SixVoltCar.5248 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Have Revealed make mesmer clones transparent relative to the real one so you can balance the class properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magolith.9412 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 So let's nerf clones because you aren't good enough to keep track of the mesmer or tab target until you see the real one? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroatheist.9031 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Have you tried getting better? It's a good counter to clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Clones are supposed to be confusing, a general rule of thumb is to look for buffs like signets and food that will be only on the real mesmer, and generally speaking the clones will appear then the mesmer will destealth last if he doesn't break stealth by attacking. You can learn the stealth durations granted by popular skills and attack the one that pops up as stealth would expire. You could also play deadeye, Mark the real mesmer, then shoot at the one with the little glowing dot over his head. Either way clones are fine as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Same thread was posted on PVP https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54510/mesmers-and-revealed#latest I would report mutliple poste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The only, and I mean ONLY literal deception that works right now is Staff, GS or Scepter with 3 clones up, hit Illusionary Ambush (pray for good positioning) and stand still for a moment. If you're lucky that will buy a couple/few seconds in open field; if you're really lucky you might get put out of LoS depending on terrain/obstacles. If you're unlucky you'll either be positioned right in some nice aoe or cleave (protip, don't try this on a bridge or narrow path...), or the clones get cleaved, or the opponent targets right back on to you anyway so you got to move immediately. Any other targeting issues should be directed at gw2's archaic tab targeting system, and not at mesmer itself because identifying the mesmer in all other situations is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zawn.9647 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 you guys just ask to get better because you're mesmer yourselves. its a pain in the ass to have to re-target the mesmer every now and then... this is a really good defense by itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magolith.9412 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 > @"Zawn.9647" said: > you guys just ask to get better because you're mesmer yourselves. its a pain in the kitten to have to re-target the mesmer every now and then... this is a really good defense by itself No, we say to get better because *it's not* a pain in the ass to re-target the mesmer if you're any good. Just because we're mesmers ourselves doesn't mean we don't fight plenty of other mesmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zawn.9647 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 > @"Magolith.9412" said: > > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > you guys just ask to get better because you're mesmer yourselves. its a pain in the kitten to have to re-target the mesmer every now and then... this is a really good defense by itself > > No, we say to get better because *it's not* a pain in the kitten to re-target the mesmer if you're any good. Just because we're mesmers ourselves doesn't mean we don't fight plenty of other mesmers. the other mesmer has to retarget still... that only evens the field... any class vs mesmer has to retarget while the mesmer doesnt :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solori.6025 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > @"Magolith.9412" said: > > > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > > you guys just ask to get better because you're mesmer yourselves. its a pain in the kitten to have to re-target the mesmer every now and then... this is a really good defense by itself > > > > No, we say to get better because *it's not* a pain in the kitten to re-target the mesmer if you're any good. Just because we're mesmers ourselves doesn't mean we don't fight plenty of other mesmers. > > the other mesmer has to retarget still... that only evens the field... any class vs mesmer has to retarget while the mesmer doesnt :P ....Cause Engineer, thief, and ranger all don't have a stealth mechanic that forces you to...oh....retarget.... It's also not like re-targetting is hard.. Unless you are one of those people that think clones have 10k health and dont die from an AA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zawn.9647 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Solori.6025" said: > > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > > @"Magolith.9412" said: > > > > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > > > you guys just ask to get better because you're mesmer yourselves. its a pain in the kitten to have to re-target the mesmer every now and then... this is a really good defense by itself > > > > > > No, we say to get better because *it's not* a pain in the kitten to re-target the mesmer if you're any good. Just because we're mesmers ourselves doesn't mean we don't fight plenty of other mesmers. > > > > the other mesmer has to retarget still... that only evens the field... any class vs mesmer has to retarget while the mesmer doesnt :P > > ....Cause Engineer, thief, and ranger all don't have a stealth mechanic that forces you to...oh....retarget.... > > It's also not like re-targetting is hard.. > Unless you are one of those people that think clones have 10k health and dont die from an AA well if you can't see the difference between having a stealth and having stealth+clones+tons of other things... then its pointless to discuss anything :) have a nice day and keep playing mesmer, wish you luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solori.6025 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > @"Solori.6025" said: > > > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > > > @"Magolith.9412" said: > > > > > @"Zawn.9647" said: > > > > > you guys just ask to get better because you're mesmer yourselves. its a pain in the kitten to have to re-target the mesmer every now and then... this is a really good defense by itself > > > > > > > > No, we say to get better because *it's not* a pain in the kitten to re-target the mesmer if you're any good. Just because we're mesmers ourselves doesn't mean we don't fight plenty of other mesmers. > > > > > > the other mesmer has to retarget still... that only evens the field... any class vs mesmer has to retarget while the mesmer doesnt :P > > > > ....Cause Engineer, thief, and ranger all don't have a stealth mechanic that forces you to...oh....retarget.... > > > > It's also not like re-targetting is hard.. > > Unless you are one of those people that think clones have 10k health and dont die from an AA > > well if you can't see the difference between having a stealth and having stealth+clones+tons of other things... then its pointless to discuss anything :) have a nice day and keep playing mesmer, wish you luck Oh no, many people already do know the difference thats why this is a non issue....we chose to get better instead of crying about it. Good luck on what ever class you play? Hopefully you take the time to practice so we don't have nonsense discussions like this (that should have died in 2012 when people were brand new.) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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