Oglaf.1074 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Yeah, dingus isn't the word I want to use - just imagine another word starting with that letter. In HoT he cared deeply for the plight of the "common man" affected by Modremoth. The plight of the natives in each of the HoT map seemed to be a big concern for him. In PoF he is rude and condescending instead. He berates a guard for not wanting to charge head-long into camp of Forged soldiers. Really? His general attitude and tone of voice also changed to reflect this - instead of the noble Norn I'm used to he has turned into a brutish oaf! What happened to my character?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardenwolfe.8590 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Given that the Commander has dealt with back to back to back disasters, I'd be a little short too. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weo weo.6378 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 He is a norn, he was always a brutish oaf :^) Jokes aside, maybe it's a nice way to show the commander's gradual weariness of the whole apocalyptic scenario. A change from the altruistic commander to a jaded battle weary warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardenwolfe.8590 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Exactly. And being blamed for the death of a certain hero by her son is the proverbial cherry. I'm still waiting for the Commander to get fed up and tell someone off. I think more than a few people want to see that confrontation given what's happened in Living World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Simple: They're not our troops, and not our responsibility. We've had an entire living season where everyone has failed to do their jobs; maybe the Poohbah is just sick and tired of picking up everyone else's slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottsgman.8206 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 maybe the commander got really sick of thinking of everyone else, seeing as everyone else sees the commander as nothing but a glorified lacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 The game gives you no explanation as to why your character turns out to be a douche all of the sudden. Is... is my Norn racist? As I said, he had nothing but sympathy for the victims of the dragons. But not the Elonians. He treats them so differently than other victims of the current Big Bad. Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcifer.5198 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion_fatigue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If I went through what my Commander went Through, I would definitely grow a bit annoyed and maybe even careless. There is just so many wounds and let me quote immortal J.R.R. Tolkien's Frodo here; _How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on? When your heart had begin to understand; There is no going back . . . . . There are some things time cannot mend; Some hurts that go too deep that had taken hold. . . . ._ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geochan.9184 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 His stress might one day evolve into something even more messed up. Finally our character will become the evil of Tyria, betraying and killing his own allies to attain the rank of a God, he will fight and destroy all other gods and become the only one himself, and finally destroying the whole Tyria would be his final mission. Then that would be the end of Guild Wars 2, thus the start of Guild Wars 3, a group of people gathered to stop the evil god, Poohbah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearlyMe.5320 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Compassion fatigue, yeah. I'd agree on that. No one can keep going like the Commander does, year after year. It's been years. It's constantly one thing or another, they can't seem to get a bit of peace. They probably just want to rest. I know that's how the female sylvari sounds. I don't need the game to tell me what's going on with her, I can hear it in the voice. Though joining the Shining Blades was enough of an eye-opening to the kinds of burdens she's facing. Seems like the Commander feels guilt over nearly everything that has happened. It's wearing them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Again, of course that is a possibility. But it doesn't happen. There is no sign of it. The Commander literally plays out like he/she just woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo G.4501 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Tribalism is a rather natural thing and while someone may not be a bottomless well of compassion and good will, it's the actions that are important. So the commander isn't overflowing with good will, but is the commander outright ignoring their plight? Only looking to accomplish what provides a personal benefit? At the end of the day, your beef is with outward expression of emotion, something people have been complaining about for various races and scenarios since nearly day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 > @"Leo G.4501" said: > At the end of the day, your beef is with outward expression of emotion, something people have been complaining about for various races and scenarios since nearly day 1. No. My "beef" is with this sudden change in character of my, well, character without any rime or reason behind it. I'd be first in line to support my main character finally throwing his hands up and saying something along the lines of the famous quote from Lethal Weapon: "I'm too old for this kitten!" But that **doesn't** happen. Your character just magically becomes a gruff, cynical dingus **without** any explanation as to why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo G.4501 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > @"Leo G.4501" said: > > At the end of the day, your beef is with outward expression of emotion, something people have been complaining about for various races and scenarios since nearly day 1. > > No. > > My "beef" is with this sudden change in character of my, well, character without any rime or reason behind it. I'd be first in line to support my main character finally throwing his hands up and saying something along the lines of the famous quote from Lethal Weapon: "I'm too old for this kitten!" > > But that **doesn't** happen. Your character just magically becomes a gruff, cynical dingus **without** any explanation as to why. > > So you're saying your beef is with the outward expression of emotion (specifically, the lack-thereof) which, again, people have been complaining about for a long time ^^; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 > @"Leo G.4501" said: > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > > @"Leo G.4501" said: > > > At the end of the day, your beef is with outward expression of emotion, something people have been complaining about for various races and scenarios since nearly day 1. > > > > No. > > > > My "beef" is with this sudden change in character of my, well, character without any rime or reason behind it. I'd be first in line to support my main character finally throwing his hands up and saying something along the lines of the famous quote from Lethal Weapon: "I'm too old for this kitten!" > > > > But that **doesn't** happen. Your character just magically becomes a gruff, cynical dingus **without** any explanation as to why. > > > > > > So you're saying your beef is with the outward expression of emotion (specifically, the lack-thereof) which, again, people have been complaining about for a long time ^^; No. Reading comprehension, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 My guy seemed sympathetic enough to refugees. He was a commander saying something snarky to a soldier who didn't have the bottle to do what he was supposed to do. Maybe he just misses Brahm. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo G.4501 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > @"Leo G.4501" said: > > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > > > @"Leo G.4501" said: > > > > At the end of the day, your beef is with outward expression of emotion, something people have been complaining about for various races and scenarios since nearly day 1. > > > > > > No. > > > > > > My "beef" is with this sudden change in character of my, well, character without any rime or reason behind it. I'd be first in line to support my main character finally throwing his hands up and saying something along the lines of the famous quote from Lethal Weapon: "I'm too old for this kitten!" > > > > > > But that **doesn't** happen. Your character just magically becomes a gruff, cynical dingus **without** any explanation as to why. > > > > > > > > > > So you're saying your beef is with the outward expression of emotion (specifically, the lack-thereof) which, again, people have been complaining about for a long time ^^; > > No. Reading comprehension, mate. Lol what I'm saying is, people that sound like they are defending the commander's actions likely aren't doing it because they wholly agree with how the commander is portrayed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Nor do I wholly disagree with the way the Commander is portrayed - as I've mentioned repeatedly. My "beef" is with us never getting any explanation as to why this sudden shift in personality occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noa.7490 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I don't like it either because it happened all of a sudden, not through the course of a character's progression (or lack thereof) where we could, or would, foresee such a shift in personality. But on a side note, "our" commander isn't really ours per se because the dialog is on a rail and we have no say except to choo-choo along, whether we like it, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malafaia.8903 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 It's Joko's influence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 I swear, the more I listen to my character in the PoF storyline, the more I am convinced someone at Anet read one too many Warhammer 40K novels and decided to infuse the Commander with liberal amounts of _Grimdark_. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcifer.5198 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I don't feel like it happened suddenly. I feel it started at the end of HoT story and progressed as the living story went on towards PoF. I remember noticing the change during the living story and talking about it with some of my guild mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyndina.7984 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Think about it, he never seems to get some off time...or peace time. Slay an Enemy just so that another "bader" enemys spawns. Zhaitan- Scarlet-Mordremoth- white mantle,Caudecus- Lazarus-Balthasar and so on...wouldnt you get angry if someone would stand in your way,while you try to safe the world from all evil. We had a discussion about this a whole time ago, i.E. the Commanders burned out of taking sideways( help someone with his little problems, just to get some help fighting the real evil.). Then his "guildies" who give him fault for everything and are the most cringiest dudes ever. I i was in this situation i would throw my weapons away and go home. "f...this world. let it burn,if i have so many obstacles in my way." Wouldnt surprise me if one day he goes on a rampage and kill all of his "companions" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo G.4501 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > Nor do I wholly disagree with the way the Commander is portrayed - as I've mentioned repeatedly. > > My "beef" is with us never getting any explanation as to why this sudden shift in personality occurs. So then you understand what I'm saying now? What you're complaining about isn't particularly new... But I appreciate the insult. Real mature of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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