TastyTofu.3597 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I did more damage by just having phantasms out pre-patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Context ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levetty.1279 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"zealex.9410" said: > Context ?? I don't know exactly what he is talking about but confusion has been destroyed in PvE so Mirage DPS and thus probably any Mesmer dps is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TastyTofu.3597 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Levetty.1279" said: > > @"zealex.9410" said: > > Context ?? > > I don't know exactly what he is talking about but confusion has been destroyed in PvE so Mirage DPS and thus probably any Mesmer dps is dead. Both power and condi were hit too hard, mesmer is back in the meme realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phit.3560 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I'm only getting 7.5k when I was getting around 20k yesterday. Time for a new rotation/build....maybe not build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TastyTofu.3597 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Phit.3560" said: > I'm only getting 7.5k when I was getting around 20k yesterday. Time for a new rotation/build....maybe not build. No rotation or build is going to fix what they did to mesmer, it's time to abandon ship for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shatter.7956 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 meme profession or not, it's like.... really really fun to play now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saracen.2691 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Alex Shatter.7956" said: > meme profession or not, it's like.... really really fun to play now Really fun to play if you don't like actually playing the game, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevaris.5970 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 No need to panic. At the moment I can maintain 28.5k dps on golem. Pro tip: use staff clones :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevaris.5970 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I mean it's not great at all but still not pure garbage tier. Plus it looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayd.9648 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > No need to panic. At the moment I can maintain 28.5k dps on golem. Pro tip: use staff clones :) Is that for condi or power? I’m assuming condi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TastyTofu.3597 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > No need to panic. At the moment I can maintain 28.5k dps on golem. Pro tip: use staff clones :) Anet's ever so wonderful "play my way or don't play at all" mentality I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlashugged.7642 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Should have tried playing instead of moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevaris.5970 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Shayd.9648" said: > > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > > No need to panic. At the moment I can maintain 28.5k dps on golem. Pro tip: use staff clones :) > > Is that for condi or power? I’m assuming condi? Condi mirage. There is no way you can maintain that much without perma phantasms via power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevaris.5970 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"atlashugged.7642" said: > Should have tried playing instead of moaning. > > Wow. You proved me wrong. Nice job :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayd.9648 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > > @"Shayd.9648" said: > > > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > > > No need to panic. At the moment I can maintain 28.5k dps on golem. Pro tip: use staff clones :) > > > > Is that for condi or power? I’m assuming condi? > > Condi mirage. There is no way you can maintain that much without perma phantasms via power. Good to know. Did you change up traits or skills at all for what was meta pre-patch outside of swapping to staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlashugged.7642 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > > @"atlashugged.7642" said: > > Should have tried playing instead of moaning. > > > > > > Wow. You proved me wrong. Nice job :) I'm not trying to prove you wrong. My post was more directed at op and those like him. Unlike him, you actually seem to be trying to adjust rather than demand that anet adjust the entire game to keep you from having to learn a new build/rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > No need to panic. At the moment I can maintain 28.5k dps on golem. Pro tip: use staff clones :) huh? like how can you power build on staff?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevaris.5970 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Shayd.9648" said: > > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > > > @"Shayd.9648" said: > > > > @"Mevaris.5970" said: > > > > No need to panic. At the moment I can maintain 28.5k dps on golem. Pro tip: use staff clones :) > > > > > > Is that for condi or power? I’m assuming condi? > > > > Condi mirage. There is no way you can maintain that much without perma phantasms via power. > > Good to know. Did you change up traits or skills at all for what was meta pre-patch outside of swapping to staff? Dueling Chaos Mirage. Axe+ torch / Staff. The point is to spawn 3 staff clones asap and don't overwrite them with axe clones. You have to spam all your manipulation skill while on staff. Only use torch phantasm when you are about to switch back to staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levetty.1279 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"atlashugged.7642" said: > Should have tried playing instead of moaning. > > So we have a power dps build that is actually usable and some people are saying they have got similar numbers on a condie staff build meaning my dream of Staff being good is finally real. This patch is fucking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I don't know about that i'm benchmarking 21k in full vipers clone build, The same with core Mesmer lower with chrono power and mirage power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenGlass.9356 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I mean... I want staff not to suck super bad. Is this a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeL.8260 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Benchmarks dont work anymore for condi mesmer unless you test on a target that uses skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik.7560 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"TastyTofu.3597" said: > I did more damage by just having phantasms out pre-patch. - Add buffs to yourself. search up a raid site and visit their benchmarks page to see the realistic/appropriate buffs to add. - Add 25vul on the golem, and other condis if needed. - Don't stop attacking it after hitting it once, your dps will be recorded over the entire time that golem is alive from the first hit you do to it. - visit my latest creation if you need a build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Francois.4328 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Confusion definitely feels undertuned in PvE. That said, I'm in favor of shifting its damage to on-attack rather than passive. Conditions need a rework. Bleed and Burn do the exact same thing. Poison also does the same thing in PvE where enemies do not heal. Torment is the only condition which is slightly unique. With a proper Confusion rework, they can make it something that you use skillfully at the right time when you know your enemy is going to be attacking a lot, rather than something you ramp up over battle. It should not be spammed off cool-down. Confusion should be used skillfully, something on the side from your bleed and torment to achieve a dps increase if used at the right time. ANET, we need to talk about *Purity of Purpose*. Confusion is the very essence of what a Mesmer should be: Punishing an enemy for their actions. It is one of the only unique conditions in that regard, and I want you to do it justice, damnit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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