Suggestion: Essence of Luck Converter

[PlagueParade.7942]

So those with excess Essence of Luck tend not to have much to do with it but consume, delete, or save it for some hope of the future. Why not make an Essence of Luck Converter that exchanges it for:

 

EXP Tab: Central exp, HoT exp, or PoF exp (to choose from)

or

Karma Tab: Essence of Luck for karma

 

[YoukiNeko.6047]

They should just limit it, so once you reach cap it stops dropping.

[Evil.1580]

Or increase the magic find cap

[YoukiNeko.6047]

Or remove luck and return luck gear. That was fun while it lasted.

[Absconditus.6804]

They are used for unlocks in guilds, you could start offering to give them away to help other guilds perhaps? I'm not against yet another converter though.

[Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582]

I think allowing crafting of Magic Find Enrichments - ala infusion recipe - but using Exotic Luck would be a perfect usage for it.

[Orion Templar.4589]

> @"YoukiNeko.6047" said:

> Or remove luck and return luck gear. That was fun while it lasted.

 

No thank you to that. (Unless you were kidding - I couldn't tell.) Agreed having some kind of additional use for luck (or raising the cap) would be great.

[Ashantara.8731]

I love the idea of a converter. IMO, it should offer you a choice of karma or laurels in exchange. :)

[YoukiNeko.6047]

> @"Orion Templar.4589" said:

> > @"YoukiNeko.6047" said:

> > Or remove luck and return luck gear. That was fun while it lasted.

>

> No thank you to that. (Unless you were kidding - I couldn't tell.) Agreed having some kind of additional use for luck (or raising the cap) would be great.

 

I wasn't kidding. Luck gear is interesting mechanic. Do you stick to full berserker crushing everything or throw some luck pieces for better loot.

[Torzini.1523]

> @"YoukiNeko.6047" said:

> > @"Orion Templar.4589" said:

> > > @"YoukiNeko.6047" said:

> > > Or remove luck and return luck gear. That was fun while it lasted.

> >

> > No thank you to that. (Unless you were kidding - I couldn't tell.) Agreed having some kind of additional use for luck (or raising the cap) would be great.

>

> I wasn't kidding. Luck gear is interesting mechanic. Do you stick to full berserker crushing everything or throw some luck pieces for better loot.

 

Considering magic find doesn't do all that much, and certainly doesn't compare with gear that lets you crush everything quickly, I have to believe you're asking a rhetorical question.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

Update: my wallet is pleased to have been proven wrong. The 2019 Lunar New Year patch allows us to trade 1000 points of luck to Drooburt for 8 lanterns. It's not much, but it's better than sucking up inventory space.

 

(I should also say that ANet's concern about people who haven't yet maxed Magic Find remains valid. My friends who haven't have been worried that they must choose between gold & AP and boosting account MF. Not the end of the world, but not nothing to them.)

 

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It's unlikely to happen, even though ANet is aware that people are swimming in essences of luck. MF already has a profound dampening effect on the markets and lots of people (even many veterans) run around with less than max MF. Providing a substantive sink benefits those who already maxed, at the expense of those who have not. It would put pressure on the have-nots to push MF up, without affecting the demand from those who already maxed.

 

That said, I'd very much like ANet to provide temporary relief, while they sort things through. I propose they introduce a new, ascended tier of luck essences.

* Convert the existing 'legendary' tier into 'ascended', and leave it as equal to 500 units.

* Add a new 'legendary' tier and set it as equal to 25000 units.

* Add recipes to convert exotics to 'ascended' (formerly legendary), and 'ascended' to (the new) 'legendary'.

 

One (new) legendary essence would thus cover a stack of existing exotic essences.

 

This doesn't change anything in the game, except provide an option to hoard until ANet decides whether and how to deal with excess luck.

 

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The original system was defined to a couple of specific things, within a couple of specific limitations:

* Transfer _Magic Find_ from a gear-specific stat into an account stat.

* Increase the demand for fine & masterwork gear.

* Give veterans an incentive to spend more on fine/masterwork, which benefits newer players.

* Give a mild bonus to those who have played more/longer, without feeling as if it's a penalty for those who don't.

 

All of that worked for a long time, until a couple of things happened:

* A lot of people spent extra to maximize luck-based Magic Find.

* Unidentified Gear, which (as a foe-dropping-loot substitute) is greatly affected by MF.

* Frequently-repeatable farms with high amounts of loot drops, especially AB Multi-Loot (historical) and Istan (current). (Silverwastes is relatively less significant because the total value of its loot is less dependent on MF.)

 

So _some_ players now have max MF and some (even many Head Start veterans) don't. Providing a meaningful luck sink would increase pressure to max, instead of leaving it as an option with some fringe benefits. And providing a time-gated or insubstantial sink doesn't really help people deal with the massive amount of essences high-salvage accounts deal with.

 

##### See also

* https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/38209/after-300-mf-what-to-do-with-luck

* https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/35678/suggestion-request-excess-luck

* https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/14294/essence-of-luck-after-you-reach-300/p1

 

(among many other threads on the topic)

[Rauderi.8706]

Luck, like many other account-bound items we're stuffed to bursting on, should just have a sale value and let us be done with it.

 

Either that, or a vendor that trades in them in exchange for other currencies or bank fluff.

[Palador.2170]

I'd be up for a converter, if it turns it into boosters. They're useful, but not REALLY useful and anyone can get them even without the converter. Or even just a vendor that exchanges EoL for boosters, non-portable but it wouldn't take up an inventory slot. Hells, mystic forge it for boosters, even.

[YoukiNeko.6047]

> @"Torzini.1523" said:

> > @"YoukiNeko.6047" said:

> > > @"Orion Templar.4589" said:

> > > > @"YoukiNeko.6047" said:

> > > > Or remove luck and return luck gear. That was fun while it lasted.

> > >

> > > No thank you to that. (Unless you were kidding - I couldn't tell.) Agreed having some kind of additional use for luck (or raising the cap) would be great.

> >

> > I wasn't kidding. Luck gear is interesting mechanic. Do you stick to full berserker crushing everything or throw some luck pieces for better loot.

>

> Considering magic find doesn't do all that much, and certainly doesn't compare with gear that lets you crush everything quickly, I have to believe you're asking a rhetorical question.

 

Well if they move it back to the gear, then magic find might get a big boost. Given that all other sources of magic find are removed.

[Biff.5312]

> @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> It's unlikely to happen, even though ANet is aware that people are swimming in essences of luck. MF already has a profound dampening effect on the markets and lots of people (even many veterans) run around with less than max MF. Providing a substantive sink benefits those who already maxed, at the expense of those who have not. It would put pressure on the have-nots to push MF up, without affecting the demand from those who already maxed.

 

How about this: Rather than making luck exchangeable, allow players to opt to trade Magic Find % points in exchange for karma or laurels. Then they have to climb back up using luck again. This would largely bypass any concern that those with un-maxed luck are somehow being short-shrifted, as they too could exchange a % for a benefit at the same rate, and have less ground to make up using their luck.

 

[Turkeyspit.3965]

> @"PlagueParade.7942" said:

> So those with excess Essence of Luck tend not to have much to do with it but consume, delete, or save it for some hope of the future. Why not make an Essence of Luck Converter that exchanges it for:

>

> EXP Tab: Central exp, HoT exp, or PoF exp (to choose from)

> or

> Karma Tab: Essence of Luck for karma

>

 

Could also convert to Unbound / Volatile magic? Make something useless useful? I'm only at 190% MF though, so I still have a ways to go before this is a problem for me lol

[PseudoNewb.5468]

Hooray for Droobert conversion...

1000 luck -> 8 Red Festival Lantern -> 7s4c

...and a lot of clicking...

3.52 gold per stack... if you dare click so much. :smile:

 

Well Droobert's rate is better than nothing.

[Zaxares.5419]

Yes indeed! Now all we need is an option that lets us give Drooburt stacks of Exotic luck at a time. Any chance we could get this, ANet? :)

[Hesacon.8735]

> @"Zaxares.5419" said:

> Yes indeed! Now all we need is an option that lets us give Drooburt stacks of Exotic luck at a time. Any chance we could get this, ANet? :)

 

Please, I have over 2,300,000 luck in my bank.

[Naeleen.7601]

You're forgetting that a converter would allow you to convert a limited amount of Luck every day. Which would probably be less than you earn. A special vendor could be added instead, who can sell exclusive items and skins, magic find boosters (after all that's what Luck is meant to be used for; to increase Magic Find %) in exchange of Luck Essences. Doobrut was a... temporary and poor solution. You get some silver for donating 5 exotic essences, requiring immense amounts of clicking to even get something decent from it (5g++).

Upgrading essences to ascended and legendary tier is also a helpful, yet still temporary solution.

[PlagueParade.7942]

I'd rather be able to convert some of them than none of them.