Pwent.2639 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Gliding didn't add anything good to WvW, why are we trying to add more mechanics that make the game mode duller. Also why is gliding still in this game mode. The only real change is it makes some easy to defend objectives easier to defend, and easier for people to escape fights when it isn't going their way. If you are so eager on killing the game mode more at least make Eotm playable for roaming and fights again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 In your opinion. Gliding added a lot of depth to WvW and fit even more into vertical aspects of the maps. This was a welcome change. It also added more value in owning land that you choose to fight over since it added more strategy into want you want to hold and what allows you to move around faster. Fights now were no longer X & Y but you had to consider Z. IMO, they added a lot of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwent.2639 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > In your opinion. Gliding added a lot of depth to WvW and fit even more into vertical aspects of the maps. This was a welcome change. It also added more value in owning land that you choose to fight over since it added more strategy into want you want to hold and what allows you to move around faster. Fights now were no longer X & Y but you had to consider Z. IMO, they added a lot of value. The vertical aspect was more important beforehand because it gave terrain that was potentially deadly and areas were fight dodgers couldn't escape easily. Defending objectives with even numbers was already easy enough. Maybe if you made it so you can't start gliding when already in combat it would be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkamania.7561 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Gliding wasn't even as bad as people thought. I'm guessing mounts will be the same. People panic a little much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I'll reserve judgement on the mount, since I was dead against Gliding and it turned out to be a great addition to wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 > @"Pwent.2639" said: > > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > > In your opinion. Gliding added a lot of depth to WvW and fit even more into vertical aspects of the maps. This was a welcome change. It also added more value in owning land that you choose to fight over since it added more strategy into want you want to hold and what allows you to move around faster. Fights now were no longer X & Y but you had to consider Z. IMO, they added a lot of value. > > The vertical aspect was more important beforehand because it gave terrain that was potentially deadly and areas were fight dodgers couldn't escape easily. Defending objectives with even numbers was already easy enough. Maybe if you made it so you can't start gliding when already in combat it would be alright. Ah, but there is also the added fun of knockbacks and such against gliders that's a side game on it own. To watch someone who thought they were safe go splat, priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugheszie.6291 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The mount might be a good thing, I'm looking forward to obtaining it. I don't like the idea that now zerging will be super fast, i.e. we all mount up and storm to new locations really fast, BUT it could be good. We'll see. And if they can bash down doors, I guess my Rams are pointless XD Unless we can get dismounted obv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gebrechen.5643 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I like gliding. Thanks for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > The mount might be a good thing, I'm looking forward to obtaining it. I don't like the idea that now zerging will be super fast, i.e. we all mount up and storm to new locations really fast, BUT it could be good. We'll see. And if they can bash down doors, I guess my Rams are pointless XD Unless we can get dismounted obv. > > Yeah, not crafting any guild rams for this weekend lol. Might be a good time to place some low bids on the TP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugheszie.6291 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > > The mount might be a good thing, I'm looking forward to obtaining it. I don't like the idea that now zerging will be super fast, i.e. we all mount up and storm to new locations really fast, BUT it could be good. We'll see. And if they can bash down doors, I guess my Rams are pointless XD Unless we can get dismounted obv. > > > > > > Yeah, not crafting any guild rams for this weekend lol. Might be a good time to place some low bids on the TP. It's going to be interesting at least. It's something new for us. It'll change the way we play and plan. It'll add a new dynamic to WVW. Inc on mounts > *Mount up* > Do big circle really fast > *boom suprise* > new fight. *Zerg inc* > *Mount to other side of map to take their keep* > *Sudden arrival of enemy* It might make WVW encounters happen even faster, who knows? We'll find out. :) The only thing that will be super annoying will be the queues from all the PVE players trying to get the mount, but that'll die off. At least we might get to keep some of the PVE players who find they enjoy WVW and otherwise, have not bothered with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > > > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > > > The mount might be a good thing, I'm looking forward to obtaining it. I don't like the idea that now zerging will be super fast, i.e. we all mount up and storm to new locations really fast, BUT it could be good. We'll see. And if they can bash down doors, I guess my Rams are pointless XD Unless we can get dismounted obv. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, not crafting any guild rams for this weekend lol. Might be a good time to place some low bids on the TP. > > It's going to be interesting at least. It's something new for us. It'll change the way we play and plan. It'll add a new dynamic to WVW. > > Inc on mounts > *Mount up* > Do big circle really fast > *boom suprise* > new fight. > *Zerg inc* > *Mount to other side of map to take their keep* > *Sudden arrival of enemy* > > It might make WVW encounters happen even faster, who knows? > > We'll find out. :) > > The only thing that will be super annoying will be the queues from all the PVE players trying to get the mount, but that'll die off. At least we might get to keep some of the PVE players who find they enjoy WVW and otherwise, have not bothered with it. Agree. Again played Warhammer Online for 5+ years and we had mounts, roamers and havoc were alive and strong, its matter of adapting. Already thinking about the hit and run tactics to pull the enemy zerg off chasing a havoc and loving map chat when we are able to run them head long into our zerg or if it allows out zerg on another map to knock out a T3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etria.3642 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Love gliding, can't wait for mounts. And usually I hate chaaaaaaaange. But not this one. This one is much excite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limodriver.4106 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 dont worry the hater will be the first one to buy the mount skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugheszie.6291 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Well, as a commander that applies the sudden charge rule to my groups, I like the idea of mounts. Since mostly these days, people stack, wait, sit on a corner, then move in, pull back and repeat for 5 mins - my sudden charge without any pre-plan more often than not, sends the enemy running. Mounts will make my approach even more powerful! "Fight till the death! CHARGE!" Disclaimer: Often I get everyone killed. But we have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lothefallen.7081 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 > > > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > It might make WVW encounters happen even faster, who knows? > > We'll find out. :) > > The only thing that will be super annoying will be the queues from all the PVE players trying to get the mount, but that'll die off. At least we might get to keep some of the PVE players who find they enjoy WVW and otherwise, have not bothered with it. I'm assuming this was their rationale. I'm also assuming they're trying to get PvE players into WvW before the alliance update. People may panic, but ultimately, I think they're trying to make WvW appealing to those who otherwise never touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugheszie.6291 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I just spent 10 mins chasing a theif in EBG... Hate them so much, just run run run away... Wimps! If i had that mount... Different story! lol Oh wait he'd have one too... So the thieves will still be wimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDse.7623 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > I just spent 10 mins chasing a theif in EBG... Hate them so much, just run run run away... Wimps! > > If i had that mount... Different story! lol > > Oh wait he'd have one too... So the thieves will still be wimps. why are you chasing him for 10 minutes if you dont enjoy it ? :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugheszie.6291 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 > @"MUDse.7623" said: > > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > > I just spent 10 mins chasing a theif in EBG... Hate them so much, just run run run away... Wimps! > > > > If i had that mount... Different story! lol > > > > Oh wait he'd have one too... So the thieves will still be wimps. > > why are you chasing him for 10 minutes if you dont enjoy it ? :3 I never said I didn't enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDse.7623 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > > @"MUDse.7623" said: > > > @"Hugheszie.6291" said: > > > I just spent 10 mins chasing a theif in EBG... Hate them so much, just run run run away... Wimps! > > > > > > If i had that mount... Different story! lol > > > > > > Oh wait he'd have one too... So the thieves will still be wimps. > > > > why are you chasing him for 10 minutes if you dont enjoy it ? :3 > > I never said I didn't enjoy it. if you enjoy chasing them, why do you hate them running away? would you prefer them killing you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zok.4956 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 > @"Pwent.2639" said: > Gliding didn't add anything good to WvW, why are we trying to add more mechanics that make the game mode duller. Also why is gliding still in this game mode. I like gliding, its fun. And I will definitively give the WvW-mount a try before I judge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Xsr.1672 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Disagree.. Love gliding and will probably love mounts. Or do we just post if we agree with you? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gert.7698 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I like gliding, and i think I'm gonna like mounts too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 > @"Pwent.2639" said: > > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > > In your opinion. Gliding added a lot of depth to WvW and fit even more into vertical aspects of the maps. This was a welcome change. It also added more value in owning land that you choose to fight over since it added more strategy into want you want to hold and what allows you to move around faster. Fights now were no longer X & Y but you had to consider Z. IMO, they added a lot of value. > > The vertical aspect was more important beforehand because it gave terrain that was potentially deadly and areas were fight dodgers couldn't escape easily. Defending objectives with even numbers was already easy enough. Maybe if you made it so you can't start gliding when already in combat it would be alright. This. By reducing the impact of terrain features on the battlefield, gliding reduced tactical play IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward H Angle.1407 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 i say we all riot and quit wvw. this is the worst thing ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timelord.8190 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 > @"hunkamania.7561" said: > Gliding wasn't even as bad as people thought. I'm guessing mounts will be the same. People panic a little much It was actually worse than i thougt. Not only is it silly that birds attack you when you glide outside of your borders. The game can't even keep the gliders in sync. + It added several more ways to do exploits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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