Oglaf.1074 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Lets say you wanna make a character called **Bob the Mighty**. The game will force you to spell it **Bob The Mighty** which looks a lot worse (in fact, NPCs using this format do not captialize the "the" just to rub it in your face!). So... can we please get rid of it? Pwetty please? And yes, I realize what a very personal nitpick this is so there is no need to make a comment just to point that out - I am well aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrizzFreston.5290 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Seems like a hassle to program. I kind of like the auto-capitalization, as I have the same reaction to usernames without any capitalization. Before we get: bob the mighty, BOB the MIGHTY or bOb the mIGhty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Well X the Y is a unique case really. As I said, the NPCs in game follow the "rule" set up for it grammatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardhikaizecson.3697 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I was going to name my character using name such as Smitey McSmiterson found out that I cant and it frustrated me, Smitey Mcsmiterson or Smitey Mc Smiterson just dont feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedek.8932 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Isn't a name always capitalized? So it maks sense. Even song titles are often capitalized, because it is a name - of the song. @"ardhikaizecson.3697" As far as I read into the topic, "Mac" can be used just fine: Smitey Mac Smiterson is actually (one) proper spelling, with the caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seera.5916 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 > @"Zedek.8932" said: > Isn't a name always capitalized? So it maks sense. Even song titles are often capitalized, because it is a name - of the song. > But if the word "the" comes up in the middle of the song title, it's not capitalized. That's what the OP is referring to. Those small subset of words that aren't capitalized in proper nouns unless they are the first word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedek.8932 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 > @"Seera.5916" said: > > @"Zedek.8932" said: > > Isn't a name always capitalized? So it maks sense. Even song titles are often capitalized, because it is a name - of the song. > > > > But if the word "the" comes up in the middle of the song title, it's not capitalized. That's what the OP is referring to. Those small subset of words that aren't capitalized in proper nouns unless they are the first word. I just read how it is done, and there is more to it, even though are right about what you said. But still, I'd simply put it as my name then, I mean, he is literally free to choose any name he feels like. Maybe "The" is, uh, a funky spanish part of a name (not using the soft TH). Now that's what I call stretching reality. Excelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neural.1824 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 nO ThAnKYoU, tHe Sy5tEm is fINe aS iT $taNdz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProverbsofHell.2307 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Hah! I wish everyone cared as much as you. I see people with truly abominable names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seera.5916 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 > @"Zedek.8932" said: > > @"Seera.5916" said: > > > @"Zedek.8932" said: > > > Isn't a name always capitalized? So it maks sense. Even song titles are often capitalized, because it is a name - of the song. > > > > > > > But if the word "the" comes up in the middle of the song title, it's not capitalized. That's what the OP is referring to. Those small subset of words that aren't capitalized in proper nouns unless they are the first word. > > I just read how it is done, and there is more to it, even though are right about what you said. > But still, I'd simply put it as my name then, I mean, he is literally free to choose any name he feels like. Maybe "The" is, uh, a funky spanish part of a name (not using the soft TH). Now that's what I call stretching reality. > > Excelsior. And it's obvious in the example that it is the English word "the" and not Spanglish as there is no Spanish word "the". And I never said he wasn't able to choose a name he wanted. He's just complaining that the name he wants can't be grammatically correct and wishes ANet would allow for the first letter of words to not have to be capitalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedek.8932 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Duh. Isn't it pretty obvious I was not even remotely serious? My bad for not putting winking emoticons at the end. I expected you to realize it by yourself. Apparently not. Also never said you were saying anything about any restrictions about his name. Where do you read that from? Let's also be honest here: Do you think aNet changes most probably hard-coded stuff for such a minor thing? And I kept reading further, ardhikaizecson's name still is fine with a capitalized Mac. Excelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 > @"Seera.5916" said: > > @"Zedek.8932" said: > > Isn't a name always capitalized? So it maks sense. Even song titles are often capitalized, because it is a name - of the song. > > > > But if the word "the" comes up in the middle of the song title, it's not capitalized. That's what the OP is referring to. Those small subset of words that aren't capitalized in proper nouns unless they are the first word. Yeah. Also things like human noble characters with "von" or "of" in the name. It is simply better looking if you don't capitalize those words in a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 My new character would totally be: IlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl (L + I) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alehin.3746 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Bob The Mighty > bob the mighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 > @"Alehin.3746" said: > Bob The Mighty > bob the mighty Bob the Mighty trumps them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > Yeah. Also things like human noble characters with "von" or "of" in the name. > > It is simply better looking if you don't capitalize those words in a name. This! I've had to live with my main being Donari Mal Di Bette in game but canonically it's Donari Mal di Bette. Unrelated issue: his sister is Salvina Lucia Bette in game for length reasons, even though she's Salvina Lucia di Bette canonically (nickname Lucy, so I get confused when people say "thanks, Salvina" in Map, lol). But I can't complain about the 19 character limit, it's pretty generous and I guarantee I could come up with names too long for most any rational name length restriction. Still, if it fit, she'd also be dealing with Di rather than di (pronounced dee). And I do have a character with a the in the middle, Mirth The Mouse (not at all her birth name, but when you grow up on the streets, you get odd monikers). I'd rather not capitalize the T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 > @"Donari.5237" said: > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > Yeah. Also things like human noble characters with "von" or "of" in the name. > > > > It is simply better looking if you don't capitalize those words in a name. > > This! I've had to live with my main being Donari Mal Di Bette in game but canonically it's Donari Mal di Bette. Unrelated issue: his sister is Salvina Lucia Bette in game for length reasons, even though she's Salvina Lucia di Bette canonically (nickname Lucy, so I get confused when people say "thanks, Salvina" in Map, lol). But I can't complain about the 19 character limit, it's pretty generous and I guarantee I could come up with names too long for most any rational name length restriction. Still, if it fit, she'd also be dealing with Di rather than di (pronounced dee). > > And I do have a character with a the in the middle, Mirth The Mouse (not at all her birth name, but when you grow up on the streets, you get odd monikers). I'd rather not capitalize the T. Yeah when the game launched I was amazed you could use spaces in the names. No other game I’ve played up to that point let you do that. I really commend Anet on their naming system in general. I just wish they’d “fix” this. I mean, they name NPCs the proper way and everything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > Lets say you wanna make a character called **Bob the Mighty**. The game will force you to spell it **Bob The Mighty** which looks a lot worse (in fact, NPCs using this format do not captialize the "the" just to rub it in your face!). > > So... can we please get rid of it? Pwetty please? > > And yes, I realize what a very personal nitpick this is so there is no need to make a comment just to point that out - I am well aware. It's a personal and not necessarily accurate nitpick. The rules for title case aren't universal by any means. Some style manuals for some institutions insist that Title Case = Initial Cap, some allow for definite articles (e.g. "the") and certain prepositions (e.g. "or"|"and"|"of") to be lower case, some allow fewer exceptions (some more). There's no rule of thumb that applies to all uses. So "Bob The Mighty" is 'correct' depending on who is judging. Personally, I prefer "Bob the Mighty" or, I'd really prefer, "Bob the Not-as-Weak as Robert", but we don't get hyphens either. tl;dr grammar rules are arbitrary anyhow; I've gotten used to ANet emphasizing the "arbitrary" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > Lets say you wanna make a character called **Bob the Mighty**. The game will force you to spell it **Bob The Mighty** which looks a lot worse (in fact, NPCs using this format do not captialize the "the" just to rub it in your face!). > > > > So... can we please get rid of it? Pwetty please? > > > > And yes, I realize what a very personal nitpick this is so there is no need to make a comment just to point that out - I am well aware. > > It's a personal and not necessarily accurate nitpick. The rules for title case aren't universal by any means. Some style manuals for some institutions insist that Title Case = Initial Cap, some allow for definite articles (e.g. "the") and certain prepositions (e.g. "or"|"and"|"of") to be lower case, some allow fewer exceptions (some more). There's no rule of thumb that applies to all uses. > > So "Bob The Mighty" is 'correct' depending on who is judging. > > Personally, I prefer "Bob the Mighty" or, I'd really prefer, "Bob the Not-as-Weak as Robert", but we don't get hyphens either. > > tl;dr grammar rules are arbitrary anyhow; I've gotten used to ANet emphasizing the "arbitrary" A personal nitpick I share with Anet when it comes to NPCs and it makes me green with envy. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 > @"FrizzFreston.5290" said: > Seems like a hassle to program. I kind of like the auto-capitalization, as I have the same reaction to usernames without any capitalization. > > Before we get: bob the mighty, BOB the MIGHTY or bOb the mIGhty. Huh? Why would removing it be a hassle? It is REMOVING something that alters the input. edit: I would remind anet if they do this to make sure they do a case insensitive comparison to existing names or you will have the headache of both 'Bob The Mighty' and 'Bob the Mighty' at the same time in no time flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echoherb.6528 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 No thanks, a lot of people would make really stupid names with random caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 > @"Echoherb.6528" said: > No thanks, a lot of people would make really stupid names with random caps. > People do this already, and the trade-off would be people like myself creating really “good” names that we currently can’t, sooo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palador.2170 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 This can not be changed. Part of the way to know when you're dealing with an actual GM is because their name will be "GM [somename]". Only a GM can have the double capital letters like that. If they changed this, you'd have people trying to make fake GM characters. I'm sure they can put in other checks to help avoid this, but at that point it's a whole other can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Pretty sure “GM” is on the list of disallowed words in your character’s name already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palador.2170 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > Pretty sure “GM” is on the list of disallowed words in your character’s name already. That would make sense. But back when the game started, they did state that the double capital letters were a sign of a real GM, because the naming system didn't allow players to do it. Meh. Maybe they'd consider letting that go, and let the system change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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