Erzian.5218 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Idk why you are discussing pets. Pets are pretty much non-existent when the metagame is heavily dominated by overpowered scourges and spellbreakers. Ranger (just like most other builds atm) is a wasted slot on your team, that should be filled with scourge/spellbreaker/firebrand instead as they outperform ranger no matter how well the ranger plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I fucking called it. Nerf gazelle so its useless. Its autos can't even hit and they didn't fix anything else. Fuck this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Cutter.9376 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yeah, that's about what I expected. Bristleback and Smokescale all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 "Rock Gazelle—Kick: Strikes from this skill have been increased from 2 to 5. Damage per strike has been reduced by 53%. Vulnerability per strike has been changed from 3 stacks for 6 seconds to 1 stack for 8 seconds." W T F Why would they do this? It was like an idle animation to begin with, now it's "How to Dance, vol 1" for the Gazelle. It still has 130 range AAs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elxdark.9702 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 nerf was needed, only biased ranger mains wanted this not to get nerfed everybody else knew this was broken af. They need to fix the AA from gazelle though, it doesn't do anything literally because it doesn't even hit lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 > @Elxdark.9702 said: > nerf was needed, only biased ranger mains wanted this not to get nerfed everybody else knew this was broken af. > > They need to fix the AA from gazelle though, it doesn't do anything literally because it doesn't even hit lol. "Everybody knew this was broken af." FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Play.6104 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 > @"Unholy Pillager.3791" said: > > @Turk.5460 said: > > I don't understand why this guy is so stalwartly defending an obvious bug that is detrimental to any sort of competitive experience. > > Because "bug fixes" on rangers and pets have a notable history of removing either the pet/skill/trait in question from viability, or simple remove the profession entirely from the meta. Plus, even with the bug, Rangers are not nearly as powerful as Scourges and Spellbreakers right now. > > There are 55 Ranger pets in the game right now. At any given time, fewer than half a dozen of them are even considered viable, and even those usually have detrimental bugs (such as the fact that only a few pets are affected at all by quickness) and/or cannot reliably hit moving targets. That is a serious problem, and I think that it needs to be addressed rather than ignored. It is just your classes core mechanic. So entitled to think it should be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks.2057 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 > @Jinks.2057 said: > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > Really? I think most Ranger mains accept the nerf as 100% necessary, but the fact that they changed kick to stay in place even longer and didn't fix the ability of the Gazelle to hit a moving target (130-150 range and needing to stop moving to attack) at all means this pet now goes on the junk pile that consists of the other 53 pets that are useless for PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderzShadow.2506 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 > @Jinks.2057 said: > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > Really? I'm not surprised. This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despond.2174 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It needed nerfing of course but it's a big one, so back to HOT pets for me, my Gazelle was hitting so softly today it just wasn't worth even having the knock-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks.2057 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > Really? > > I'm not surprised. > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Jinks.2057 said: > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > Really? > > > > I'm not surprised. > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks.2057 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet So it went from 20k+ to just 3k LOL ok sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlater.6789 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Man I've been 1hit ko'd by this so many times that when I see a ranger pull this out I just leave the point. Glad it got nerfed, this pet is still strong and is meta for small hit box cc in place of pink moa. Even in pvp it's still not horrible because it has some pretty juicy cc. So stupid how people whine about the overturned burst damage of 1 new cc oriented pet getting fixed while there are entire new elite specs that are totally trash and useless in every game mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolbox.9375 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Zlater.6789 said: > So stupid how people whine about the overturned burst damage of 1 new cc oriented pet getting fixed while there are entire new elite specs that are totally trash and useless in every game mode. Like Soulbeast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miellyn.6847 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Jinks.2057 said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet > > So it went from 20k+ to just 3k > > LOL ok sure Yes. The damage itself was fine. The bug that caused the 20k+ needed to be fixed and nothing else. But most players can't distinguish between bugfix and nerf. The bugfix was fine. The nerf was overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks.2057 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Miellyn.6847 said: > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > > > > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet > > > > So it went from 20k+ to just 3k > > > > LOL ok sure > > Yes. The damage itself was fine. The bug that caused the 20k+ needed to be fixed and nothing else. But most players can't distinguish between bugfix and nerf. > The bugfix was fine. The nerf was overkill. nope the pet hit for 20k on the initial hit The bug was after getting downed the pet would proc the downed portion of the skill instantly deleting a player To see people complaining about a the much needed damage nerf claiming it's over an 85% damage nerf is pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo haddad.2815 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Kitten.4162 said: > Gazelles can hit me for 15-18k with a charge before knocking me down for another 6k within 2-3 seconds. > > I've tested this several times within a dueling server, after I witnessed it in my combat logs several times within Plat+ ranked games. > > That's literally my entire health pool, with a cc in mind - while the ranger is hitting me on top of that. :s > > I never had that much of a problem with any of the HoT pets, so I feel like it's an overtuning issue overall. :# > > What do you guys think? 1- use your endurance on the gazelle 2-many professions can block/replenish their hp pool to 100% while using stability there are lot of ways to counter this you can try some on a 1v1 you'll see everything is easy to counter but you can't counter everything with a single build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substance E.4852 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Jinks.2057 said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet > > So it went from 20k+ to just 3k > > LOL ok sure Go use the pet on a golem if you doubt it though you might actually have to make a ranger first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Jinks.2057 said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet > > So it went from 20k+ to just 3k > > LOL ok sure No it went from 5-6k to 2-3k. 20k was with a lot of damage modifiers, it wasn't the base damage. Get your facts straight before you start laughing at people who are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon.6480 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 ANET, in case you don't know, the pet needed a bug fix, but instead you made it useless. #Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Jinks.2057 said: > > @Miellyn.6847 said: > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > > > > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > > > > > > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet > > > > > > So it went from 20k+ to just 3k > > > > > > LOL ok sure > > > > Yes. The damage itself was fine. The bug that caused the 20k+ needed to be fixed and nothing else. But most players can't distinguish between bugfix and nerf. > > The bugfix was fine. The nerf was overkill. > > nope the pet hit for 20k on the initial hit > > The bug was after getting downed the pet would proc the downed portion of the skill instantly deleting a player > > To see people complaining about a the much needed damage nerf claiming it's over an 85% damage nerf is pretty funny. The pet hit for 5-6k on the initial hit. Anything else required a critical hit with boons and damage modifiers. For the record, it now hits 3k, which is about 2 auto attacks on Electric Wyvern, every 16 seconds. Its trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @Miellyn.6847 said: > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > > > > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet > > > > So it went from 20k+ to just 3k > > > > LOL ok sure > > Yes. The damage itself was fine. The bug that caused the 20k+ needed to be fixed and nothing else. But most players can't distinguish between bugfix and nerf. > The bugfix was fine. The nerf was overkill. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon.6480 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > @Miellyn.6847 said: > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > > > @EnderzShadow.2506 said: > > > > > > > > @Jinks.2057 said: > > > > > > > > Are people really upset and surprised by this nerf??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised. > > > > > > > This is what Anet does. Heavy handed nerf, without any real fix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gazelle with it's unrealiable instastomp was the only worthwhile *feature. > > > > > > > It wasn't a bug. It was a tooltip fix, ouila. > > > > > > > > > > > > The fact it hit for over 20k on the initial hit was a problem. As it is right now you can still get over a hit for over 10k. > > > > > > > > > > Its not worth the setup now. It averages 3k. Garbage pet > > > > > > > > So it went from 20k+ to just 3k > > > > > > > > LOL ok sure > > > > > > Yes. The damage itself was fine. The bug that caused the 20k+ needed to be fixed and nothing else. But most players can't distinguish between bugfix and nerf. > > > The bugfix was fine. The nerf was overkill. > > > > nope the pet hit for 20k on the initial hit > > > > The bug was after getting downed the pet would proc the downed portion of the skill instantly deleting a player > > > > To see people complaining about a the much needed damage nerf claiming it's over an 85% damage nerf is pretty funny. > > The pet hit for 5-6k on the initial hit. Anything else required a critical hit with boons and damage modifiers. > > For the record, it now hits 3k, which is about 2 auto attacks on Electric Wyvern, every 16 seconds. Its trash. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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