breno.5423 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Pictures taken today. Nothing has changed anet. ![](https://i.imgur.com/txyErwG.jpg "") ![](https://i.imgur.com/h6YQat1.jpg "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choovanski.5462 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 everything is fine reroll firebrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"choovanski.5462" said: > everything is fine > > reroll firebrand This burn came from a dragonhunter in the first picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Seems like you got hit with alot of conditions and didn't cleanse them, inno 60 hits is alot of hits. You should prolly cleanse those condition, they might actually kill you after some time. Wanna show us your utility bar for that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Is it 2015 again? Since condition types are standardized across classes and skills, and are lumped together, conditions will pretty much always be at the top of the death's breakdown. If conditions on the death breakdown where split based on the skill that applied them, then you would not see so many condis on your death breakdown. Besides the Death Breakdown is rarely accurate. For example yesterday I was playing my ele and was fighting a far node 1v1 against a warrior, and was easily able to sustain through all of the warrior stuff. Then a thief came in and instantly vaporized me. Did any of the thief's skills show on my death breakdown? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choovanski.5462 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"breno.5423" said: > > @"choovanski.5462" said: > > everything is fine > > > > reroll firebrand > > This burn came from a dragonhunter in the first picture. I'm joking around dude I'm suggesting you reroll to firebrand because it's the only thing that lives vs condi spam in current meta. /// as an aside, those post death logs are actually a terrible way to evaluate what's OP. regardless, both of the classes that run condi in the current meta, scourge and mirage are both OP. but on the other hand, burn guard wasn't that good pre patch- and was nerfed heavily in the patch. so if burn guard is giving you issues, and you're not playing rev you have issues my dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Hey, OP can you show us your utility bar for those games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Genesis.5169" said: > Hey, OP can you show us your utility bar for those games? Well he is definitely a thief, and judging from where he died he is probably using a melee weaponset. Most likely a typical d/p setup, possibly s/d. In the second picture he downed the necro he was fighting, but then was downed himself by the necro's downstate and then lost the downstate fight. In the first pic he died to a x/sh + x/Torch burn DH. I'm not sure how a thief managed to get hit by Zealot's Fire in the first pic. Zealot's Fire struggles to hit any kind of moving target, let alone a target as mobile a s a thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"Genesis.5169" said: > Hey, OP can you show us your utility bar for those games? Mah build > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYVn8lClOhFOBGNB8PhFYCb+DWCThaJgAQBwLNcGGRA-jpxBQBi7QAAgHAQF3fAolB84JAADHBAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 I don't have trouble with burn guardian, just saying that nothing has changed, especially about scourge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choovanski.5462 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"breno.5423" said: > > @"Genesis.5169" said: > > Hey, OP can you show us your utility bar for those games? > > Mah build > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAsYVn8lClOhFOBGNB8PhFYCb+DWCThaJgAQBwLNcGGRA-jpxBQBi7QAAgHAQF3fAolB84JAADHBAA wow. a condi thief complaining about condi ![](https://i.imgur.com/8jd6bJG.gif "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Actually i'm main holo in my main account, this is my alt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Anyway, i'm pretty sure theres many people feeling forced to play cond because its broken. I play zerker mostly, cond thief is just for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morwath.9817 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"breno.5423" said: > Anyway, i'm pretty sure theres many people feeling forced to play cond because its broken. I play zerker mostly, cond thief is just for fun. Ooo, Quaggan can't wait when some guy jumps in and throw "I play zerker mostly, Mirage of Scrooge McDuck is only for fun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 As i said, i don't play cond in my main account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Now i'm playing warrior > ![](https://i.imgur.com/e4VWsjT.jpg "") Got 32 stacks of confusion in a second > ![](https://i.imgur.com/5AruBKu.jpg?1 "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitali.5039 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"Crinn.7864" said: > In the first pic he died to a x/sh + x/Torch burn DH. I'm not sure how a thief managed to get hit by Zealot's Fire in the first pic. Zealot's Fire struggles to hit any kind of moving target, let alone a target as mobile a s a thief. > Maybe Judge's Intervention while throwing Zealot's Fire. Paired with Focus n°5 (Shield of Wrath) is a good burst combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"breno.5423" said: > > @"choovanski.5462" said: > > everything is fine > > > > reroll firebrand > > This burn came from a dragonhunter in the first picture. Unthinkable, Mirage and Scourge are the ONLY condi builds anyone plays, condi is so suppressed and power is to op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Not sure why you are dying with Shadowstep, Signet, IS and EA for cleanse. I have seen a surprising number of thieves with signet on their bar simply fail to use it. Also not sure why you are trying to 1v1 a DH as a Daredevil. Probably a waste of time given that two of your team were dead/about to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MethaneGas.8357 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 LOL.... you realize that what you posted is basically all the damage of that type (burning, bleed, etc.) lumped up together, right? So from all sources. Ok so.. before dying, in your first screenshot, OP, you took 60 hits of burning. **_SIXTY HITS!!!!!!!!!!!_** *calms down * okay. So the average damage per hit is, yes-you-guessed-it 780 damage per hit. Wow such damage. Now imagine you take 60 hits of power damage from a power spec. How much damage would that amount to? 70,000? 100,000? You're basically dead. I'm not even gonna mention your second screenshot (ok maybe I will), where you also take 60 hits from burns and 66 hits from torment.... and the average burn damage is 600 per hit, and average torment damage is 250 per hit. Now once again, imagine being hit 126 times (60+66) with power damage skills. Would you be dead? Of course you would :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 They should now remove traits which enhance condi durability and expertise. The patch itself is good, but they didn't consider this part imho. edit: nevermind, the patch did nothing. Still die in 5 sec with a 33% + 20% condi dmg reduction ( vs 1 single player ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 You guys know that number of hits counts like 10 hits in a second based in the number of stacks you got, right? (10 stacks = 10 hits per second, for example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breno.5423 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 And all these conds came from a single person in all screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zintrothen.1056 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 55630. Was all that damage from one fight? Because I want to know how you tanked that much damage as a thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 ' **The truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself** ' You are absolutely correct! Anet changed Nothing to make the game fun, healthy, competitive and rewarding. (what has changed after the 'condition balance' patch? Absolutely Nothing!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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