Vicariuz.1605 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"Alatar.7364" said: > > @"Vicariuz.1605" said: > > > @"Alatar.7364" said: > > > Bad players don't make it a Bad Mechanics. > > > > > > > Bad mechanics (like PvE content in PvP) bait bad players, example other than beasts is treb. There are literally EXTREMELY NICHE situations in which you do beasts and no actually good player will ever touch a treb. > > > > Remove the Jebait and watch play improve. > > Remove it and watch play get more dull with less options to strategize. You mean remove it and watch them be forced to defend a point or move to another instead of wasting their time, and their teams time, getting beast to 10% before the other team steals it? Due SPECIFICALLY because they have no idea what their mini map is, or how to interpret the information it gives them. Low skill players should not dictate map mechanics, especially because it'd be "dull" to them to play the game mode and not PvE. Can't even rotate correctly, but you want to "strategize" beasts...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"Vicariuz.1605" said: > > @"Alatar.7364" said: > > > @"Vicariuz.1605" said: > > > > @"Alatar.7364" said: > > > > Bad players don't make it a Bad Mechanics. > > > > > > > > > > Bad mechanics (like PvE content in PvP) bait bad players, example other than beasts is treb. There are literally EXTREMELY NICHE situations in which you do beasts and no actually good player will ever touch a treb. > > > > > > Remove the Jebait and watch play improve. > > > > Remove it and watch play get more dull with less options to strategize. > > You mean remove it and watch them be forced to defend a point or move to another instead of wasting their time, and their teams time, getting beast to 10% before the other team steals it? Due SPECIFICALLY because they have no idea what their mini map is, or how to interpret the information it gives them. > > Low skill players should not dictate map mechanics, especially because it'd be "dull" to them to play the game mode and not PvE. > > Can't even rotate correctly, but you want to "strategize" beasts...... That's exactly what I mean, further simplifing the options is not an option. That people get baited instead of using mechanic at the right time is not an argument to remove it. I don't ask for removal of unexperienced players from PvP just because they can't fight properly because they came from PvE, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyzE.3472 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I would ask for better match making. So that those silver players would play in silver, not plat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaga.5174 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 We dont need PvP to be watered down any more by removing mechanics from maps. These mechanics give us something else to think about to have an effect in a game and a bit of flavour for each map. Close games especially make these mechanics interesting and fun (frustrating if you lose, but rewarding if you win) If a team is failing with these simple mechanics, the chances are they'd be failing without those mechanics there too. The mechanics are not a problem, players not understanding them are. The fact that this post has been raised at this point in the season, and you have pointed out 'platinum' is pointless. The beginning of the season is volatile for placements. If situations like this arise where players are not using the mechanics properly, then they will not remain in platinum over the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Add more beasts imo. Not just a few, more like 50 of them running around hostile to everything. The higher your spvp rating the more the beasts agro to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I think the mechanic needs enhancing tbh, if either boss is killed in the first 1 minute of the match dhuum CM spawns and proceeds to punish them all for choosing to kill NPCs over players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 It's a great mechanic actually. Its just that there are tons of bad players regardless of ranking Even at plat you have people that can't reason out its not worth doing something risky (and it is risky one enemy can steal it with one hit) unless you need to come back or insta win at the very end. I always use the mini map to x them out with drawings but people don't care they'll do what they want to do winning be damned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Man.7239 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 > @"Vicariuz.1605" said: > > @"Andrew Man.7239" said: > > If you do get it, I also suggest telling your teammates pre-game that the beasts are only 2nd priority. They'll probably listen to you if they want to win. > > It's a TRULY rare moment when even 1 person reads chat, let alone looks at and interprets their map correctly. "Probably listen" is the chillest thing I've read on the forum in a while..... If you're in plat, and they don't understand that you can't just wait around for beasts and kill them, they won't be in plat for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bast.7253 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Beast don’t bother me near as much as some bunker Druid whittling lord down only to kill him while nobody is paying attention and grab the lead or distract someone from the other team into attempting to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 > @"cptaylor.2670" said: > Beast don’t bother me near as much as some bunker Druid whittling lord down only to kill him while nobody is paying attention and grab the lead or distract someone from the other team into attempting to defend. Druid can't actually kill the lord solo. The lord alone can out heal our (crappy) dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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