Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. > > > > > > rember before joined is only 10% discout ,if after 10 years,20%discount ,will u join 5years later and then buy 20%accnout's,no ,if20yaars later ,therie will be a game named:;guildwars3 > > > > A gemstore discount still increases the value of old accounts which leads to the problems I mentioned. > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better.> @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better. Reive? What’s that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Sairing, you don't need to repeat everything you say. I understand what you want to say, but it seems like you don't really listen to our arguments. Instead you always repeat yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. > > > > > > > > rember before joined is only 10% discout ,if after 10 years,20%discount ,will u join 5years later and then buy 20%accnout's,no ,if20yaars later ,therie will be a game named:;guildwars3 > > > > > > A gemstore discount still increases the value of old accounts which leads to the problems I mentioned. > > > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better.> @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better. > > Reive? What’s that? He means that you receive more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWolf.8670 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I don't think this is necessary or fair to newer players. There are plenty of ways they could improve the store other than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. > > > > > > > > > > rember before joined is only 10% discout ,if after 10 years,20%discount ,will u join 5years later and then buy 20%accnout's,no ,if20yaars later ,therie will be a game named:;guildwars3 > > > > > > > > A gemstore discount still increases the value of old accounts which leads to the problems I mentioned. > > > > > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better.> @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better. > > > > Reive? What’s that? > > He means that you receive more. Oh. Receive.. ok @"sairing.5832" you’re still not refuting my point that old accounts from people who no longer play would be worth more and sell better as second hand accounts, thus costing ANet money from loss of sales of new accounts and from account disputes when people decide to get their sold accounts back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. > > > > > > > > > > > > rember before joined is only 10% discout ,if after 10 years,20%discount ,will u join 5years later and then buy 20%accnout's,no ,if20yaars later ,therie will be a game named:;guildwars3 > > > > > > > > > > A gemstore discount still increases the value of old accounts which leads to the problems I mentioned. > > > > > > > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better.> @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > > > > > this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better. > > > > > > Reive? What’s that? > > > > He means that you receive more. > > Oh. Receive.. ok > > @"sairing.5832" you’re still not refuting my point that old accounts from people who no longer play would be worth more and sell better as second hand accounts, thus costing ANet money from loss of sales of new accounts and from account disputes when people decide to get their sold accounts back. will punsh the new player????this means if u will be older player ,u will reive better.,why not join this game eailer,if u join the game ,u will be newplayer years and years???,no u will be 1years player ,2 years player and .....only 10%,10$if "a"is 100$,they still payed 90$ One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. rember before joined is only 10% discout ,if after 10 years,20%discount ,will u join 5years later and then buy 20%accnout's,no ,if20yaars later ,therie will be a game named:;guildwars3 such as 5 years later,your account discount is 10%,older is 20%,will u pay14% secondhand accounts???if "a"is100$,u must pay 88$,and also% will be banded by aant,and the older is stil 80$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Even if people only get 5% discount - their accounts are immediately worth more than a newer account. Just a flesh wound is right, that's a really bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch of Doom.5739 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Although I'm a player of both GW and GW2 from their first days, I am not in favor of this. To keep the game afloat it needs to attract new players and I fear they wouldn't like this. Maybe almost as much as I hate random skins and dyes in the Gem Shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. second if second handed seller be baned they will lose everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > second if second handed seller be baned they will lose everything. **If** If is not when. If they keep under anets radar they can play as long as they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > second if second handed seller be baned they will lose everything. > > **If** > > If is not when. If they keep under anets radar they can play as long as they like. will they wantt to lose everything just for some small money??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > > > second if second handed seller be baned they will lose everything. > > > > **If** > > > > If is not when. If they keep under anets radar they can play as long as they like. > > They'll have to pay for a few small sums of money And they get gemstore discounts from using an old secondhand account and get access to the game for cheap by buying a second hand accounts, saving them even more money both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Account age does not translate, necessarily, into any particular benefit to ANet, the game, or the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > > > > > second if second handed seller be baned they will lose everything. > > > > > > **If** > > > > > > If is not when. If they keep under anets radar they can play as long as they like. > > > > They'll have to pay for a few small sums of money > > And they get gemstore discounts from using an old secondhand account and get access to the game for cheap by buying a second hand accounts, saving them even more money both ways. if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > > > second if second handed seller be baned they will lose everything. > > > > **If** > > > > If is not when. If they keep under anets radar they can play as long as they like. > will they wantt to lose everything just for some small money??? People buy secondhand accounts now with the chance of losing money if the sale is revoked. Do you really think a better deal on secondhand accounts will make them stop if a worse deal now doesn’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @Ashen.2907 said: > Account age does not translate, necessarily, into any particular benefit to ANet, the game, or the community. if u are anet,will u try your best to earn money??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > One problem, old accounts that are sold to other people would now be worth more because of the gemstore discount. This would increase the number of old secondhand accounts. Which means ANet would lose money from not selling new accounts as well as losses from the gemstore discounts and increased costs when Support gets involved in account disputes. > > > > > > > > second if second handed seller be baned they will lose everything. > > > > > > **If** > > > > > > If is not when. If they keep under anets radar they can play as long as they like. > > will they wantt to lose everything just for some small money??? > > People buy secondhand accounts now with the chance of losing money if the sale is revoked. Do you really think a better deal on secondhand accounts will make them stop if a worse deal now doesn’t? > sorry english bad ,can't translate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @Ashen.2907 said: > > Account age does not translate, necessarily, into any particular benefit to ANet, the game, or the community. > > if u are anet,will u try your best to earn money??? Now I feel like you're just trolling us. Of course Anet wants to make as much money as possible. But that doesn't mean that they can control everyone and everything. They are ALWAYS bad people doing shady business. People that will exploit something. Anet can't find and ban them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @Ashen.2907 said: > > Account age does not translate, necessarily, into any particular benefit to ANet, the game, or the community. > > if u are anet,will u try your best to earn money??? Of course. But age of account is not inherently an indicator that it is the best tarvet for discounts of the sort you describe. A far better metric for targeted discounting would be spending habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @Ashen.2907 said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @Ashen.2907 said: > > > Account age does not translate, necessarily, into any particular benefit to ANet, the game, or the community. > > > > if u are anet,will u try your best to earn money??? > > Of course. > > But age of account is not inherently an indicator that it is the best tarvet for discounts of the sort you describe. A far better metric for targeted discounting would be spending habits. yep ,this is a good idear ,but it only a The idea of promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell > > People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. > > But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). > > And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. so maybe i ask how many 5years accnout ,and how much whant to play,and how much peiple Sent the money and give up thier own account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell > > > > People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. > > > > But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). > > > > And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. > > so maybe i ask how many 5years accnout ,and how much whant to play,and how much peiple Sent the money and give up thier own account I don't wanna be rude...but I don't understand a word you're trying to say :< It's a little bit difficult to talk to you because of the language barrier. May I ask what your first language is? (Please say german, then at least I could talk in german with you) xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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