Dual.8953 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I see this mostly with the Griffon skins but can something be done about the red base coat of the mount skins? I'm finding it really annoying if you're trying to give your mount a colour scheme that incorporates any cooler colours. https://imgur.com/a/BmUNs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzTnT.7198 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Agreed. Makes the affected skins look really cheap on top of limiting the customization. The main reason i got the pack of those skins is for the customization so this makes the griffon skins disappointing to say the least. Hopefully it can be fixed however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldirtbeard.9834 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Exactly we pay good money for customization and these red lines detract from the value of our purchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Spiro.9745 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Use a different color. I've had no issues coloring each mount with any color by finding the right version of that color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saranos.9703 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I finally managed to dye my griffon to something I like but for a while I found myself preferring the original skin due to this issue. If, like the op, you want an entirely white griffon you cannot just use another colour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Some dyes doesn't show the lines. I don't know the criteria, though, it just seem random, and there isn't many of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo G.4501 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Sounds like a bug. I hope they fix it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionka.6897 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 This has bugged me so much, that something otherwise so well designed seems to have this texture flaw.. We don't have lines on armors and gliders that are dyable, the other mounts don't have this problem that I've seen, it seems to be exclusively a griffon issue. It's like it's forcing you to make dark/light contrasts, just so it's not glaringly noticeable, and even then, it's needing to be orange or red or purple to blend in. If there must be an undertone there for shading reasons, can't it be a more neutral medium tone grey instead of this reddish hue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharuStar.4109 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I've noticed this for awhile and it is honestly a bit of a turn off when it comes to these new skins. I had hopes to make a solid colored black griffon, but the black/red looking theme just doesn't work well. I do hope this gets fixed in the future for all the mounts with this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taelac.7036 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 > @"Zionka.6897" said: > This has bugged me so much, that something otherwise so well designed seems to have this texture flaw.. We don't have lines on armors and gliders that are dyable, the other mounts don't have this problem that I've seen, it seems to be exclusively a griffon issue. It's not just griffons--I've had it on all five mounts with both the Spooky and the Wintersday skins, depending on the dyes used. It has required a lot of fiddling and scrapping some desired dye combinations altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcifer.5198 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 It is the worst on the griffon but also shows up on the elonian jackalope and others. I spent a LOT of real life cash on these skins, and this red problem really irks me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asum.4960 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 These red shades and lines have been on some Armor pieces as well, which hasn't been fixed in over 5 years now, so don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Don't quote me on this, but I always assumed it was an alpha problem. Anyone who deals with 3D models and texturing know what alphas and channels are. The problem is they're making the outline of the alphas into red and not something that would make more sense like black or something. The next issue is the alpha box is way too small and should be widened a bit. > @"Asum.4960" said: > These red shades and lines have been on some Armor pieces as well, which hasn't been fixed in over 5 years now, so don't hold your breath. There's one light armour piece for females that the panties on the back have a very long red upside-down triangle at the back of it. The only easy example I can think of. Forgot which armour(s) it's on as I usually try to keep away from panty-clothing as I don't want to look like a Kasmeer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asum.4960 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > Don't quote me on this, but I always assumed it was an alpha problem. > Anyone who deals with 3D models and texturing know what alphas and channels are. > > The problem is they're making the outline of the alphas into red and not something that would make more sense like black or something. > The next issue is the alpha box is way too small and should be widened a bit. > > > @"Asum.4960" said: > > These red shades and lines have been on some Armor pieces as well, which hasn't been fixed in over 5 years now, so don't hold your breath. > > There's one light armour piece for females that the panties on the back have a very long red upside-down triangle at the back of it. The only easy example I can think of. Forgot which armour(s) it's on as I usually try to keep away from panty-clothing as I don't want to look like a Kasmeer. I only have male characters, so my experience is with those only, especially Light and Medium ones. Stuff like Male Sneakthief Armour comes to mind, which had this issue for years. I'm not sure if some of those have been fixed or if it just doesn't show up in previews. Half the male Light Armour Pants have that issue as well with dark colours. Deciding on a look for my Thief and Necro, which tend to be dyed in dark colours, has always been half which armour set I like, and half which isn't riddled with red lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Asum.4960" said: > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > Don't quote me on this, but I always assumed it was an alpha problem. > > Anyone who deals with 3D models and texturing know what alphas and channels are. > > > > The problem is they're making the outline of the alphas into red and not something that would make more sense like black or something. > > The next issue is the alpha box is way too small and should be widened a bit. > > > > > @"Asum.4960" said: > > > These red shades and lines have been on some Armor pieces as well, which hasn't been fixed in over 5 years now, so don't hold your breath. > > > > There's one light armour piece for females that the panties on the back have a very long red upside-down triangle at the back of it. The only easy example I can think of. Forgot which armour(s) it's on as I usually try to keep away from panty-clothing as I don't want to look like a Kasmeer. > > I only have male characters, so my experience is with those only, especially Light and Medium ones. > > Stuff like Male Sneakthief Armour comes to mind, which had this issue for years. I'm not sure if some of those have been fixed or if it just doesn't show up in previews. > Half the male Light Armour Pants have that issue as well with dark colours. > > Deciding on a look for my Thief and Necro, which tend to be dyed in dark colours, has always been half which armour set I like, and half which isn't riddled with red lines. Made a quick character to show the example on just one of the panty outfits (as I'm not going to transmutate my character into this thing just for a screenshot) https://i.imgur.com/LbtCGqu.jpg And yes, that's right on the beginning outfit you get. I've seen it on others just as bad too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterforGw.3149 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Asum.4960" said: > These red shades and lines have been on some Armor pieces as well, which hasn't been fixed in over 5 years now, so don't hold your breath. Anet is almost digging their own grave this way, people will stop buying, and maybe even stop playing the game over things such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"CharterforGw.3149" said: > > @"Asum.4960" said: > > These red shades and lines have been on some Armor pieces as well, which hasn't been fixed in over 5 years now, so don't hold your breath. > > Anet is almost digging their own grave this way, people will stop buying, and maybe even stop playing the game over things such as this. Stop playing? I doubt it. Stop buying? Probably. Armour you can argue is into the game itself that is part of a package so they can say they don't need to fix/change. BUT for the mount skins you have to buy separately and directly outside of the main content of the core/expansion games and it's not working as they thought it would work with those red alpha lining everywhere... then they might give up buying those skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taygus.4571 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Dual.8953" said: > I see this mostly with the Griffon skins but can something be done about the red base coat of the mount skins? I'm finding it really annoying if you're trying to give your mount a colour scheme that incorporates any cooler colours. > https://imgur.com/a/BmUNs > ..ah I thought it was the paticular skin...i only have the xmas ones, and the snowflakes seem to have a red outline on some dyes... I guess this isn't intended? I do hope they fix it, the red outline is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharuStar.4109 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Took time to pick out the more obvious examples for the Springer for those who were a bit curious. I still need to try out the other mounts but this is definitely an eye sore.![](https://i.imgur.com/Ec9nn0w.png "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Kal Spiro.9745" said: > Use a different color. I've had no issues coloring each mount with any color by finding the right version of that color. That's beside the point. They should really fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarfairy.8046 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Yeah there is a skimmer skin that it looks dreadful on. I was trying to style all my mounts with my necro and go with a purple theme but the red makes it look really gaudy. I did manage to find some dyes I didn't mind too much but it would be nice if they fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Kal Spiro.9745" said: > Use a different color. I've had no issues coloring each mount with any color by finding the right version of that color. Tell me which black works? > @"CharuStar.4109" said: > Took time to pick out the more obvious examples for the Springer for those who were a bit curious. I still need to try out the other mounts but this is definitely an eye sore.![](https://i.imgur.com/Ec9nn0w.png "") > You say eyesore, but look at the 2nd Springer... that LOOKS like an actual sore. Not sure what happened to that Springer, but someone really need to get it to a vet to check out that horrible rash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taygus.4571 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > @"Kal Spiro.9745" said: > > Use a different color. I've had no issues coloring each mount with any color by finding the right version of that color. > > Tell me which black works? > > @"CharuStar.4109" said: > > Took time to pick out the more obvious examples for the Springer for those who were a bit curious. I still need to try out the other mounts but this is definitely an eye sore.![](https://i.imgur.com/Ec9nn0w.png "") > > > > You say eyesore, but look at the 2nd Springer... that LOOKS like an actual sore. Not sure what happened to that Springer, but someone really need to get it to a vet to check out that horrible rash. I actually think the patterning on that second springer is kinda cool. But definitely not if you can't control the color of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharuStar.4109 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > You say eyesore, but look at the 2nd Springer... that LOOKS like an actual sore. Not sure what happened to that Springer, but someone really need to get it to a vet to check out that horrible rash. Now that you mention it that's kinda what it looks like. That poor Springer...I swear my mounts are well taken care of lol. > @"Taygus.4571" said: > I actually think the patterning on that second springer is kinda cool. But definitely not if you can't control the color of it. Yeah, it is unfortunate that it cannot be altered in any way, especially when you're trying to use any sort of solid color design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Spiro.9745 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > @"Kal Spiro.9745" said: > > Use a different color. I've had no issues coloring each mount with any color by finding the right version of that color. > > Tell me which black works? Ok, so after experimenting a bit, yeah. Shadow Abyss is the blackest black and on every mount there is a red tinge that is still visible. I'd never tried to make a pure black mount. Every other color is doable, but black less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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