CRrabbit.1284 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 One is +5 sec, the other is +66%. Which is stronger ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 unless stances start affecting 10 ppl chrono is still better imo. plus focus pull + double elite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRrabbit.1284 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > unless stances start affecting 10 ppl chrono is still better imo. > plus focus pull + double elite well. But what if Moa stance PLUS a Doyak (Group CC immune + 33% DR) PLUS OWP (huge damage boost) ?? Vs the pull + well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"CRrabbit.1284" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > unless stances start affecting 10 ppl chrono is still better imo. > > plus focus pull + double elite well. > > But what if Moa stance PLUS a Doyak (Group CC immune + 33% DR) PLUS OWP (huge damage boost) ?? Vs the pull + well ? problem with that is soulbeast doesn't do anything exceptional. you would most likely be losing a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threather.9354 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > unless stances start affecting 10 ppl chrono is still better imo. > plus focus pull + double elite well. Chrono is good ye but I don't think mesmer has a reliable way of applying alacrity to allies outside shield 5. Same goes for quickness. Might as well go illusion of life, veil and mimic or something without the signet. But definitely mesmer took a super big hit with the signet change. Mesmer will obviously be still viable because 3 illusion of lifes can easily safe 6+ people meaning you're worth more than 6 people Renegade is good at applying alacrity to allies so we might see more of those. But then you don't need chrono. > @"CRrabbit.1284" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > unless stances start affecting 10 ppl chrono is still better imo. > > plus focus pull + double elite well. > > But what if Moa stance PLUS a Doyak (Group CC immune + 33% DR) PLUS OWP (huge damage boost) ?? Vs the pull + well ? Ranger has no good weapons for wvw fights. GS 2, warhorn 5 and axe 5 are maybe the only useful skills? Thats the issue with ranger, you won't deal any damage, you won't remove boons, you have suboptimal cleanse and heals. Yes you might apply some normal boons like regen, protection, fury, might etc but you can get those from elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 > @"Threather.9354" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > unless stances start affecting 10 ppl chrono is still better imo. > > plus focus pull + double elite well. > > Chrono is good ye but I don't think mesmer has a reliable way of applying alacrity to allies outside shield 5. Same goes for quickness. > > Might as well go illusion of life, veil and mimic or something without the signet. But definitely mesmer took a super big hit with the signet change. Mesmer will obviously be still viable because 3 illusion of lifes can easily safe 6+ people meaning you're worth more than 6 people > > Renegade is good at applying alacrity to allies so we might see more of those. But then you don't need chrono. > > > @"CRrabbit.1284" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > unless stances start affecting 10 ppl chrono is still better imo. > > > plus focus pull + double elite well. > > > > But what if Moa stance PLUS a Doyak (Group CC immune + 33% DR) PLUS OWP (huge damage boost) ?? Vs the pull + well ? > > Ranger has no good weapons for wvw fights. GS 2, warhorn 5 and axe 5 are maybe the only useful skills? Thats the issue with ranger, you won't deal any damage, you won't remove boons, you have suboptimal cleanse and heals. Yes you might apply some normal boons like regen, protection, fury, might etc but you can get those from elsewhere. I dunno OWP does an extra 1k on every hit so sharing that with some necros on a push would be pretty decent as well as a none corruptible protection and soft CC immunity and I can see it having a niche. It really would need testing though and the question is always how does that compare to mesmer pull, illusion of life, veil and gravity well in utility and general picking up kills? I still think mesmer will be run if not because it's easier than change but the stance share trait always struck me as one to keep and eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 True Nature: Glint vs Signet of Inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 It does not matter how good ranger utilitys are when ranger doesn’t have a single viable weapon for zerg fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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