Focus 4

[felincyriac.5981]

Can you fix this skill? It rarely works properly. Or if it can't be fixed rework.

[Lahmia.2193]

You know, like guardian had for their near identical focus 4.

[dceptaconroy.7928]

I'm signing this petition.

[NecroSummonsMors.7816]

To be honest guardian old focus 4 was even more usable than the one we've on necros. When guard had the old one I could almost decently clean 2 condis by making it bouncing in melee. Meanwhile our focus 4 Reaper's Touch has sht boucing pattern and useless effects...

[Dadnir.5038]

I'm affraid that if we ask to much a change to necromancer's focus #4 they will improve mesmer's GS #2 skill...

[ZDragon.3046]

> @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> You know, like guardian had for their near identical focus 4.

 

Except the old version of their focus 4 was accurate at max range and not nearly half as bad or in need of a rework.

[felincyriac.5981]

Does anyone from anet even look at the posts in this section?

[Deus Fatorum.2473]

> @"felincyriac.5981" said:

> Does anyone from anet even look at the posts in this section?

 

Guess we will find out, accidentally started another thread, cause i was looking for reapers touch over focus 4 and missed this post, asked for them to be merged.

[Lahmia.2193]

So here's 3 ideas:

1. Simplest idea: speed up the projectile and make it homing.

2. Slight revamp. Remove the bounces and make it a single target non projectile attack (like spinal shivers). Adjust damage/lifeforce/vuln if needed. Also replace regen with might, fury, or quickness.

3. Complete revamp. Do what they did to guardian focus 4. Maybe a bit different, but something single target and damage orientated.

[felincyriac.5981]

> @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> So here's 3 ideas:

> 1. Simplest idea: speed up the projectile and make it homing.

> 2. Slight revamp. Remove the bounces and make it a single target non projectile attack (like spinal shivers). Adjust damage/lifeforce/vuln if needed. Also replace regen with might, fury, or quickness.

> 3. Complete revamp. Do what they did to guardian focus 4. Maybe a bit different, but something single target and damage orientated.

 

maybe something utility based? Focus 5 does good damage already

[Lahmia.2193]

> @"felincyriac.5981" said:

> > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > So here's 3 ideas:

> > 1. Simplest idea: speed up the projectile and make it homing.

> > 2. Slight revamp. Remove the bounces and make it a single target non projectile attack (like spinal shivers). Adjust damage/lifeforce/vuln if needed. Also replace regen with might, fury, or quickness.

> > 3. Complete revamp. Do what they did to guardian focus 4. Maybe a bit different, but something single target and damage orientated.

>

> maybe something utility based? Focus 5 does good damage already

 

5 is only good damage if you remove 3 boons with it. Which, from a pve perspective, isn't happening often.

[KrHome.1920]

I think in ANets logic it's fine now because it became unique since guardian focus has been reworked.

[felincyriac.5981]

> @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > @"felincyriac.5981" said:

> > > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > > So here's 3 ideas:

> > > 1. Simplest idea: speed up the projectile and make it homing.

> > > 2. Slight revamp. Remove the bounces and make it a single target non projectile attack (like spinal shivers). Adjust damage/lifeforce/vuln if needed. Also replace regen with might, fury, or quickness.

> > > 3. Complete revamp. Do what they did to guardian focus 4. Maybe a bit different, but something single target and damage orientated.

> >

> > maybe something utility based? Focus 5 does good damage already

>

> 5 is only good damage if you remove 3 boons with it. Which, from a pve perspective, isn't happening often.

 

true, I've been solely playing wvw on necro and it hits pretty hard there. I decided to abandon pve on necro, instead I use thief.

[Lahmia.2193]

> @"felincyriac.5981" said:

> > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > > @"felincyriac.5981" said:

> > > > @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > > > So here's 3 ideas:

> > > > 1. Simplest idea: speed up the projectile and make it homing.

> > > > 2. Slight revamp. Remove the bounces and make it a single target non projectile attack (like spinal shivers). Adjust damage/lifeforce/vuln if needed. Also replace regen with might, fury, or quickness.

> > > > 3. Complete revamp. Do what they did to guardian focus 4. Maybe a bit different, but something single target and damage orientated.

> > >

> > > maybe something utility based? Focus 5 does good damage already

> >

> > 5 is only good damage if you remove 3 boons with it. Which, from a pve perspective, isn't happening often.

>

> true, I've been solely playing wvw on necro and it hits pretty hard there. I decided to abandon pve on necro, instead I use thief.

 

Aye same. But to the original point, I'd say Reaper's Touch needs to retain its position as a damage skill but to be able to do so more reliably.

[ccrazool.2905]

It bounces a LOT more than the description says it should. My necromancer is fine with it being broken in this way.

[Anchoku.8142]

Turn Reaper's Touch into a 180 radius AoE blast finisher with the same effects?

[Sleepwalker.1398]

If it was re-worked, would adding maybe a reflect skill be too op?

[Dadnir.5038]

> @"Anchoku.8142" said:

> Turn Reaper's Touch into a 180 radius AoE blast finisher with the same effects?

 

Blast lost their value nowadays, why not a range aoe whirl that would hit a few time?

[Anchoku.8142]

> @"Dadnir.5038" said:

> > @"Anchoku.8142" said:

> > Turn Reaper's Touch into a 180 radius AoE blast finisher with the same effects?

>

> Blast lost their value nowadays, why not a range aoe whirl that would hit a few time?

 

That would work, too. Drop the bouncing mechanic and make it a small, ranged AoE with appropriate cast and after-cast delays.

 

A finisher on focus would be nice. It could be on Reaper's Touch or on Spinal Shivers, which does not do as much in PvE. I would not object if one focus skill dropped a combo field and the other a finisher.

 

However, that homing scythe not-a-finisher projectile needs to home better or become something more reliable.