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How can I play with my friends on BG if the server never opens.


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> @"Blodeuyn.2751" said:

> The group of you can move to an open server. Not sure what being linked has to do with your complaint.

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> If Blackgate's population drops low enough it will open. Anet will sort the links out again at the end of October

 

BG is MANUALLY LOCKED by Anet, it has nothing to do with our pop. When we dropped down to T3 after the most recent server relinks we had about 28k as pop, which is HALF the pop of the main servers with a link. So please keep telling servers they open up by decreasing pop, JQ tried it with a blackout in WvW and they failed. BG has high activity and low pop. We queue maybe 1-2 maps on reset night, and are up against servers that have about twice our pop. But you know players outside of BG that hate us because of seasons don't have an unbiased perspective. Anet won't open us because we are the poster child of what they want to prevent with the alliance changes coming in a year or more. So we deal with what we have, we deal with the salt from servers and players that judge us from our past and not our current state.

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> @"Zephyr.8015" said:

 

> BG is MANUALLY LOCKED by Anet, it has nothing to do with our pop. When we dropped down to T3 after the most recent server relinks we had about 28k as pop, which is HALF the pop of the main servers with a link. So please keep telling servers they open up by decreasing pop, JQ tried it with a blackout in WvW and they failed. BG has high activity and low pop.

Do we need to pull out the bar graph again?

>We queue maybe 1-2 maps on reset night, and are up against servers that have about twice our pop.

All those other servers that queue 4 maps a night, right?

>But you know players outside of BG that hate us because of seasons don't have an unbiased perspective.

Everybody else is biased, not you though.

>Anet won't open us because we are the poster child of what they want to prevent with the alliance changes coming in a year or more. So we deal with what we have, we deal with the salt from servers and players that judge us from our past and not our current state.

Your current state : http://gw2stats.com/na/matchups/

Second place, what a disgrace!

 

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> @"Zephyr.8015" said:

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> BG is MANUALLY LOCKED by Anet, it has nothing to do with our pop. When we dropped down to T3 after the most recent server relinks we had about 28k as pop, which is HALF the pop of the main servers with a link. So please keep telling servers they open up by decreasing pop, JQ tried it with a blackout in WvW and they failed. BG has high activity and low pop. We queue maybe 1-2 maps on reset night, and are up against servers that have about twice our pop. But you know players outside of BG that hate us because of seasons don't have an unbiased perspective. Anet won't open us because we are the poster child of what they want to prevent with the alliance changes coming in a year or more. So we deal with what we have, we deal with the salt from servers and players that judge us from our past and not our current state.

 

This whole statements just reeks of biased statements from narrow minded views from the source of the problem.

 

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> @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > @"Zephyr.8015" said:

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> > BG is MANUALLY LOCKED by Anet, it has nothing to do with our pop. When we dropped down to T3 after the most recent server relinks we had about 28k as pop, which is HALF the pop of the main servers with a link. So please keep telling servers they open up by decreasing pop, JQ tried it with a blackout in WvW and they failed. BG has high activity and low pop.

> Do we need to pull out the bar graph again?

 

I love that bar graph because it's 7 months going on 8 months old at this point. So still entirely accurate.

 

> >We queue maybe 1-2 maps on reset night, and are up against servers that have about twice our pop.

> All those other servers that queue 4 maps a night, right?

It's really hard to believe there isn't one server out there that is not generating a queue on reset nights. Never said every other one is queuing 4, but there are more servers generating more map queues than BG on a regular basis.

 

> >But you know players outside of BG that hate us because of seasons don't have an unbiased perspective.

> Everybody else is biased, not you though.

Yes it's completely unbiased that 22 other servers can get an influx of new players because they can either freely transfer, or make a new account there. BG gets the same players for years. *shrugs*

> >Anet won't open us because we are the poster child of what they want to prevent with the alliance changes coming in a year or more. So we deal with what we have, we deal with the salt from servers and players that judge us from our past and not our current state.

> Your current state : http://gw2stats.com/na/matchups/

> Second place, what a disgrace!

I like links too, 2nd place : https://wvwstats.com/timezones High playtime and low pop. Seems legit right?

 

 

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BG still has over double the population of any other server. All one has to do is look at the numbers throughout reset night.

 

Wasn't BG also down in T3/T4 only a few weeks ago? Then week after week they outnumbered their opponents right back into T1? The numbers are there, and people going dormant for a few weeks in order to get their server open or a link isn't going to work. The only way BG will ever open or get a link, is they likely are going to hit T4 and remain in dead last place for 10-12 months at minimum. By then though, hopefully alliances will have made their debut.

 

All this is, is a case of players wanting overwhelming numbers to win, which is exactly why BG over-stacked themselves to begin with. It seems the general mentality of the players on that server is they want to outnumber people so they never lose.

 

In answer to your question OP, the only option you have is your friends need to leave the BG server to join you. BG will never open up, nor will they get a link.

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> @"Loosmaster.8263" said:

> > @"Player.9621" said:

> > honestly i dont get why people dont stack AGAINST bg

> > push them down instead of trying to leech

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> If memory serves me right, that's why SoS is up there. Just need another one and don't play footsies.

 

I thought SoS was there to backcap BG's sloppy seconds, because they sure ain't in the game for the fights.

 

No idea how many people actually got in before BG closed again, but it just means T1 got even more cancerous than it already was.

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> @"Zephyr.8015" said:

> > @"Blodeuyn.2751" said:

> > The group of you can move to an open server. Not sure what being linked has to do with your complaint.

> >

> > If Blackgate's population drops low enough it will open. Anet will sort the links out again at the end of October

>

> BG is MANUALLY LOCKED by Anet, it has nothing to do with our pop. When we dropped down to T3 after the most recent server relinks we had about 28k as pop, which is HALF the pop of the main servers with a link. So please keep telling servers they open up by decreasing pop, JQ tried it with a blackout in WvW and they failed. BG has high activity and low pop. We queue maybe 1-2 maps on reset night, and are up against servers that have about twice our pop. But you know players outside of BG that hate us because of seasons don't have an unbiased perspective. Anet won't open us because we are the poster child of what they want to prevent with the alliance changes coming in a year or more. So we deal with what we have, we deal with the salt from servers and players that judge us from our past and not our current state.

 

Where are you getting this 28k number? If it's from "activity" on one of the wvw stats sites, then that is literally kills + deaths. I think most would agree that is a flawed approximation of activity at best. On top of that, you are excluding the very important fact that BG is one server where those activity numbers are all multiple server links. JQ tried it and succeeded. They were open temporarily, stacked again, got closed again, and all left. About queuing 1-2 maps on reset, that describes most server **pairings** as well. Even though I mentioned its flaws, say BG is "28k" population, whatever that is. Using SBI as an example, it has "34k" right now. But that's not just SBI. That's SBI + DB. If it were just SBI it would probably be around "17k". So it's still entirely possible that BG can have lower activity than most links, but still be the biggest server. See how that works? Enough with the "Anet just hates us yet we still win because we're the feisty underdogs" mentality LOL. Get a grip.

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> @"Zephyr.8015" said:

> > @"Player.9621" said:

> > honestly i dont get why people dont stack AGAINST bg

> > push them down instead of trying to leech

>

> They did, and then anet breaks them up when relinks happen. Its how BG went down to T3.

 

They actually went down because on relink Friday Anet uses Glicko*RNG to create the matchups, and BG just happened to RNG down to tier 3. I don't think they would ever drop to tier 3 using 1 up/1 down. BG is more stacked now, at least in NA, I don't know if they got transfers in off hours timezones.

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