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> @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> Not currently in T1, so no, I don't know what desert BL looks like. And why don't you guys hit BG for a change? Don't get me wrong, I hate how SoS says they want to take on BG, but they never actually do it, they just blob the 3rd server. But you guys have 3 keeps in EBG, why not try to make it 4?

 

We've also already hit BG, this isn't a one sided thing, we broke BG's keep on sunday I was there for that one, this was while sos was still hitting stuff on our side until they got a clue and went back and took their hills on their home and then bg's bay from them, and probably even hit bg garri as I saw the ewp go up there. I believe we broke bg's keep again monday, but I wasn't around for that one.

 

Now instead of crying about it in the forums SoS, go hit BG for a change, or push back at Mag, don't sit in front of spawn to get killed, it's that simple.

 

P.S at this point it's probably funnier to Mag to camp out SoS that bragged about taking down BG in 6 weeks, but can't even get out of spawn.

P.P.S SoS will probably get back at us by taking fire keep >.>

 

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> @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > > This is pretty much what you would expect:

> > > >

> > > > What they keep saying: "we want fights"

> > > > What they mean: "we want free/easy loot from people we outnumber"

> > > >

> > > > Stay classy spawn campers. Oh wait, nvm.

> > >

> > > SoS had a group of ~40 people earlier letting like 5-10 just walk up and kill their siege and kill players freely. but yes we're only able to spawn camp them because we outnumber them makes sense.

> >

> > Well, I wasn't there, but I have watched 4 different videos of it, and every single one shows them with the outnumbered buff. The screenshots show the outnumbered buff. I'm guessing that buff means they were outnumbered. But I'll wiki it since I must be confused.

>

> I'm sure they were outnumbered at points but they weren't this morning while I was on. They had a pretty solid group that couldn't push out at all and was just letting us walk up and kill their siege.

 

I've had the outnumbered buff on me for over 4 hours actually. Besides, we both know SoS would be fighting two servers if we tried to push out and not just Mag.

 

PS.: Half of the players we had on EBG were afk and trash-talking each other on /t. Sea of Sorrows? More like Sea of Salt.

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> @"Maya Santos.7401" said:

> > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > > > This is pretty much what you would expect:

> > > > >

> > > > > What they keep saying: "we want fights"

> > > > > What they mean: "we want free/easy loot from people we outnumber"

> > > > >

> > > > > Stay classy spawn campers. Oh wait, nvm.

> > > >

> > > > SoS had a group of ~40 people earlier letting like 5-10 just walk up and kill their siege and kill players freely. but yes we're only able to spawn camp them because we outnumber them makes sense.

> > >

> > > Well, I wasn't there, but I have watched 4 different videos of it, and every single one shows them with the outnumbered buff. The screenshots show the outnumbered buff. I'm guessing that buff means they were outnumbered. But I'll wiki it since I must be confused.

> >

> > I'm sure they were outnumbered at points but they weren't this morning while I was on. They had a pretty solid group that couldn't push out at all and was just letting us walk up and kill their siege.

>

> I've had the outnumbered buff on me for over 4 hours actually. Besides, we both know SoS would be fighting two servers if we tried to push out and not just Mag.

>

> PS.: Half of the players we had on EBG were afk and trash-talking each other on /t. Sea of Sorrows? More like Sea of Salt.

 

Ok you've def been outnumbered all day I believe you and haven't seen screens from people on sos that say otherwise. /s

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> @"Crazy.6029" said:

> Well, I'm hurt! Going on 2 yrs we have been seeing mag at our house, and I go to the forums today and I see this....Mag cheating on us with SoS.. all dressed up with siege and blocking all exits. They have never done that with us! I mean we have had our problems in the past but I don't think that cheating is the answer. We could of talked about this... there was even a little talk about a possible long term commitment with the new alliance system and now THIS! I think I just need some time... maybe a week to think about this...but if i see this ONE more time,.its OVER..no more getting together in BLs in front of bay, no more friday night movies at Garri, no more meeting at bluevale or redvale refuge, no more parties at Hills...and no more coming over to Titanpaw with your friends and hanging out! I MEAN IT! I'm just hurt...

 

We're leaving in 2 days, you still have time to make it up to us!

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> @"Maya Santos.7401" said:

> > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > > > This is pretty much what you would expect:

> > > > >

> > > > > What they keep saying: "we want fights"

> > > > > What they mean: "we want free/easy loot from people we outnumber"

> > > > >

> > > > > Stay classy spawn campers. Oh wait, nvm.

> > > >

> > > > SoS had a group of ~40 people earlier letting like 5-10 just walk up and kill their siege and kill players freely. but yes we're only able to spawn camp them because we outnumber them makes sense.

> > >

> > > Well, I wasn't there, but I have watched 4 different videos of it, and every single one shows them with the outnumbered buff. The screenshots show the outnumbered buff. I'm guessing that buff means they were outnumbered. But I'll wiki it since I must be confused.

> >

> > I'm sure they were outnumbered at points but they weren't this morning while I was on. They had a pretty solid group that couldn't push out at all and was just letting us walk up and kill their siege.

>

> I've had the outnumbered buff on me for over 4 hours actually. Besides, we both know SoS would be fighting two servers if we tried to push out and not just Mag.

>

> PS.: Half of the players we had on EBG were afk and trash-talking each other on /t. Sea of Sorrows? More like Sea of Salt.

 

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396597006593687553/415933323274092555/gw101.jpg this is from ~3 hours ago and you weren't outnumbered for the hour before it was taken and you aren't outnumbered now either.

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> @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > @"Hiraldo.7954" said:

> > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > Ahh, good old Maguuma. "We hate fighting BG because all they do is hide behind siege", then they proceed to hide behind siege. Hilarious.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hiding behind siege in an open field right next to the enemy spawn omegalul

> > > >

> > > > I am just assessing the screen shot, and what I see is Mag players humping siege to spawn camp.

> > >

> > > We were camping them all morning with no siege while they continuously build acs and ballistas and trebs. The only reason siege was built on mags side in the first place was in response to sos building siege.

> >

> > Why not just not spawn camp them at that point? Get a real fight in lords room when they try to take their keep back.

>

> Because why not. They've had plenty of numbers all day they could have easily pushed out and killed the siege and made a go at the keep if they were at all organised. If they're just going to sit there doing nothing letting us spawn camp them then thats not really our fault is it.

 

"If there are more of us than there are you, and we keep beating you up because we're bigger than you, it's your fault for being smaller and making us beat you up".

 

 

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> @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > @"Maya Santos.7401" said:

> > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > > @"Ubi.4136" said:

> > > > > > This is pretty much what you would expect:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What they keep saying: "we want fights"

> > > > > > What they mean: "we want free/easy loot from people we outnumber"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Stay classy spawn campers. Oh wait, nvm.

> > > > >

> > > > > SoS had a group of ~40 people earlier letting like 5-10 just walk up and kill their siege and kill players freely. but yes we're only able to spawn camp them because we outnumber them makes sense.

> > > >

> > > > Well, I wasn't there, but I have watched 4 different videos of it, and every single one shows them with the outnumbered buff. The screenshots show the outnumbered buff. I'm guessing that buff means they were outnumbered. But I'll wiki it since I must be confused.

> > >

> > > I'm sure they were outnumbered at points but they weren't this morning while I was on. They had a pretty solid group that couldn't push out at all and was just letting us walk up and kill their siege.

> >

> > I've had the outnumbered buff on me for over 4 hours actually. Besides, we both know SoS would be fighting two servers if we tried to push out and not just Mag.

> >

> > PS.: Half of the players we had on EBG were afk and trash-talking each other on /t. Sea of Sorrows? More like Sea of Salt.

>

> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396597006593687553/415933323274092555/gw101.jpg this is from ~3 hours ago and you weren't outnumbered for the hour before it was taken and you aren't outnumbered now either.

 

Well, I'm not on WvW anymore but it's good to know at least the server is rallying, kinda?

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> @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > @"Hiraldo.7954" said:

> > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > Ahh, good old Maguuma. "We hate fighting BG because all they do is hide behind siege", then they proceed to hide behind siege. Hilarious.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hiding behind siege in an open field right next to the enemy spawn omegalul

> > > > >

> > > > > I am just assessing the screen shot, and what I see is Mag players humping siege to spawn camp.

> > > >

> > > > We were camping them all morning with no siege while they continuously build acs and ballistas and trebs. The only reason siege was built on mags side in the first place was in response to sos building siege.

> > >

> > > Why not just not spawn camp them at that point? Get a real fight in lords room when they try to take their keep back.

> >

> > Because why not. They've had plenty of numbers all day they could have easily pushed out and killed the siege and made a go at the keep if they were at all organised. If they're just going to sit there doing nothing letting us spawn camp them then thats not really our fault is it.

>

> "If there are more of us than there are you, and we keep beating you up because we're bigger than you, it's your fault for being smaller and making us beat you up".

>

>

 

"I have a problem. This problem has a clear solution. I do not, however want to actively take part in this solution. I would rather sit back and wait it out/ignore it til it goes away. The longer the problem persists the better, as it allows me to whine and cry about it as long as possible to distract anyone from realizing there's a solution."

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> @"Honest John.4673" said:

> > @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > @"Hiraldo.7954" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > Ahh, good old Maguuma. "We hate fighting BG because all they do is hide behind siege", then they proceed to hide behind siege. Hilarious.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hiding behind siege in an open field right next to the enemy spawn omegalul

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am just assessing the screen shot, and what I see is Mag players humping siege to spawn camp.

> > > > >

> > > > > We were camping them all morning with no siege while they continuously build acs and ballistas and trebs. The only reason siege was built on mags side in the first place was in response to sos building siege.

> > > >

> > > > Why not just not spawn camp them at that point? Get a real fight in lords room when they try to take their keep back.

> > >

> > > Because why not. They've had plenty of numbers all day they could have easily pushed out and killed the siege and made a go at the keep if they were at all organised. If they're just going to sit there doing nothing letting us spawn camp them then thats not really our fault is it.

> >

> > "If there are more of us than there are you, and we keep beating you up because we're bigger than you, it's your fault for being smaller and making us beat you up".

> >

> >

>

> "I have a problem. This problem has a clear solution. I do not, however want to actively take part in this solution. I would rather sit back and wait it out/ignore it til it goes away. The longer the problem persists the better, as it allows me to whine and cry about it as long as possible to distract anyone from realizing there's a solution."

 

The solution is to stop spawn camping. Spawn camping is heinous, contrary to any kind of spirit of actually playing the game, and just boring gameplay besides. If you actually get enjoyment out of spawn camping someone, that's just sad.

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It's teh fights. Mag's all about the fights.

 

Kinda like SMC. Fights take place within the range of their siege, that of course they don't use.

 

And when met with equal numbers, while trying to take a keep prior to placing their own siege, they don't run streaming from the keep when facing even numbers.

 

It's all about the fights as those images clearly indicate.

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> @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > @"Honest John.4673" said:

> > > @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Hiraldo.7954" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > > Ahh, good old Maguuma. "We hate fighting BG because all they do is hide behind siege", then they proceed to hide behind siege. Hilarious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hiding behind siege in an open field right next to the enemy spawn omegalul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am just assessing the screen shot, and what I see is Mag players humping siege to spawn camp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We were camping them all morning with no siege while they continuously build acs and ballistas and trebs. The only reason siege was built on mags side in the first place was in response to sos building siege.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why not just not spawn camp them at that point? Get a real fight in lords room when they try to take their keep back.

> > > >

> > > > Because why not. They've had plenty of numbers all day they could have easily pushed out and killed the siege and made a go at the keep if they were at all organised. If they're just going to sit there doing nothing letting us spawn camp them then thats not really our fault is it.

> > >

> > > "If there are more of us than there are you, and we keep beating you up because we're bigger than you, it's your fault for being smaller and making us beat you up".

> > >

> > >

> >

> > "I have a problem. This problem has a clear solution. I do not, however want to actively take part in this solution. I would rather sit back and wait it out/ignore it til it goes away. The longer the problem persists the better, as it allows me to whine and cry about it as long as possible to distract anyone from realizing there's a solution."

>

> The solution is to stop spawn camping. Spawn camping is heinous, contrary to any kind of spirit of actually playing the game, and just boring gameplay besides. If you actually get enjoyment out of spawn camping someone, that's just sad.

 

Solution is to bypass them, Take other stuff, or leave the BL. If your server doesn't feel that they can match the numbers, go elsewhere. Mag will get bored.

 

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> @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > @"Honest John.4673" said:

> > > @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Hiraldo.7954" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > > Ahh, good old Maguuma. "We hate fighting BG because all they do is hide behind siege", then they proceed to hide behind siege. Hilarious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hiding behind siege in an open field right next to the enemy spawn omegalul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am just assessing the screen shot, and what I see is Mag players humping siege to spawn camp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We were camping them all morning with no siege while they continuously build acs and ballistas and trebs. The only reason siege was built on mags side in the first place was in response to sos building siege.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why not just not spawn camp them at that point? Get a real fight in lords room when they try to take their keep back.

> > > >

> > > > Because why not. They've had plenty of numbers all day they could have easily pushed out and killed the siege and made a go at the keep if they were at all organised. If they're just going to sit there doing nothing letting us spawn camp them then thats not really our fault is it.

> > >

> > > "If there are more of us than there are you, and we keep beating you up because we're bigger than you, it's your fault for being smaller and making us beat you up".

> > >

> > >

> >

> > "I have a problem. This problem has a clear solution. I do not, however want to actively take part in this solution. I would rather sit back and wait it out/ignore it til it goes away. The longer the problem persists the better, as it allows me to whine and cry about it as long as possible to distract anyone from realizing there's a solution."

>

> The solution is to stop spawn camping. Spawn camping is heinous, contrary to any kind of spirit of actually playing the game, and just boring gameplay besides. If you actually get enjoyment out of spawn camping someone, that's just sad.

 

Um sorry try again sweaty ;) The solution is to take a large group and coordinate up instead of suiciding one by one and just push all out at the same time and siege creep to the keep and take it back. But you can't or won't do that for what ever reason. You're not going to get the enemy server to solve your problems for you, it's up to your server to blob up and push out as a team, you have spawn advantage and can build a ton of siege to help. Literally nothing is stopping you but yourselves. And no I do not find this entertaining in the least, but I'll stay to finish my reward track.

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> @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > @"Honest John.4673" said:

> > > @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Hiraldo.7954" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > > Ahh, good old Maguuma. "We hate fighting BG because all they do is hide behind siege", then they proceed to hide behind siege. Hilarious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hiding behind siege in an open field right next to the enemy spawn omegalul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am just assessing the screen shot, and what I see is Mag players humping siege to spawn camp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We were camping them all morning with no siege while they continuously build acs and ballistas and trebs. The only reason siege was built on mags side in the first place was in response to sos building siege.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why not just not spawn camp them at that point? Get a real fight in lords room when they try to take their keep back.

> > > >

> > > > Because why not. They've had plenty of numbers all day they could have easily pushed out and killed the siege and made a go at the keep if they were at all organised. If they're just going to sit there doing nothing letting us spawn camp them then thats not really our fault is it.

> > >

> > > "If there are more of us than there are you, and we keep beating you up because we're bigger than you, it's your fault for being smaller and making us beat you up".

> > >

> > >

> >

> > "I have a problem. This problem has a clear solution. I do not, however want to actively take part in this solution. I would rather sit back and wait it out/ignore it til it goes away. The longer the problem persists the better, as it allows me to whine and cry about it as long as possible to distract anyone from realizing there's a solution."

>

> The solution is to stop spawn camping. Spawn camping is heinous, contrary to any kind of spirit of actually playing the game, and just boring gameplay besides. If you actually get enjoyment out of spawn camping someone, that's just sad.

 

 

> > @"Honest John.4673" said:

> > > @"Euryon.9248" said:

> > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > @"GrahamW.5397" said:

> > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Hiraldo.7954" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said:

> > > > > > > > > Ahh, good old Maguuma. "We hate fighting BG because all they do is hide behind siege", then they proceed to hide behind siege. Hilarious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hiding behind siege in an open field right next to the enemy spawn omegalul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am just assessing the screen shot, and what I see is Mag players humping siege to spawn camp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We were camping them all morning with no siege while they continuously build acs and ballistas and trebs. The only reason siege was built on mags side in the first place was in response to sos building siege.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why not just not spawn camp them at that point? Get a real fight in lords room when they try to take their keep back.

> > > >

> > > > Because why not. They've had plenty of numbers all day they could have easily pushed out and killed the siege and made a go at the keep if they were at all organised. If they're just going to sit there doing nothing letting us spawn camp them then thats not really our fault is it.

> > >

> > > "If there are more of us than there are you, and we keep beating you up because we're bigger than you, it's your fault for being smaller and making us beat you up".

> > >

> > >

> >

> > "I have a problem. This problem has a clear solution. I do not, however want to actively take part in this solution. I would rather sit back and wait it out/ignore it til it goes away. The longer the problem persists the better, as it allows me to whine and cry about it as long as possible to distract anyone from realizing there's a solution."

>

> The solution is to stop spawn camping. Spawn camping is heinous, contrary to any kind of spirit of actually playing the game, and just boring gameplay besides. If you actually get enjoyment out of spawn camping someone, that's just sad.

 

If you put half the effort into getting your keep back that you are putting into crying on the forums about how you've been outnumbered (you haven't), and we have siege (even though you guys built siege as well and you could have easily killed ours if even a few of you bothered to actually push up and attack it) you could have gotten your keep back long ago.

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> @"Honor.1982" said:

> Wont fight bg but they have the lowest amount of kills in the matchup? It's almost like all bg does is ppt empty bls

 

People run. Part is the numbers, part is something else.

 

Was quite interesting watching some of the organized guild groups leave when facing similar numbers when responding to call outs. Last night NA, two of the 4 BLs were consistently outnumbered for BG. One roaming group went to respond to call outs. When they show up, the other two servers left.

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