Duzik.9137 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Yo PvP devs, add 1/2s cast time on every scourge skill except f5 and all problems will vanish, no unpredictable condy bombs, actually possibility to interrupt. Other way could be , you could limit condy aplication on a person 1skill per second , that would help against condy bomber classes overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertep.2498 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 good point to show condi power shit how is feeling power reaper where every his skill have so long cast time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MethaneGas.8357 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 > @Vertep.2498 said: > good point to show condi power kitten how is feeling power reaper where every his skill have so long cast time Power Reaper cast times = Condi Reaper cast times. A better comparison would be power Scourge vs. condi Scourge. As for nerfs... -Scourge already got a few hits recently. Dhuumfire (where almost all of the burns come from) seems to have an internal cooldown for Scourge (not sure if it's a bug or not) so they can't spam all skills to cause an instant burst with burns anymore. They have to wait a few secs between using each of their F-skills if they want the burns to happen. Again.. not sure if bug or not. -You can LOS their shades. So if you're standing in a shade... and the enemy scourge can't see you, the shade can't hurt you no matter how many buttons they mash. So yes... get out of the scourge's line of sight! :bleep_bloop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufo.3716 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Why is everybody complaining about scourge when mirage puts more condis quicker than a scourge can even dream of. 25 stacks of confusion plus a few others in less than 1 sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Or you could just stand on terrain slightly off-kilter from the Scourge itself and the shades can't hit you at all... "obstructed" "obstructed" "obstructed" "obstructed" "obstructed" "obstructed" "obstructed" "obstructed" "obstructed" Or play a Ranger and eliminate each scourge in less than 10 seconds, problem solved. What play a ranger?? Oh my I can't do that.. Rangers are useless...... um yea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duzik.9137 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 > @Rufo.3716 said: > Why is everybody complaining about scourge when mirage puts more condis quicker than a scourge can even dream of. 25 stacks of confusion plus a few others in less than 1 sec. Well , mesmer is not as deadly , cause it applys 2-3 condys , scourge applys like full list , and to clear right ones takes actually ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooglese.4860 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 > @Duzik.9137 said: > > @Rufo.3716 said: > > Why is everybody complaining about scourge when mirage puts more condis quicker than a scourge can even dream of. 25 stacks of confusion plus a few others in less than 1 sec. > Well , mesmer is not as deadly , cause it applys 2-3 condys , scourge applys like full list , and to clear right ones takes actually ages This and mirages don't have good condi clear themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 > @Hooglese.4860 said: > > @Duzik.9137 said: > > > @Rufo.3716 said: > > > Why is everybody complaining about scourge when mirage puts more condis quicker than a scourge can even dream of. 25 stacks of confusion plus a few others in less than 1 sec. > > Well , mesmer is not as deadly , cause it applys 2-3 condys , scourge applys like full list , and to clear right ones takes actually ages > > This and mirages don't have good condi clear themselves. They also don't cover entire point with death puddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paShadoWn.5723 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 > @Hooglese.4860 said: > > @Duzik.9137 said: > > > @Rufo.3716 said: > > > Why is everybody complaining about scourge when mirage puts more condis quicker than a scourge can even dream of. 25 stacks of confusion plus a few others in less than 1 sec. > > Well , mesmer is not as deadly , cause it applys 2-3 condys , scourge applys like full list , and to clear right ones takes actually ages > > This and mirages don't have good condi clear themselves. Lolwut? Instant aoe cleanse 3 and 3 conditions is not gud enuf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertep.2498 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 > @Rufo.3716 said: > Why is everybody complaining about scourge when mirage puts more condis quicker than a scourge can even dream of. 25 stacks of confusion plus a few others in less than 1 sec. yeah at all good point if you dont have more than 2 scourges in enemy team at all this isnt that horrible until they split on different point and you have nobody in group with who can attack from distance while mesmer just uhh..will bomb you without good visible alerts "dont stay here!" or something how we have this with scourge you can also kite scourge to force him to spam most of his skills around you and then can easier take down him whiel also mesmer just spam evade with stealth and target break and then bombing you from nowhere from stealth and this is just gg as you will waste more time and skills to attack nothing instead of mirage while almost all your attacks will hit this scourge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The issue with balance in PvP is not scourge or any other class spec. Class balance is focused on PvE and raids in particular. There are simply to little adjustments to make it "good" for PvP as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reukies.6418 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 > @Duzik.9137 said: > Yo PvP devs, add 1/2s cast time on every scourge skill except f5 and all problems will vanish, no unpredictable condy bombs, actually possibility to interrupt. > Other way could be , you could limit condy aplication on a person 1skill per second , that would help against condy bomber classes overall They have a hidden ICD from what I have heard in terms of putting condis. Seems like it is 1s long. Spamming f1-4skill one after the other really fast = 1 or 2 condi's, while f1>1sec>2>1sec>f3>1sec>f4 put on all 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfric.9380 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 What is more fearsome is if the oposing team has two scourges AND a portal chrono/mirrage .... well just the FB on top and .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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