jihm.2315 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 they are still overpowered they need fixing double scourge teams dominate decent teams without a scourge without an effort at all its only balanced when there is double scourge vs double scourge some people will pick the most game breaking class but arena net you are the first responsible for this mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderzShadow.2506 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I am not a great player by any means. I've hovered between gold and plat the last 2 seasons. (not saying much) But, I can rip a scourge a new asshole with a marauder/paladin soulbeast longbow build. So look, you're already playing a ranger. Either roll a Vanilla Ranger Or a soulbeast Ranger--and go tear it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Don't roll a core ranger against a condi heavy spec. Good lord don't roll a core ranger against a condi heavy spec. Pick either Druid, or better yet Soulbeast. ~ Kovu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithranArkanere.8957 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 They are not overpowered. They work too well too often. Specially in conquest where you win the longer you can stand in a circle and keep others from standing in there. That isn't exactly overpowered. Defeating them isn't hard, but they can keep others from the points with relative ease. As I see it, the solution is rather simple, and it doesn't really require chaging scourge: * Incremental death timers. Defeating a scourge isn't too hard if you ready a build for it at the start of a match. But they can very quickly run back and push you out of the point before you can cap it, and still get more score from the point while they are hogging it than you can get from quickly killing them over and over. Change death timers to be longer and longer the more you die, and being bad players that die too often gets properly punished, and taking them out from outside the point becomes the very viable tactic that it should have always been. Even if it's just +1 second for each defeat it would be enough to offset how fast a mindless unkilled spaming scourge can just stroll back from the base after being defeated and still keep the point just from the time they can stay alive spammity-spamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Smiles.8951 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 > @"Kovu.7560" said: > Don't roll a core ranger against a condi heavy spec. > Good lord don't roll a core ranger against a condi heavy spec. > > Pick either Druid, or better yet Soulbeast. > > ~ Kovu Since when core ranger with WS line weak to condis? You can have lots of clear, some of which is instant. You can also add BM line with "lesser quickening zephyr" to insta cleanse 2 condis on pet swap, gain superspeed to disengage a bit and quickness to cast your healing skill faster. NM line offers some cleanse on dodge as well. Can also use the signet. And if you run longbow with its 1500 range you shouldn't get condibombed at all in the first place. From my experience vanilla power ranger is one of the easiest way to kill a scourge, can do well vs mirage too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jihm.2315 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 those who defend the scourge are either scourge players or arena net employees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shox.1586 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 What?ranger,mesmer and good warriors makes scourge to rage quit,also the most request class atm in plat at least is FB,if you have one you can win,if not . .just wipe on points.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 > @"shox.1586" said: > What?ranger,mesmer and good warriors makes scourge to rage quit,also the most request class atm in plat at least is FB,if you have one you can win,if not . .just wipe on points.. Lol, good warriors? scourges eat warriors like they are not even there, you are really out of touch with pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe.1807 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Anet show that they have no idea on how to balance this mess, the solution is really easy actually, they just must admit that Scourge the way we have now was a huge mistake, and remove it from Ranked games. Easy fix, they can do the same with Mirages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithwicks.8514 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I thought people learned by now that the problem isn't Scourge itself, it's Scourge+Firebrand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 yeah scourge is just a bane for melee classes really. if u are not a spellbreaker u better watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorazin.4107 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Scourge pushes so many things out of the meta because you cant get close. Any melee classes get condi bombed into oblivion, any spec that pushes a whole raft of classes/specs out of the meta needs changing. Theres a reason you see so many Scourges, and it's got nothing to do with players new found love with a death thematic for their characters. By comparison how many spirit Rangers do you see, none, because they are shit. I dont think the problem is limited to Scourge, Mirage, SB, FB are all over performing compared to the HoT specs and core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jihm.2315 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 yeah no reason to try to point them out the obvious any more they seem to do not care at the end of the day its their game and they cana do whatever they want with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe.1807 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 > @"Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318" said: > yeah scourge is just a bane for melee classes really. if u are not a spellbreaker u better watch out. I know that Spellbreaker pre-nerf was unstoppable, but SB post-nerf can actually fight a Scourge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetopat.7921 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Good thing control points arnt the only map you can pvp on. Would sure suck to only have one mode that relies on capture point as big as scourge aoe to capture to win the games. Praise be GW2 and tired joki memes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 > @"Felipe.1807" said: > > @"Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318" said: > > yeah scourge is just a bane for melee classes really. if u are not a spellbreaker u better watch out. > > I know that Spellbreaker pre-nerf was unstoppable, but SB post-nerf can actually fight a Scourge? kinda, still a losign match-up but yeah if u are good u can kinda pull out a miracle as opposed to the vast majority of melee classes that get destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 > @"shox.1586" said: > What?ranger,mesmer and good warriors makes scourge to rage quit,also the most request class atm in plat at least is FB,if you have one you can win,if not . .just wipe on points.. A scourge that loses to a warrior is a very bad scourge. Knowing when to corrupt resistance is 101 basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velimere.7685 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 > @"Master Ketsu.4569" said: > > @"shox.1586" said: > > What?ranger,mesmer and good warriors makes scourge to rage quit,also the most request class atm in plat at least is FB,if you have one you can win,if not . .just wipe on points.. > > A scourge that loses to a warrior is a very bad scourge. > > Knowing when to corrupt resistance is 101 basics. > Basically this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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