A Good Substitute for Marauder Stats?

[Isle of Stars.3049]

Quick question for WvW specific build as I am running a Core S/D Thief. The only problem that I have is my back item doesn't have Marauder stats available. Any advise for a good substitute is highly appreciated, thanks.

[Hoodie.1045]

The only other stat that comes close to marauder in my opinion is valkyrie. It lacks the precision stat, but offers more power, vitality and ferocity. All you have to do from there is to buy/craft precision food to compensate for the lack of precision in valkyrie stats.

[Phoenix the One.4071]

Or play around with sigil of vision and Hidden Killer trait in combination with valk gear, though it will be a dps lose:)

[Ryan.9387]

Berserker?

[Jugglemonkey.8741]

I have celestial for my backpiece, mostly as I'm too lazy to change it. Good all round choice.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

> @"Isle of Stars.3049" said:

> Quick question for WvW specific build as I am running a Core S/D Thief. The only problem that I have is my back item doesn't have Marauder stats available. Any advise for a good substitute is highly appreciated, thanks.

 

One backpack only generates 52 Power & Precision, 27 Vitality & Ferocity. That's barely enough to matter. Decide which three are most important to you and choose the stat that has those.

 

Since you didn't say which stats you had available, let's presume it's Core only, with 63 primary and 40 to the secondaries

* Valk covers Power & Ferocity|Vitality

* An aggressive choice is Assassin's has Precision + Power|Ferocity (for more crits) or Zerk's Power + Precision|Ferocity for more damage

* A defensive choice (not recommended) is soldier's with Power + Toughness|Vitality

[DeceiverX.8361]

Marauder is always superior with the changes they made to utility foods and how they convert. Kinda sad we went from three viable options to one.

 

That said it depends on your crit chance and what you're doing. You won't notice huge gains being on celestial already, and the berserker+valkyrie hybrid is probably the cloest thing to marauder you'll find without strictly opting for marauder.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

> @"DeceiverX.8361" said:

> Marauder is always superior with the changes they made to utility foods and how they convert.

But the OP is talking about a single item: their back piece. It simply isn't going to make that big a difference to use something else in that slot, until they can farm some LS3 mats to buy e.g. a Relic of [insert your favorite god] or an Icebrood Horn. (Even counting foods and conversions.)

 

 

[Isle of Stars.3049]

> @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > @"Isle of Stars.3049" said:

> > Quick question for WvW specific build as I am running a Core S/D Thief. The only problem that I have is my back item doesn't have Marauder stats available. Any advise for a good substitute is highly appreciated, thanks.

>

> One backpack only generates 52 Power & Precision, 27 Vitality & Ferocity. That's barely enough to matter. Decide which three are most important to you and choose the stat that has those.

>

> Since you didn't say which stats you had available, let's presume it's Core only, with 63 primary and 40 to the secondaries

> * Valk covers Power & Ferocity|Vitality

> * An aggressive choice is Assassin's has Precision + Power|Ferocity (for more crits) or Zerk's Power + Precision|Ferocity for more damage

> * A defensive choice (not recommended) is soldier's with Power + Toughness|Vitality

 

I have enough PvP League Tickets to cover for the four required wings of the Wings of Ascension back item and keen on combining it once I get an access to the game. While still away, I checked the wiki for the stats of the said back item and discovered that Marauder is not available.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

> @"Isle of Stars.3049" said:

> > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > > @"Isle of Stars.3049" said:

> > > Quick question for WvW specific build as I am running a Core S/D Thief. The only problem that I have is my back item doesn't have Marauder stats available. Any advise for a good substitute is highly appreciated, thanks.

> >

> > One backpack only generates 52 Power & Precision, 27 Vitality & Ferocity. That's barely enough to matter. Decide which three are most important to you and choose the stat that has those.

> >

> > Since you didn't say which stats you had available, let's presume it's Core only, with 63 primary and 40 to the secondaries

> > * Valk covers Power & Ferocity|Vitality

> > * An aggressive choice is Assassin's has Precision + Power|Ferocity (for more crits) or Zerk's Power + Precision|Ferocity for more damage

> > * A defensive choice (not recommended) is soldier's with Power + Toughness|Vitality

>

> I have enough PvP League Tickets to cover for the four required wings of the Wings of Ascension back item and keen on combining it once I get an access to the game. While still away, I checked the wiki for the stats of the said back item and discovered that Marauder is not available.

 

The point is: it doesn't matter that much. It's very little difference in stats. If you want to match power & precision, choose either Assassin's or Berserker's. If you want power & vitality, choose Valkyrie. You'll lose 10-15 points on one stat, gain about the same in another, gain the same in a third, and be without 27 points in the fourth.

 

It's not nothing; it's just not enough that it matters all that much.

 

Alternatively, you can spend a little time in one of the LS3 maps to farm one of the other back items I mentioned in another post and get a backpack that does have Marauder's, then reskin it to _Wings of Ascension_. Once you upgrade the Wings, you'll be able to choose whatever you like.

[pureskullz.7536]

It's best just to go do pvp and get the backpiece for that, otherwise, for full armor, I found a combo of valk & assassin's is just about the same as marauders.

[Isle of Stars.3049]

> @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > @"Isle of Stars.3049" said:

> > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > > > @"Isle of Stars.3049" said:

> > > > Quick question for WvW specific build as I am running a Core S/D Thief. The only problem that I have is my back item doesn't have Marauder stats available. Any advise for a good substitute is highly appreciated, thanks.

> > >

> > > One backpack only generates 52 Power & Precision, 27 Vitality & Ferocity. That's barely enough to matter. Decide which three are most important to you and choose the stat that has those.

> > >

> > > Since you didn't say which stats you had available, let's presume it's Core only, with 63 primary and 40 to the secondaries

> > > * Valk covers Power & Ferocity|Vitality

> > > * An aggressive choice is Assassin's has Precision + Power|Ferocity (for more crits) or Zerk's Power + Precision|Ferocity for more damage

> > > * A defensive choice (not recommended) is soldier's with Power + Toughness|Vitality

> >

> > I have enough PvP League Tickets to cover for the four required wings of the Wings of Ascension back item and keen on combining it once I get an access to the game. While still away, I checked the wiki for the stats of the said back item and discovered that Marauder is not available.

>

> The point is: it doesn't matter that much. It's very little difference in stats. If you want to match power & precision, choose either Assassin's or Berserker's. If you want power & vitality, choose Valkyrie. You'll lose 10-15 points on one stat, gain about the same in another, gain the same in a third, and be without 27 points in the fourth.

>

> It's not nothing; it's just not enough that it matters all that much.

>

> Alternatively, you can spend a little time in one of the LS3 maps to farm one of the other back items I mentioned in another post and get a backpack that does have Marauder's, then reskin it to _Wings of Ascension_. Once you upgrade the Wings, you'll be able to choose whatever you like.

 

No, thanks for the advise; I'm fine with the PvP back item as I don't have much time to get online and farm LW S3. I find the Valkyrie stats much suitable then just go with consumables to get over with the minor loss of other stats.

[Illconceived Was Na.9781]

> @"Isle of Stars.3049" said:

> I find the Valkyrie stats much suitable

A fine choice indeed :)

 

 

[DemonSeed.3528]

There is actually another stat available that is another alternative for marauders and berserker called "berserker+valkyrie" if you'd like to try.

[Turk.5460]

> @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said:

> I have celestial for my backpiece, mostly as I'm too lazy to change it. Good all round choice.

 

Just do the winterberry reward track a few times and blammo, new stuff.

[Jugglemonkey.8741]

> @"Turk.5460" said:

> > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said:

> > I have celestial for my backpiece, mostly as I'm too lazy to change it. Good all round choice.

>

> Just do the winterberry reward track a few times and blammo, new stuff.

 

Yeah, I like my Mawdrey tho haha. Also I swap between power, hybrid and condi a lot, and I have celestial infusions in it, it just makes things simpler not having to bother changing it when I change build. Tbh the stat difference on a backpiece is pretty small anyways.