Seera.5916 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 No to discount purely based on age of account. It means that ANet will increase prices based on the average discount players get so that their bottom line isn't affected. I'd rather they put in a discount for buying more gems in one go. Right now, it's the same price/gem no matter how many you buy. Like right now it's: * 800 gems for $10 or 80 gems/$1 * 1600 gems for $20 * 2800 gems for $35 * 4000 gems for $50 * 8000 gems for $100 It should be something like: * 800 gems for $10 or 80 gems/$1 * 1700 gems for $20 or 85 gems/$1 * 3150 gems for $35 or 90 gems/$1 * 4750 gems for $50 or 95 gems/$1 * 10,000 gems for $100 or 100 gems/$1 This benefits new players and old players equally and rewards players using real money to buy gems. Directly discounting on items in the store would reduce the number of players who spend money to buy gems - they'd be able to more easily farm the gold to convert to gems. Which doesn't earn ANet anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @Seera.5916 said: > No to discount purely based on age of account. > > It means that ANet will increase prices based on the average discount players get so that their bottom line isn't affected. > > I'd rather they put in a discount for buying more gems in one go. Right now, it's the same price/gem no matter how many you buy. > > Like right now it's: > * 800 gems for $10 or 80 gems/$1 > * 1600 gems for $20 > * 2800 gems for $35 > * 4000 gems for $50 > * 8000 gems for $100 > > It should be something like: > * 800 gems for $10 or 80 gems/$1 > * 1700 gems for $20 or 85 gems/$1 > * 3150 gems for $35 or 90 gems/$1 > * 4750 gems for $50 or 95 gems/$1 > * 10,000 gems for $100 or 100 gems/$1 > > This benefits new players and old players equally and rewards players using real money to buy gems. > > Directly discounting on items in the store would reduce the number of players who spend money to buy gems - they'd be able to more easily farm the gold to convert to gems. Which doesn't earn ANet anything. not depending this method.if people want to buy gold he still want to buy ,if he want' to buy gem he still want to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so maybe i ask how many 5years accnout ,and how much whant to play,and how much peiple Sent the money and give up thier own account > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to sites that sell games and google gw2 then look for used accounts. There are a bunch of them. A lot of people bought at launch and stopped playing. Many sell their accounts. This will make the old accounts that much more valuable and increase the number that are resold. > > > > > > > > > > so,ifold player will not change older,so news buy old account,why not good,there will be more player in gw2 > > > > > > > > Because ANet loses money if new accounts aren’t bought. > > > > ANet loses money if support gets involved > > > > ANet loses money when they give discounts to people who buy these accounts but haven’t supported the game for all these years. > > > > > > if u buy older account u will in game longer rifht??u will pay more money rifht??? > > > > Again. > > > > _ANet does not want people buying old accounts_. They don’t care if those people are in the game longer. They consider account reselling a type of theft as reselling is forbidden by the Terms of Service. Each resell is a direct loss of money to ANet (from a new account not being sold). > > > > ANet is not going to back an idea that increases account reselling even if they do later make a few bucks from the resold account. > srory ,nott translate Restating ANet does not want people buying old accounts. People buying old accounts is against ANet’s rules. People buying old accounts instead of new accounts makes ANet lose money If it’s against the rules ANet doesn’t care if they play longer. They lose a lot of money from new accounts not being sold. This discount will make old accounts more valuable and will increase the number of second hand accounts. There will be fewer new accounts. ANet will lose money and those old accounts are breaking the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @Seera.5916 said: > No to discount purely based on age of account. > > It means that ANet will increase prices based on the average discount players get so that their bottom line isn't affected. > > I'd rather they put in a discount for buying more gems in one go. Right now, it's the same price/gem no matter how many you buy. > > Like right now it's: > * 800 gems for $10 or 80 gems/$1 > * 1600 gems for $20 > * 2800 gems for $35 > * 4000 gems for $50 > * 8000 gems for $100 > > It should be something like: > * 800 gems for $10 or 80 gems/$1 > * 1700 gems for $20 or 85 gems/$1 > * 3150 gems for $35 or 90 gems/$1 > * 4750 gems for $50 or 95 gems/$1 > * 10,000 gems for $100 or 100 gems/$1 > > This benefits new players and old players equally and rewards players using real money to buy gems. > > Directly discounting on items in the store would reduce the number of players who spend money to buy gems - they'd be able to more easily farm the gold to convert to gems. Which doesn't earn ANet anything. depend on if or no he want to save money.before he not buy gold maybe 90%pecent he will not buy gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so maybe i ask how many 5years accnout ,and how much whant to play,and how much peiple Sent the money and give up thier own account > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to sites that sell games and google gw2 then look for used accounts. There are a bunch of them. A lot of people bought at launch and stopped playing. Many sell their accounts. This will make the old accounts that much more valuable and increase the number that are resold. > > > > > > > > > > > > so,ifold player will not change older,so news buy old account,why not good,there will be more player in gw2 > > > > > > > > > > Because ANet loses money if new accounts aren’t bought. > > > > > ANet loses money if support gets involved > > > > > ANet loses money when they give discounts to people who buy these accounts but haven’t supported the game for all these years. > > > > > > > > if u buy older account u will in game longer rifht??u will pay more money rifht??? > > > > > > Again. > > > > > > _ANet does not want people buying old accounts_. They don’t care if those people are in the game longer. They consider account reselling a type of theft as reselling is forbidden by the Terms of Service. Each resell is a direct loss of money to ANet (from a new account not being sold). > > > > > > ANet is not going to back an idea that increases account reselling even if they do later make a few bucks from the resold account. > > srory ,nott translate > > Restating > > ANet does not want people buying old accounts. > People buying old accounts is against ANet’s rules. > People buying old accounts instead of new accounts makes ANet lose money > If it’s against the rules ANet doesn’t care if they play longer. They lose a lot of money from new accounts not being sold. > > This discount will make old accounts more valuable and will increase the number of second hand accounts. ANet won’t want this. i repeat ,i said this beacuse 1 ask me if buy old account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairing.5832 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so maybe i ask how many 5years accnout ,and how much whant to play,and how much peiple Sent the money and give up thier own account > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to sites that sell games and google gw2 then look for used accounts. There are a bunch of them. A lot of people bought at launch and stopped playing. Many sell their accounts. This will make the old accounts that much more valuable and increase the number that are resold. > > > > > > > > > > > > so,ifold player will not change older,so news buy old account,why not good,there will be more player in gw2 > > > > > > > > > > Because ANet loses money if new accounts aren’t bought. > > > > > ANet loses money if support gets involved > > > > > ANet loses money when they give discounts to people who buy these accounts but haven’t supported the game for all these years. > > > > > > > > if u buy older account u will in game longer rifht??u will pay more money rifht??? > > > > > > Again. > > > > > > _ANet does not want people buying old accounts_. They don’t care if those people are in the game longer. They consider account reselling a type of theft as reselling is forbidden by the Terms of Service. Each resell is a direct loss of money to ANet (from a new account not being sold). > > > > > > ANet is not going to back an idea that increases account reselling even if they do later make a few bucks from the resold account. > > srory ,nott translate > > Restating > > ANet does not want people buying old accounts. > People buying old accounts is against ANet’s rules. > People buying old accounts instead of new accounts makes ANet lose money > If it’s against the rules ANet doesn’t care if they play longer. They lose a lot of money from new accounts not being sold. > > This discount will make old accounts more valuable and will increase the number of second hand accounts. There will be fewer new accounts. ANet will lose money and those old accounts are breaking the rules. u guys english worse than me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrdreth.6829 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so maybe i ask how many 5years accnout ,and how much whant to play,and how much peiple Sent the money and give up thier own account > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to sites that sell games and google gw2 then look for used accounts. There are a bunch of them. A lot of people bought at launch and stopped playing. Many sell their accounts. This will make the old accounts that much more valuable and increase the number that are resold. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so,ifold player will not change older,so news buy old account,why not good,there will be more player in gw2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Because ANet loses money if new accounts aren’t bought. > > > > > > ANet loses money if support gets involved > > > > > > ANet loses money when they give discounts to people who buy these accounts but haven’t supported the game for all these years. > > > > > > > > > > if u buy older account u will in game longer rifht??u will pay more money rifht??? > > > > > > > > Again. > > > > > > > > _ANet does not want people buying old accounts_. They don’t care if those people are in the game longer. They consider account reselling a type of theft as reselling is forbidden by the Terms of Service. Each resell is a direct loss of money to ANet (from a new account not being sold). > > > > > > > > ANet is not going to back an idea that increases account reselling even if they do later make a few bucks from the resold account. > > > srory ,nott translate > > > > Restating > > > > ANet does not want people buying old accounts. > > People buying old accounts is against ANet’s rules. > > People buying old accounts instead of new accounts makes ANet lose money > > If it’s against the rules ANet doesn’t care if they play longer. They lose a lot of money from new accounts not being sold. > > > > This discount will make old accounts more valuable and will increase the number of second hand accounts. There will be fewer new accounts. ANet will lose money and those old accounts are breaking the rules. > > u guys english worse than me??? Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Your idea will cause ANet to lose money from account reselling and you have not shown it will make anet more money on current players. You haven’t proven it works and you haven’t solved the problems pointed out. It’s a flawed suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 > @sairing.5832 said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @Myrdreth.6829 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @sairing.5832 said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > if u were sencond seleer ,will u give your accout to others???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You just answered your own question. If someone IS a seller of secondhand accounts, then yes of course they would give away/sell their accounts to others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if gw2 is your faverite will u sell???that's not main reason to sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People who love playing GW2 will NEVER sell their own account. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But some people get tired of the game and they want to make some money - so they sell their account (even though that's not allowed, but that's another discussion). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then there are people who don't play GW2 to actually play the game...they play the game for the sole purpose to earn money! Goldsellers, account sellers...THOSE people invest in an account, level it up and make it a good account - just to sell it to the highest bidder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so maybe i ask how many 5years accnout ,and how much whant to play,and how much peiple Sent the money and give up thier own account > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to sites that sell games and google gw2 then look for used accounts. There are a bunch of them. A lot of people bought at launch and stopped playing. Many sell their accounts. This will make the old accounts that much more valuable and increase the number that are resold. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so,ifold player will not change older,so news buy old account,why not good,there will be more player in gw2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Because ANet loses money if new accounts aren’t bought. > > > > > > ANet loses money if support gets involved > > > > > > ANet loses money when they give discounts to people who buy these accounts but haven’t supported the game for all these years. > > > > > > > > > > if u buy older account u will in game longer rifht??u will pay more money rifht??? > > > > > > > > Again. > > > > > > > > _ANet does not want people buying old accounts_. They don’t care if those people are in the game longer. They consider account reselling a type of theft as reselling is forbidden by the Terms of Service. Each resell is a direct loss of money to ANet (from a new account not being sold). > > > > > > > > ANet is not going to back an idea that increases account reselling even if they do later make a few bucks from the resold account. > > > srory ,nott translate > > > > Restating > > > > ANet does not want people buying old accounts. > > People buying old accounts is against ANet’s rules. > > People buying old accounts instead of new accounts makes ANet lose money > > If it’s against the rules ANet doesn’t care if they play longer. They lose a lot of money from new accounts not being sold. > > > > This discount will make old accounts more valuable and will increase the number of second hand accounts. There will be fewer new accounts. ANet will lose money and those old accounts are breaking the rules. > > u guys english worse than me??? My English is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 There's a simpler way of doing this that is vaguely more fair: include BL keys as part of the Anniversary gifts (rather than as just a promotion freebie from ANet 1-2x/year). It's a nice present for veterans without making new players feel that they are locked out of discounts just because they chose to join the game later. Alternatively, ANet could include something like the [black Lion Exclusives Chest](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Black_Lion_Exclusives_Chest) — that way, everyone would have access to 1-2 previously account-bound unlocks, without depending on RNG. But far, far better is for people to stop thinking of BL chests as anything other than what they are: a lotto ticket. The value is in the hope that one might get a lucky drop (spoiler alert: one might; it won't be you or I). Like all lotto in the history of the planet, most people get far, far less than they paid; only a tiny number get more and an astronomically low number get the jackpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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