How does Power zerker compare to core power and spell breaker power in pve?

[infernaldemon.3906]

I really enjoy power warrior and was wondering what was the best spec to play, zerker looks like the funnest but I hear spell breaker is better

[Mikeskies.1536]

Spellbreaker is better and is more fun to play. Spellbreaker has better multipliers/stat increases now and Berserker's primal bursts are too weak for single target damage.

[Red Haired Savage.5430]

What game mode are you looking at?

[NikeEU.7690]

Core power warrior with banners is more desirable than either. Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

[Hoodie.1045]

Berserker is more of a condition warrior and it's not good at power damage compared to core and Spellbreaker. If you want to play power warrior, choose core warrior. Don't play Spellbreaker. Spellbreaker is core warrior set on easy mode. Core warriors don't need a stupid Full Counter skill that gives them resistance, stability, AoE daze etc.

[Cloud Windfoot Omega.7485]

> @"Hoodie.1045" said:

> Berserker is more of a condition warrior and it's not good at power damage compared to core and Spellbreaker. If you want to play power warrior, choose core warrior. Don't play Spellbreaker. Spellbreaker is core warrior set on easy mode. Core warriors don't need a stupid Full Counter skill that gives them resistance, stability, AoE daze etc.

 

mad

[SunTzu.4513]

> Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

 

Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

[Mikeskies.1536]

> @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

>

> Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

 

Arc Divider. That is all.

[RedShark.9548]

> @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

>

> Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

 

anet decided to butcher the adrenal use on berserker, you waste 3 bars of adrenalin to enter the mode but upon using primal bursts you only gain one stack of adrenal health and berserkers might, that was the patch when everyone ditched berserker as power build

[TotallyNotJazzie.1493]

> @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

> >

> > Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

>

> anet decided to butcher the adrenal use on berserker, you waste 3 bars of adrenalin to enter the mode but upon using primal bursts you only gain one stack of adrenal health and berserkers might, that was the patch when everyone ditched berserker as power build

 

Still hoping they reverse this. Everywhere preferably since it’ll be competing against PoF specs so wont seem so strong as before. But AT LEAST in PvE.

[Mikeskies.1536]

> @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > > > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

> > >

> > > Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

> >

> > anet decided to butcher the adrenal use on berserker, you waste 3 bars of adrenalin to enter the mode but upon using primal bursts you only gain one stack of adrenal health and berserkers might, that was the patch when everyone ditched berserker as power build

>

> Still hoping they reverse this. Everywhere preferably since it’ll be competing against PoF specs so wont seem so strong as before. But AT LEAST in PvE.

 

That's not even the main problem. Arcing Slice is a 3/4 s cast, compared to Arc Divider at 1/2 s cast.

[Lahmia.2193]

Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

[Red Haired Savage.5430]

We all know they won't reverse a nerf though.

[TotallyNotJazzie.1493]

> @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

 

This is literally it in a nutshell.

[Mikeskies.1536]

> @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

>

> This is literally it in a nutshell

 

Headbutt, Taunt, Arc Slicing OP. People don't like getting one shot.

[TotallyNotJazzie.1493]

> @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > > Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

> >

> > This is literally it in a nutshell

>

> Headbutt, Taunt, Arc Slicing OP. People don't like getting one shot.

 

Yes, a long time ago Beserker was capable of some really cheesy stuff. But with Firebrand support and weakness being thrown about everywhere I really doubt even a pre-patch Beserker would “one-shot” anything in today’s arenas. And tbf, Headbutt was always a highly readable skill. Not to mention stunbreaks are everywhere now compared to HoT days.

 

Just my 2 cents, feel free to have a difference of opinion.

[Mikeskies.1536]

> @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > > > Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

> > >

> > > This is literally it in a nutshell

> >

> > Headbutt, Taunt, Arc Slicing OP. People don't like getting one shot.

>

> Yes, a long time ago Beserker was capable of some really cheesy stuff. But with Firebrand support and weakness being thrown about everywhere I really doubt even a pre-patch Beserker would “one-shot” anything in today’s arenas. And tbf, Headbutt was always a highly readable skill. Not to mention stunbreaks are everywhere now compared to HoT days.

>

> Just my 2 cents, feel free to have a difference of opinion.

 

I think the changes should be reverted. In that patch, they increased Arcing Slice and Headbutt cast times and reduced the Berserk Mode taunt duration, effectively killing Power Berserker in PvP, while reducing PvE damage at the same time.

[TotallyNotJazzie.1493]

> @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > > > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > > > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > > > > Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

> > > >

> > > > This is literally it in a nutshell

> > >

> > > Headbutt, Taunt, Arc Slicing OP. People don't like getting one shot.

> >

> > Yes, a long time ago Beserker was capable of some really cheesy stuff. But with Firebrand support and weakness being thrown about everywhere I really doubt even a pre-patch Beserker would “one-shot” anything in today’s arenas. And tbf, Headbutt was always a highly readable skill. Not to mention stunbreaks are everywhere now compared to HoT days.

> >

> > Just my 2 cents, feel free to have a difference of opinion.

>

> I think the changes should be reverted. In that patch, they increased Arcing Slice and Headbutt cast times and reduced the Berserk Mode taunt duration, effectively killing Power Berserker in PvP, while reducing PvE damage at the same time.

 

Agreed. I get that PvP balance can be hard to get 100% correct but to make a specialisation completely disappear bc of patches... it should oughta be clear to Anet that the changes went too far.

 

Fingers crossed they give it some love, either by reverting the bursts back or the utilities. Preferably both but I know that’s highly unlikely.

[Henry.5713]

They basically killed it with the long cast on Headbutt and Arc Divider (I really, really miss the old one) and by nerfing the synergy between Primal Bursts and Berserker's Power. The old Blood Reckoning opening rotation is too slow and too weak now. It would require them to revert all of the nerfs and to add Rage skills to Peak Performance if they wanted to make this equal to the other builds. Rather unlikely.

 

> @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

 

With the addition that they very really go back on nerfs. Nerfs which would hardly be justifiable if they happened now but made sense back when they happened.

Look at Ride the Lightning on elementalists. One of the best mobility skills back then and just a joke when compared to what they added over the years.

[Mikeskies.1536]

> @"Henry.5713" said:

> They basically killed it with the long cast on Headbutt and Arc Divider (I really, really miss the old one) and by nerfing the synergy between Primal Bursts and Berserker's Power. The old Blood Reckoning opening rotation is too slow and too weak now. It would require them to revert all of the nerfs and to add Rage skills to Peak Performance if they wanted to make this equal to the other builds. Rather unlikely.

>

> > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > Power Berserker is a victim of "nerfs that kind of made sense at the time but now, because of power creep, should be reverted".

>

> With the addition that they very really go back on nerfs. Nerfs which would hardly be justifiable if they happened now but made sense back when they happened.

> Look at Ride the Lightning on elementalists. One of the best mobility skills back then and just a joke when compared to what they added over the years.

 

The Berserker's Power change isn't really an issue. The cast times really hurt.

[RedShark.9548]

> @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > > @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > > > > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

> > > >

> > > > Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

> > >

> > > anet decided to butcher the adrenal use on berserker, you waste 3 bars of adrenalin to enter the mode but upon using primal bursts you only gain one stack of adrenal health and berserkers might, that was the patch when everyone ditched berserker as power build

> >

> > Still hoping they reverse this. Everywhere preferably since it’ll be competing against PoF specs so wont seem so strong as before. But AT LEAST in PvE.

>

> That's not even the main problem. Arcing Slice is a 3/4 s cast, compared to Arc Divider at 1/2 s cast.

 

you are telling me that the arc divider casttime is a bigger problem than the adrenalin change? lol sure m8, maybe in pve, no idea about that, but in pvp and wvw its definately the adrenalin change

[Mikeskies.1536]

> @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > > > @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > > > > > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

> > > > >

> > > > > Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

> > > >

> > > > anet decided to butcher the adrenal use on berserker, you waste 3 bars of adrenalin to enter the mode but upon using primal bursts you only gain one stack of adrenal health and berserkers might, that was the patch when everyone ditched berserker as power build

> > >

> > > Still hoping they reverse this. Everywhere preferably since it’ll be competing against PoF specs so wont seem so strong as before. But AT LEAST in PvE.

> >

> > That's not even the main problem. Arcing Slice is a 3/4 s cast, compared to Arc Divider at 1/2 s cast.

>

> you are telling me that the arc divider casttime is a bigger problem than the adrenalin change? lol sure m8, maybe in pve, no idea about that, but in pvp and wvw its definately the adrenalin change

 

This topic is about PvE...

[RedShark.9548]

> @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > > > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > > > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > > > > @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > > > > > > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

> > > > >

> > > > > anet decided to butcher the adrenal use on berserker, you waste 3 bars of adrenalin to enter the mode but upon using primal bursts you only gain one stack of adrenal health and berserkers might, that was the patch when everyone ditched berserker as power build

> > > >

> > > > Still hoping they reverse this. Everywhere preferably since it’ll be competing against PoF specs so wont seem so strong as before. But AT LEAST in PvE.

> > >

> > > That's not even the main problem. Arcing Slice is a 3/4 s cast, compared to Arc Divider at 1/2 s cast.

> >

> > you are telling me that the arc divider casttime is a bigger problem than the adrenalin change? lol sure m8, maybe in pve, no idea about that, but in pvp and wvw its definately the adrenalin change

>

> This topic is about PvE...

 

true lol mb,

thank god pve balancing doesnt phase me a single bit, still thought the adrenalin changes made the biggest impact

[Mikeskies.1536]

> @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > > @"Mikeskies.1536" said:

> > > > > @"TotallyNotJazzie.1493" said:

> > > > > > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > > > > > @"SunTzu.4513" said:

> > > > > > > > Power berserker is a dead build unfortunately.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Whats the reason for this? Does berserker power traited not work well with an powerspec? Or are the other options as core or spellbreaker just that much better dps wise?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > anet decided to butcher the adrenal use on berserker, you waste 3 bars of adrenalin to enter the mode but upon using primal bursts you only gain one stack of adrenal health and berserkers might, that was the patch when everyone ditched berserker as power build

> > > > >

> > > > > Still hoping they reverse this. Everywhere preferably since it’ll be competing against PoF specs so wont seem so strong as before. But AT LEAST in PvE.

> > > >

> > > > That's not even the main problem. Arcing Slice is a 3/4 s cast, compared to Arc Divider at 1/2 s cast.

> > >

> > > you are telling me that the arc divider casttime is a bigger problem than the adrenalin change? lol sure m8, maybe in pve, no idea about that, but in pvp and wvw its definately the adrenalin change

> >

> > This topic is about PvE...

>

> true lol mb,

> thank god pve balancing doesnt phase me a single bit, still thought the adrenalin changes made the biggest impact

 

It definitely hurt PvP, though. Killed my favourite build.

[TotallyNotJazzie.1493]

I can’t remember last time i saw a Beserker in PvP. It upsets me to think that this scarcity of a class doesn’t seem to even bother Anet at all :anguished: