Samarog is an epic raid boss.

[Henry.5713]

My favorite part about Samarog is the door and it's purpose to make you bring a thief.

[Malediktus.9250]

> @"Astralporing.1957" said:

> Not to mention there is a significant gap between the top %1 percent groups, and the middle of the pack. If you finetune based on the top (and you'd have to, or they _would_ be able to lowman it), the "average" raiders would suddenly find it too hard for them. And that would severely impact completion rates (and thus participation rates as well).

>

> I'm not so sure if raids could survive, if the easy/initial encounter completion rates (escort, cairn, vg) dropped below 5%, and the hard ones (like Xera, Sh, Dhuum) below 1% (and those are _optimistic_ estimates - it could end even worse than that). I don't think that in such case raiders could expect even one new wing per year, less per the current 9 months (that are already too long for some).

 

You can easily require 10 people by making everyone in the squad to a specific mechanic. The most trivial being standing on 10 buttons at the same time at different stages of the encounter.

[Astralporing.1957]

> @"Malediktus.9250" said:

> > @"Astralporing.1957" said:

> > Not to mention there is a significant gap between the top %1 percent groups, and the middle of the pack. If you finetune based on the top (and you'd have to, or they _would_ be able to lowman it), the "average" raiders would suddenly find it too hard for them. And that would severely impact completion rates (and thus participation rates as well).

> >

> > I'm not so sure if raids could survive, if the easy/initial encounter completion rates (escort, cairn, vg) dropped below 5%, and the hard ones (like Xera, Sh, Dhuum) below 1% (and those are _optimistic_ estimates - it could end even worse than that). I don't think that in such case raiders could expect even one new wing per year, less per the current 9 months (that are already too long for some).

>

> You can easily require 10 people by making everyone in the squad to a specific mechanic. The most trivial being standing on 10 buttons at the same time at different stages of the encounter.

If the mechanic is trivial, people can still get carried. If it's not, we are back to my point.

 

[GrubySzymek.1362]

> @"Malediktus.9250" said:

> Nah, I just want encounters that cant be low manned or cheesed

 

Well then, Samarog is just part of the problem. We need to get rid of no updraft gorseval, no gree VG and other design flaws anet implemented to allow for cheese tactics.

[Talindra.4958]

> @"Henry.5713" said:

> My favorite part about Samarog is the door and it's purpose to make you bring a thief.

 

Lol.... And the cinematic ... Arghhhhh.... I make myself look somewhere else to pretend I'm not watching it..

[Talindra.4958]

With 400 ping.. samarog CM lock big red circle at location your character was at 3 sec ago. The player with small red will never able to match you if you are moving around .. it's insta fail xD

still doable if limit movements prior to arrival of the red mechanic :p

[Malediktus.9250]

> @"Kheldorn.5123" said:

> > @"Malediktus.9250" said:

> > Nah, I just want encounters that cant be low manned or cheesed

>

> Well then, Samarog is just part of the problem. We need to get rid of no updraft gorseval, no gree VG and other design flaws anet implemented to allow for cheese tactics.

I would actually like that to be honest

But what are the chances that Anet would change existing bosses this drastically unless they finally decide to have 3 difficulty modes? I can only hope for new bosses to do it better.