Lambent.6375 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 That do not require dungeons, raids, WvW, or PvP. I'm just throwing the idea out there, don't have much to add right now. It would serve as a mat sink and give open world PvE players something to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laila Lightness.8742 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Amor would be better and it should drop from world bosses ore regular enemies and use envoy skin for pve should have same skin a raiders time is not more worth than a open world players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddoctor.2738 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Many of the Outfits look more "Legendary" than actual Legendary Armor :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The draw of legendary armor (or partly at least) is the stat-swapping. You have none of that with an outfit. So in what way would it be legendary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambent.6375 Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"DeanBB.4268" said: > The draw of legendary armor (or partly at least) is the stat-swapping. You have none of that with an outfit. So in what way would it be legendary? Footsteps Aura (That stand out a bit more than your typical outfit aura) Other potential effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambent.6375 Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Pifil.5193" said: > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. I meant outfits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > I meant outfits. Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 If you want a “Legendary outfit” get the Ice Encasement Outfit. Has a dyeable, bright aura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Does legendary armor even have footprints? I dunno, I can't see this happening. But I would most likely buy legendary armor from the gem store if offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambent.6375 Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > > > I meant outfits. > > Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. The reason I don't ask for armor is because I assumed it would be shot down immediately Anet may not want to put in the work to make them, then there would be the players not happy about people being able to obtain legendary armor just from open world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Maybe not Legendary, but I wonder if ANet could sell outfit recipes in the gemstore and then you craft them using the mats you gather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambent.6375 Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > If you want a “Legendary outfit” get the Ice Encasement Outfit. Has a dyeable, bright aura. It has a butt "cape" though :( and no foot steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaron.1987 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > If you want a “Legendary outfit” get the Ice Encasement Outfit. Has a dyeable, bright aura. > > It has a butt "cape" though :( and no foot steps. Bad news news for you... Leg Armour (from raid/PvP) also don't have foot steps Only leg weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambent.6375 Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Zaron.1987" said: > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > > If you want a “Legendary outfit” get the Ice Encasement Outfit. Has a dyeable, bright aura. > > > > It has a butt "cape" though :( and no foot steps. > > Bad news news for you... > > Leg Armour (from raid/PvP) also don't have foot steps > > Only leg weapons If they don't want to do footsteps I have faith they will come up with something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDub.1530 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > > > > > I meant outfits. > > > > Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. > > The reason I don't ask for armor is because I assumed it would be shot down immediately > > Anet may not want to put in the work to make them, then there would be the players not happy about people being able to obtain legendary armor just from open world. I can't imagine why anyone should have a problem with open world PvE Leg armor, however, it probably wouldn't have any visual appeal (same as PvP and WvW Leg), and it would require some straight up PvE-only grind, just like other Leg armor (Pips for PvP/WvW, and is it Legendary Insights for raid armor?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlinvf.1358 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"JDub.1530" said: > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > > > > > > > I meant outfits. > > > > > > Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. > > > > The reason I don't ask for armor is because I assumed it would be shot down immediately > > > > Anet may not want to put in the work to make them, then there would be the players not happy about people being able to obtain legendary armor just from open world. > > I can't imagine why anyone should have a problem with open world PvE Leg armor, however, it probably wouldn't have any visual appeal (same as PvP and WvW Leg), and it would require some straight up PvE-only grind, just like other Leg armor (Pips for PvP/WvW, and is it Legendary Insights for raid armor?). Because legendary armor is reward for a players who prove their skill, and willing to invest in improving themselves, and pursuing a prestigious goal, and..... psfftttt haha... I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. I still can't believe some people actually subscribed that non-sense. The only thing it tests is ones patience and ability to tolerate potentially endless frustration, that comes with a time gate that relies on other people to succeed, then paired with a glorified gold sink. While I find the whole concept of Stat Swapping QOL (something everyone has a justifiable need at some point) as a convoluted reward incentive for a content block openly admitted to be targeted at less then 10% of the general population, to be mildly insulting. But in a twist of irony, the cost of the armor actually exacerbated the problem it was meant to solve, and still not fix it in the long term. They were pushing for time, and got what they wanted out of it..... habituating player into a weekly routine, until they forget what they were mad about. And then saw them do the same thing by importing the concept to PvP and WvW as a lure to all the PvE players who didn't fall into the raid routine, and saw it as low hanging fruit. Me included..... but then again, I already liked WvW. But it clearly wasn't targeted at me as a players.. as I was already in WvW on and off over the years. Time gates aside, its still a massive gold sink. Which means the only thing separating it from some of the crazy rare drop-only skins/infusions is the time gate and an illusion of attainability on a personal level. Which is funny because I've talked to people who toil away farming specific mats to make something, but could equally achieve that goal by farming non-specific mats, selling them for gold, and buying said item. Spending 3 times as long to save maybe 10-15% gold seems idiotic, but is oddly comfortable in a slightly illogical "self sufficient" feeling of accomplishment kind of way. ....... which is why everything has moved to account bound collections, so we can't buy our way of this insanity. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"starlinvf.1358" said: > > @"JDub.1530" said: > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > > > > > > > > > I meant outfits. > > > > > > > > Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. > > > > > > The reason I don't ask for armor is because I assumed it would be shot down immediately > > > > > > Anet may not want to put in the work to make them, then there would be the players not happy about people being able to obtain legendary armor just from open world. > > > > I can't imagine why anyone should have a problem with open world PvE Leg armor, however, it probably wouldn't have any visual appeal (same as PvP and WvW Leg), and it would require some straight up PvE-only grind, just like other Leg armor (Pips for PvP/WvW, and is it Legendary Insights for raid armor?). > > Because legendary armor is reward for a players who prove their skill, and willing to invest in improving themselves, and pursuing a prestigious goal, and..... psfftttt haha... I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. I still can't believe some people actually subscribed that non-sense. The only thing it tests is ones patience and ability to tolerate potentially endless frustration, that comes with a time gate that relies on other people to succeed, then paired with a glorified gold sink. I lasted almost as long as you did before laughing. :lol: Yeah, very, very true, I'm always delighted to encounter other people who saw the man behind the curtain. I'd be happy to sink time and gold into a legendary armour set but not in raids, I've done my raiding in other games, the biggest problem I've experienced is herding 9 other cats - I mean players - into an instance on time consistently. I still expect them to add open world pve sets as an ultimate grind reward in an expansion or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlinvf.1358 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > @"starlinvf.1358" said: > > > @"JDub.1530" said: > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant outfits. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. > > > > > > > > The reason I don't ask for armor is because I assumed it would be shot down immediately > > > > > > > > Anet may not want to put in the work to make them, then there would be the players not happy about people being able to obtain legendary armor just from open world. > > > > > > I can't imagine why anyone should have a problem with open world PvE Leg armor, however, it probably wouldn't have any visual appeal (same as PvP and WvW Leg), and it would require some straight up PvE-only grind, just like other Leg armor (Pips for PvP/WvW, and is it Legendary Insights for raid armor?). > > > > Because legendary armor is reward for a players who prove their skill, and willing to invest in improving themselves, and pursuing a prestigious goal, and..... psfftttt haha... I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. I still can't believe some people actually subscribed that non-sense. The only thing it tests is ones patience and ability to tolerate potentially endless frustration, that comes with a time gate that relies on other people to succeed, then paired with a glorified gold sink. > > I lasted almost as long as you did before laughing. :lol: > > Yeah, very, very true, I'm always delighted to encounter other people who saw the man behind the curtain. > > I'd be happy to sink time and gold into a legendary armour set but not in raids, I've done my raiding in other games, the biggest problem I've experienced is herding 9 other cats - I mean players - into an instance on time consistently. > > I still expect them to add open world pve sets as an ultimate grind reward in an expansion or two. Its the logical next step, given how its pretty much the only reward people take seriously, knowing its zero investment from that point forward. All that needs to happen is enough wealth accumulation by the players to make the cost feasible.... from there the gamer prerogative for efficiency kicks in, and down the rabbit hole we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDub.1530 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 > @"starlinvf.1358" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > @"starlinvf.1358" said: > > > > @"JDub.1530" said: > > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > > > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant outfits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. > > > > > > > > > > The reason I don't ask for armor is because I assumed it would be shot down immediately > > > > > > > > > > Anet may not want to put in the work to make them, then there would be the players not happy about people being able to obtain legendary armor just from open world. > > > > > > > > I can't imagine why anyone should have a problem with open world PvE Leg armor, however, it probably wouldn't have any visual appeal (same as PvP and WvW Leg), and it would require some straight up PvE-only grind, just like other Leg armor (Pips for PvP/WvW, and is it Legendary Insights for raid armor?). > > > > > > Because legendary armor is reward for a players who prove their skill, and willing to invest in improving themselves, and pursuing a prestigious goal, and..... psfftttt haha... I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. I still can't believe some people actually subscribed that non-sense. The only thing it tests is ones patience and ability to tolerate potentially endless frustration, that comes with a time gate that relies on other people to succeed, then paired with a glorified gold sink. > > > > I lasted almost as long as you did before laughing. :lol: > > > > Yeah, very, very true, I'm always delighted to encounter other people who saw the man behind the curtain. > > > > I'd be happy to sink time and gold into a legendary armour set but not in raids, I've done my raiding in other games, the biggest problem I've experienced is herding 9 other cats - I mean players - into an instance on time consistently. > > > > I still expect them to add open world pve sets as an ultimate grind reward in an expansion or two. > > Its the logical next step, given how its pretty much the only reward people take seriously, knowing its zero investment from that point forward. All that needs to happen is enough wealth accumulation by the players to make the cost feasible.... from there the gamer prerogative for efficiency kicks in, and down the rabbit hole we go. They would still need some sort of time gated system in place. Or maybe not so much time gated directly, but something that forced a player to do extended PvE content over several weeks. I don't think the WvW and PvP sets were added so much for not raiding PvE players, but to offer people who play exclusively in those game mode something to work towards. Even though I'm a PvE player, I enjoy WvW and just finished my second WvW Leg armor piece (plus a piece I did in PvP--never again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Rather not see dev resources allocated to something like this. I can think of a lot of things I would rather see in the game first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 > @"JDub.1530" said: > > @"starlinvf.1358" said: > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > @"starlinvf.1358" said: > > > > > @"JDub.1530" said: > > > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > > > > @"Lambent.6375" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > > > > > > I suspect the OP actually meant armour and not an outfit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant outfits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, in that case I wouldn't be at all interested in that. Legendary open world armour sure, Legendary open world outfits, no thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason I don't ask for armor is because I assumed it would be shot down immediately > > > > > > > > > > > > Anet may not want to put in the work to make them, then there would be the players not happy about people being able to obtain legendary armor just from open world. > > > > > > > > > > I can't imagine why anyone should have a problem with open world PvE Leg armor, however, it probably wouldn't have any visual appeal (same as PvP and WvW Leg), and it would require some straight up PvE-only grind, just like other Leg armor (Pips for PvP/WvW, and is it Legendary Insights for raid armor?). > > > > > > > > Because legendary armor is reward for a players who prove their skill, and willing to invest in improving themselves, and pursuing a prestigious goal, and..... psfftttt haha... I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. I still can't believe some people actually subscribed that non-sense. The only thing it tests is ones patience and ability to tolerate potentially endless frustration, that comes with a time gate that relies on other people to succeed, then paired with a glorified gold sink. > > > > > > I lasted almost as long as you did before laughing. :lol: > > > > > > Yeah, very, very true, I'm always delighted to encounter other people who saw the man behind the curtain. > > > > > > I'd be happy to sink time and gold into a legendary armour set but not in raids, I've done my raiding in other games, the biggest problem I've experienced is herding 9 other cats - I mean players - into an instance on time consistently. > > > > > > I still expect them to add open world pve sets as an ultimate grind reward in an expansion or two. > > > > Its the logical next step, given how its pretty much the only reward people take seriously, knowing its zero investment from that point forward. All that needs to happen is enough wealth accumulation by the players to make the cost feasible.... from there the gamer prerogative for efficiency kicks in, and down the rabbit hole we go. > > They would still need some sort of time gated system in place. Or maybe not so much time gated directly, but something that forced a player to do extended PvE content over several weeks. > > I don't think the WvW and PvP sets were added so much for not raiding PvE players, but to offer people who play exclusively in those game mode something to work towards. Even though I'm a PvE player, I enjoy WvW and just finished my second WvW Leg armor piece (plus a piece I did in PvP--never again). I'd say a time gated system is inevitable, the set will require hundreds of something that drops once a day from the expansion metas (taking the place of Skirmish Tickets or Legendary Insights) so that, if you do your metas every day, it'll take you about 22 or so weeks to get a set (the same amount of time that it takes for a full WvW set). I originally expected they would add an open world PvE set in PoF with unique armour skins (nothing as fancy or time consuming as the raid set but unique to this set) and a similar unique set in each new expansion, its an easy way of adding a long term goal to the expansions (and a common complaint about PoF is that it has no such long term goals) and to keep people invested in the metas for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDub.1530 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > I'd say a time gated system is inevitable, the set will require hundreds of something that drops once a day from the expansion metas (taking the place of Skirmish Tickets or Legendary Insights) so that, if you do your metas every day, it'll take you about 22 or so weeks to get a set (the same amount of time that it takes for a full WvW set). > > I originally expected they would add an open world PvE set in PoF with unique armour skins (nothing as fancy or time consuming as the raid set but unique to this set) and a similar unique set in each new expansion, its an easy way of adding a long term goal to the expansions (and a common complaint about PoF is that it has no such long term goals) and to keep people invested in the metas for years to come. It's a shame the PoF metas are lackluster to non-existent, otherwise this would indeed be a good place to include something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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