm not in the aoe and when I am, I spam combo finishers to help facetank or heal others. > 2. Whirling axe: Although the damage is point blank its devastating to be hit by it. Plus I can use it defensively with a smoke field along with reflecting shots. > 3. Gunk: I never used it at first but I learned the ethereal field is pretty useful to get chaos armor since it can grant protection and regen if hit, while giving out confusion on projectile finishers. > 4. Blinding tuft: Free blind and invis. > 5. Plasma: Although its a completely selfish skill, its a life saver at times with the defensive boons it gives. > 6. Essence Sap: It's good for extra damage and slow if I have enough cc to consistently interrupt > 7. Mace: Its a good cc and even better with mesmer runes but its telegraphed, point blank, and negated by stability so hitting someone with it feels like a craps shoot. > 8. Ice shard: Much like the mace its good when it hits but its telegraphed and point blank although the deadeye variant is much more reliable. > 9. Skull fear: It's good in conjunction with other soft like cripple or chill but unless I have full fear duration and time to cast it, it's a really situational skill. Your lists nearly matches mine. I would add that i like condi cleanse from healing seed - REALLY useful when burning guards and necros are in dominating pvp.

> @"Infusion.7149" said: > I'd rather it always give quickness in PvE , with a negligible duration in PVP/WVW (1/4 second?). That would make boon daredevil relevant outside of a few select raids. Please no, the boon strip has its uses in PVE as well (e.g. bounties).

Did ATs yesterday and also have seen this in ranked. Multiple players on team just DC. Also, i am not sure wether it has something to do with ATs but we couldn't decap/cap point even though nobody from enemy team was standing on it.