alchemist.6851 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Seriously, the change completely makes this skill uninspiring and contradicts the name. anet please change skill name too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgs.6103 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 And make the icon the middle finger as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal.3194 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"borgs.6103" said: > And make the icon the middle finger as well... I think a gravestone would look much better and fitting, considering they just killed the poor signet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Is the new version still affected by Boon Duration? Or is it just a flat 5 sec extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartpains.7312 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"borgs.6103" said: > And make the icon the middle finger as well... but then when you cast it the animation .. ... it might be too OP in wvw and spvp, you down someone and use it xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasmaniajones.4376 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Zoe.8310" said: > Is the new version still affected by Boon Duration? Or is it just a flat 5 sec extension? 5 seconds regardless of boon duration - tested on characters with 0% and 60% boon duration and got the same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 So...... I can throw away all my Boon Duration food, gear, signets, and sigils......? Thanks Anet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 It is kinda lazy ajustement sorry to say. Mimic as well is a useless skill that been reduced to 40 sec. They could reduce it to 5 sec & i still would'nt use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasmaniajones.4376 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Also regarding Mimic, it's 40 seconds **+ the recharge of whatever skill was used to activate it.** So if Signet of Inspiration gets used with it you still have to wait 70 seconds for Mimic to recharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"tasmaniajones.4376" said: > Also regarding Mimic, it's 40 seconds **+ the recharge of whatever skill was used to activate it.** So if Signet of Inspiration gets used with it you still have to wait 70 seconds for Mimic to recharge. Technically, that means it's 5 seconds faster than it was before (75). But who cares, because SoI is crap now anyways. why waste your utilities pairing the two anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPMN.1483 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Its bugged right now, it only gives 3 s of boons - not 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viquing.8254 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The title of this thread <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Zoe.8310" said: > > @"tasmaniajones.4376" said: > > Also regarding Mimic, it's 40 seconds **+ the recharge of whatever skill was used to activate it.** So if Signet of Inspiration gets used with it you still have to wait 70 seconds for Mimic to recharge. > > Technically, that means it's 5 seconds faster than it was before (75). But who cares, because SoI is kitten now anyways. why waste your utilities pairing the two anymore. Use it with portal and you can enjoy a recharge of nearly 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"apharma.3741" said: > > @"Zoe.8310" said: > > > @"tasmaniajones.4376" said: > > > Also regarding Mimic, it's 40 seconds **+ the recharge of whatever skill was used to activate it.** So if Signet of Inspiration gets used with it you still have to wait 70 seconds for Mimic to recharge. > > > > Technically, that means it's 5 seconds faster than it was before (75). But who cares, because SoI is kitten now anyways. why waste your utilities pairing the two anymore. > > Use it with portal and you can enjoy a recharge of nearly 2 minutes. lolol... mimic is such a trash skill now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgs.6103 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Metal.3194" said: > > @"borgs.6103" said: > > And make the icon the middle finger as well... > > I think a gravestone would look much better and fitting, considering they just killed the poor signet. Nah, it's perfect. "Mesmer, pls gib boons!" "Oh you want boons? HERE!" "Signet of Middle Finger" "I didn't git boons. :anguished: " "Well, too bad. I only increase boons now. Enjoy 5 more seconds of swiftness and retal!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarkaTarquol.4856 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I actually think the nerf to Bountiful Disillusionment hits Boonshare way harder than SoI's nerf did. SoI really only got hit with a 1-second nerf. My reasoning? Most Chrono boons are also sourced from outside or boons they applied in an area, meaning they're also applied for mostly the same duration on your allies, so now you're just doing the same thing basically - extending their boons by 5 seconds instead of giving them the same boons but for 6 seconds. BD's nerf means that Chronos can't stack the harder to grant boons like Vigor and Stab (RIP) on other allies as easily, but the SoI nerf is not the evil party for the boonshare nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"TarkaTarquol.4856" said: > I actually think the nerf to Bountiful Disillusionment hits Boonshare way harder than SoI's nerf did. SoI really only got hit with a 1-second nerf. My reasoning? Most Chrono boons are also sourced from outside or boons they applied in an area, meaning they're also applied for mostly the same duration on your allies, so now you're just doing the same thing basically - extending their boons by 5 seconds instead of giving them the same boons but for 6 seconds. BD's nerf means that Chronos can't stack the harder to grant boons like Vigor and Stab (RIP) on other allies as easily, but the SoI nerf is not the evil party for the boonshare nerf. Yes, the nerf to Bountiful Disillusionment is massive -- MIxed feelings on Signet of Inspiration since it was also decoupled from Boon Duration ... so we no longer need Boon Duration, so we can put that stat into something else, but it comes at the cost of 1-second to our output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarkaTarquol.4856 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Zoe.8310" said: > > @"TarkaTarquol.4856" said: > > I actually think the nerf to Bountiful Disillusionment hits Boonshare way harder than SoI's nerf did. SoI really only got hit with a 1-second nerf. My reasoning? Most Chrono boons are also sourced from outside or boons they applied in an area, meaning they're also applied for mostly the same duration on your allies, so now you're just doing the same thing basically - extending their boons by 5 seconds instead of giving them the same boons but for 6 seconds. BD's nerf means that Chronos can't stack the harder to grant boons like Vigor and Stab (RIP) on other allies as easily, but the SoI nerf is not the evil party for the boonshare nerf. > > Yes, the nerf to Bountiful Disillusionment is massive -- > > MIxed feelings on Signet of Inspiration since it was also decoupled from Boon Duration ... so we no longer need Boon Duration, so we can put that stat into something else, but it comes at the cost of 1-second to our output. > > Wasn't the boon duration also helpful for upkeep on Quickness/Alacrity? Or was it possible to 100% uptime those without investment and I'm just a derp? ~~(Merp with the "M" replaced for a "D" is censored? I'm sorry, what?)~~ (Aaaaand now it's uncensored. I give up.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"TarkaTarquol.4856" said: > Wasn't the boon duration also helpful for upkeep on Quickness/Alacrity? Or was it possible to 100% uptime those without investment and I'm just a kitten? I guess when you're taking the skill **Improved Alacrity**, it's _kinda_ helpful still :-\ But overall, Boon Duration is far less powerful now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik.7560 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I get the bountiful disillusionment and signet of inspiration+mimic provided insane boonshare at a small cost, but come on surely there's better alternatives than completely killing the spec. The boonshare aspect was unique and enjoyable. Make the boon application more difficult and require more traits or utilities OK, but this is a joke chaos is dead soi is dead, chrono is dead. All you are in WvW is an IoL and CC bot while you stand still 90% of the time. In pve you're once again an alacrity and quickness slave with minimal access to other boons. Tldr this patch is awful I don't have any motive to login to my mesmer again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 previous incarnation of the signet was broke. too bad mes isn't op in pve anymore lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kas.3509 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I liked how the mesmer was just after distortion nerf. Seemed fine then. Rotation was long - like 50 + steps - but it felt rewarding to pull it all off while tanking and doing other mechanics. Then (lately) they reduced chrono to easy buff bot and then(now) they killed it. That's sad. Chrono was fine and quite fun before you started changing everything about it. BTW "Singet of Middle Finger" "Singet of Uninspiration" lol. Well xd Thats fitting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon.4583 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Hm, i would call it Signet of Demotivation, cuz each time you use it you feel frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolivia.3219 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I'd say Illusionary Inspiration would be a fitting name.... oh wait....that already in use? Lesser Signet of Inspiration then... ...oh darn... been removed...meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xstein.2187 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Was going to look for other traits or skills that needed their names changed, but oddly enough "Lost Time" seems to fit in pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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