ArthurDent.9538 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 ^^^^^ title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miaz.8521 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 ban entire hot and pof from ranked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwelgm.4315 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 It's even funnier considering devs are completely silent about the (game breaking in PvE) obstruction of shades when the Necro has no line of sight with target. So basically they made a spec that's so powerful in PvP it can still rule with a game breaking bug that makes it _literally unplayable_ in PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 > @Miaz.8521 said: > ban entire hot and pof from ranked Yes, make ranked games core specs only, leave HoT and PoF specs for hotjoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotASmurf.1725 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 > @Miaz.8521 said: > ban entire hot and pof from ranked The only thing that could make me reinstall. Not spend money on this abomination of a game, no, but at least sometimes participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 > @Malediktus.9250 said: > > @Miaz.8521 said: > > ban entire hot and pof from ranked > Yes, make ranked games core specs only, leave HoT and PoF specs for hotjoin So basically you want to ban everything but thief, ele, guardian, and warrior. There is a much larger imbalance between core specs than there is between elite specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darek.1836 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 > @Crinn.7864 said: > > @Malediktus.9250 said: > > > @Miaz.8521 said: > > > ban entire hot and pof from ranked > > Yes, make ranked games core specs only, leave HoT and PoF specs for hotjoin > > So basically you want to ban everything but thief, ele, guardian, and warrior. > > There is a much larger imbalance between core specs than there is between elite specs. > yeah mantra mes, corrupt necro, condi engi, longbow and trap ranger are all trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledavi.1803 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 > @NotASmurf.1725 said: > > @Miaz.8521 said: > > ban entire hot and pof from ranked > > The only thing that could make me reinstall. > > Not spend money on this abomination of a game, no, but at least sometimes participate. why do I have this feeling that you didn't actually uninstall? Every mmo has issues with PVP, check the WoW, LoL boards and its the same mix of complainers, legitimate concerns, helpful suggestions, and ridiculous posts about the 'death of the game'. Yet millions still play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miaz.8521 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 GW2 isn't nowhere near close to playerbase levels of WoW and LoL and has less population than eso or ffxiv. add to that the fact taht focus of the game is pve and you're left with a very small percentage of playerbase being actual pvp players. Just check PvP forums they're pretty much dead with 100 of the same people posting here. Dedicating time to this dead game mode is just pointless due to how braindead the game has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 > @Darek.1836 said: > > @Crinn.7864 said: > > > @Malediktus.9250 said: > > > > @Miaz.8521 said: > > > > ban entire hot and pof from ranked > > > Yes, make ranked games core specs only, leave HoT and PoF specs for hotjoin > > > > So basically you want to ban everything but thief, ele, guardian, and warrior. > > > > There is a much larger imbalance between core specs than there is between elite specs. > > > > yeah mantra mes, corrupt necro, condi engi, longbow and trap ranger are all trash Huh... yes they are, as long you are comparing them to Retal Medi Guard, MMR Warrior, Sc/F FA Ele and d/p CS/DA Thief which are core builds that are actually competitive. Also, I find funny you mention Mantra Mesmer when Hamonious Mantra no longer exist. That build is officially dead and buried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 > @Miaz.8521 said: > ban entire hot and pof from ranked B I N G O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerotheFang.5890 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 this is stupid you might as well be saying ban condi then we just end up going back to ham bow warrior and team with most stuns wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalrat.5493 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I am not in favor of seeing ranked play go all vanilla. I like the flavor and diversity of the new specs. ...but damn if A. Net didn't just go bananas with this whole power creep thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minion.1987 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 rank means nothing. can't out smart the team you lose. other team is better you lose. as for scourge can't get on point out smart and go to others but if other team is better you're not going to get anywhere. if you get stuck against more than one good luck with that cause now they can camp more than one point if done right and if the people aren't bad with scourge. people can be high ranked and still do bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.4836 said: > > @Hooglese.4860 said: > > > This isn't true. The higher the rank you are, the harder scourge is to beat. At low ranks people faceroll scourge, but don't know the game so they lose regardless due to bad rotations. > > The higher rank you are, the more you know that scourage is easy to beat, because you're a better player... You wouldn't have gotten there if you just gave up like every-other gold monkey complaining about scourages' low skill floor. Scourge is a stronger at high rank. Because at high rank, the scourges actually know how to kite, do fear chains, and land ghastly breach combos. Not to mention at high rank people will peel for the scourge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.4836 said: > > @Hooglese.4860 said: > > > This isn't true. The higher the rank you are, the harder scourge is to beat. At low ranks people faceroll scourge, but don't know the game so they lose regardless due to bad rotations. > > The higher rank you are, the more you know that scourage is easy to beat, because you're a better player... You wouldn't have gotten there if you just gave up like every-other gold monkey complaining about scourages' low skill floor. Scourge is ridiculous at high ranks, they can literally walk to any point to +1, force a decap/cap, and walk away and no one can do anything about it because in plat, people peel and support correctly and the Scourge's know how to actually use their skills properly. Not to mention they are like a nuclear warhead in a team fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal.1768 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Actually, you can beat higher ranked Scourge by kiting them with ranger or tank 'em with Bunker Guardian with full condi cleanse (sigil, mender, even meditations). P.s. I am the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyzE.3472 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 > @Cynz.9437 said: > > @IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.4836 said: > > Another thread crying because they're skill capped Zzz. Scourage isn't that hard to beat. Stop trying to nerf the game and ruin it for people just because you're inept. > > Oh look another IIIIIIIIIIII post defending scourges! > > As for topic: scourges won't be banned, it would be admitting that they made bad spec. It will see nerfs eventually, just like with revs when enough players bought HoT. Careful there, he might find you in-game and whisper how wrong you are! Talking from my experience.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abazigal.3679 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Banning scourge itself anyway won't solve the problem. So far, i don't even feel like playing tournaments anymore because it isn't fun facing scourges + firebrands + spellbreakers over and over. You cannot experiment setups, different builds without losing 500-50 rather easily at any mistake. Also, i noticed many people tend to give up really quickly, not because they're done, but because there is simply no solution to win.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedCoffee.1402 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Scourge isn't the problem. Mirage is the problem. Wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Why ban them? Not everyone has issues beating them :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 > @Crinn.7864 said: > > @Malediktus.9250 said: > > > @Miaz.8521 said: > > > ban entire hot and pof from ranked > > Yes, make ranked games core specs only, leave HoT and PoF specs for hotjoin > > So basically you want to ban everything but thief, ele, guardian, and warrior. > > There is a much larger imbalance between core specs than there is between elite specs. > Much easier to rebalance the core specs after if you do not have to take the elite specs into account anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volrath.1473 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 just fix scourge and mirage and we'll all be able to play the game again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexan.5930 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Lol, please play a scourge and get focused by 4 people at the same time and not have the invulnerability that so many other classes have and then tell me they still need a need. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshade.2570 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Scourge has no stability, if you get away from us, we can not catch you, if you hit us with cc we will fall down over and over. We have one skill which may or may not be on the utility bar that gives us stability. So if your mele, start a cc chain if your distance just hit us from far away we will be dead by the time we get to you. You need to understand that necro would be worthless without its current skills and in fact wiped out of pvp and wvw. Then you will all just be complaining about other overpowered classes that have no counter anymore. Such as firebrand, mirage ect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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