trueanimus.4085 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Scourge has NO burst damage now at ALL... F2 F3 and F4 have no burst damage at all on activation... and F5 says 17x 1600 or something.. but hits for 200? WTF... Seriously... so we have NO BURST at all now?? Even marks burst damage got removed and NONE of this was in the patch notes... Stealth nerf ?? Or Bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 ANET has made it clear with this patch that burst is supposed to come from power. Scourge is not an elite geared towards power damage. If you want burst, go play Reaper, or any other profession that has a kit geared towards power damage. Not every spec has to be viable with Condi, Support, AND Power - and not many are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotfear.6493 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 fuck condi, u deserve this nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBoopBop.5403 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 If you want burst play power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"Turk.5460" said: > ANET has made it clear with this patch that burst is supposed to come from power. Scourge is not an elite geared towards power damage. If you want burst, go play Reaper, or any other profession that has a kit geared towards power damage. Not every spec has to be viable with Condi, Support, AND Power - and not many are. And with the larger balance patch pushing reaper back to power out of condi (mostly) showed they were probably moving in this direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szshou.2193 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 17x 1600 means it hits 17 times for a total of 1600, why is that so hard to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeSystm.1256 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"szshou.2193" said: > 17x 1600 means it hits 17 times for a total of 1600, why is that so hard to understand How many years into the game and people dont know this? These are the people who play wvw. :astonished: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbah.3102 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"trueanimus.4085" said: > Scourge has NO burst damage now at ALL... F2 F3 and F4 have no burst damage at all on activation... and F5 says 17x 1600 or something.. but hits for 200? kitten... Seriously... so we have NO BURST at all now?? Even marks burst damage got removed and NONE of this was in the patch notes... Stealth nerf ?? Or Bug? This is my sad face :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueanimus.4085 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"szshou.2193" said: > 17x 1600 means it hits 17 times for a total of 1600, why is that so hard to understand yes.. but im not seeing ANY numbers over 400.. my marks used to activate for at least 1200 (which is pitiful but as condi to be expected) now they do nothing... no burst at all.. this was not in the patch notes so i want to know if this is a bug or intentional nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge.9730 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"trueanimus.4085" said: > > @"szshou.2193" said: > > 17x 1600 means it hits 17 times for a total of 1600, why is that so hard to understand > > yes.. but im not seeing ANY numbers over 400.. my marks used to activate for at least 1200 (which is pitiful but as condi to be expected) now they do nothing... no burst at all.. this was not in the patch notes so i want to know if this is a bug or intentional nerf Are you actively trying to troll or do you truly not understand the patch notes and the changes they bring? What you are describing is exactly what should be happening per the notes provided and the tool tip info you pasted in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"trueanimus.4085" said: > > @"szshou.2193" said: > > 17x 1600 means it hits 17 times for a total of 1600, why is that so hard to understand > > yes.. but im not seeing ANY numbers over 400.. my marks used to activate for at least 1200 (which is pitiful but as condi to be expected) now they do nothing... no burst at all.. this was not in the patch notes so i want to know if this is a bug or intentional nerf And if you spec' power your 'burst' on marks would be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avigrus.2871 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I think he's referring to the physical skill damage that is applied on activation. Eg, Mark of Blood will drop 2 bleeds (or whatever pitiful amount it does), but the skill will also apply power damage when the target is hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenaos.8160 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I played a few PvP matches on my Scourge after the patch,and I don't see any difference in DPS. Our boon corrupt was not affected by the changes,and that was and still is the source of most of our damage. And the revision of Barrier gave us even better sustain,or at least so it seems to me. The barrier component of Scourge skills seems to be more effective at mitigating damage. So if that is the case in PvP, I imagine in WvW with better attributes and food available,we are even stronger than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan.3472 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Can we go back playing melee again now ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne.6140 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"Titan.3472" said: > Can we go back playing melee again now ??? Yes. Of course. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrolan.9608 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So Scourge now become the supportive spec they were always meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick.8967 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 It's still condi hell in wvw with all that corrupt going on plus bubbles and other mess all over the field- it just now takes you 2 seconds to die from condi instead of 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatsu.9416 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Was fighting scourge and you can still get burst if things land a few times and it ramps up, it's still pretty strong. Just play careful in the beginning and overwhelm the opponent once they're out of Condi cleanse etc. I like this scourge, the ramp up delay is there but it's not too long. The pressure is still strong. That's how Condi should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueanimus.4085 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Sarge.9730" said: > > @"trueanimus.4085" said: > > > @"szshou.2193" said: > > > 17x 1600 means it hits 17 times for a total of 1600, why is that so hard to understand > > > > yes.. but im not seeing ANY numbers over 400.. my marks used to activate for at least 1200 (which is pitiful but as condi to be expected) now they do nothing... no burst at all.. this was not in the patch notes so i want to know if this is a bug or intentional nerf > > Are you actively trying to troll or do you truly not understand the patch notes and the changes they bring? What you are describing is exactly what should be happening per the notes provided and the tool tip info you pasted in. No.. they said nothing about nerfing the on activation damage.. just lowering the stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbah.3102 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"trueanimus.4085" said: > > @"Sarge.9730" said: > > > @"trueanimus.4085" said: > > > > @"szshou.2193" said: > > > > 17x 1600 means it hits 17 times for a total of 1600, why is that so hard to understand > > > > > > yes.. but im not seeing ANY numbers over 400.. my marks used to activate for at least 1200 (which is pitiful but as condi to be expected) now they do nothing... no burst at all.. this was not in the patch notes so i want to know if this is a bug or intentional nerf > > > > Are you actively trying to troll or do you truly not understand the patch notes and the changes they bring? What you are describing is exactly what should be happening per the notes provided and the tool tip info you pasted in. > > No.. they said nothing about nerfing the on activation damage.. just lowering the stacks. This is still my sad face :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 If this is the case, then Anet should remove resistance then. There is no sense in having condition damage subject to complete immunity and no burst application. If damage has been lowered in such a way, then there is no need for resistance anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 condi is still good if spammed as one. melee options are now viable. you can still play the role of scourge but cele is now.the better.gear. so you can switch to reaper or scourge if yoir team needs barriers or.damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offair.2563 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 "anet nerfed mah ez mode...UNFAIR" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinens.5920 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Play power silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"DeadlySynz.3471" said: > If this is the case, then Anet should remove resistance then. There is no sense in having condition damage subject to complete immunity and no burst application. If damage has been lowered in such a way, then there is no need for resistance anymore. Easy to tell scourge bandwagoners,Necro corrupts boons on auto as well as in like 8 ither skills as well as strip boons on like 4 more other skills then traits too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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