Last Crysis.1934 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Ok I understand that the Skyscale is required for getting vision but completing the Vision achievements felt really easy when compared to the skyscale. Don't get me wrong I loved the skyscale achievements and did not have a problem with the timegate. I just wish it would have been a little more involved to get vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexi.1398 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Aurora is structured the same way; the vision achievemens will take a lot of committment to get if doing ls4 from the start because the season mastery items, alone, will account for a large chunk of the time you require to do it (and even if you do get them from reward tracks, various things still require timely committment that is unaviodable- for example, one might say the requirement for astral and dragonsblood weapons could be compared to the need for wayfarer's henge). Vision will not seem so complicated if you did the episodes as they came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Are you kidding? You need to have achievements and mastering every ls4 zone. Plus needing to make crafting for each chapter. Vision is way more convoluted than the skyscale ever could be. Seriously, the skyscale collections does not remotely come near Vision in effort needed. The skyscale collections is easilly done with a guide and some gold if you dont have the charged quartz, then spending a bit grinding in various ls 4 maps. Most did not have astral weapons crafted, and went directly to stellar weapons. There was a massive outcry over stellar weapons not counting. 6x astral weapons is 3000 kralkaltite ore, 3000 powdered rose quartz. I spent about a week farming the 3 hearts in istan on 6 characters. took a single day of farming the 250x 6 mats in comparision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hynax.9536 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Like said before, vision probably felt easier for you because you had something previously done from LS4 episodes. For anyone starting from 0 this would take long enough, even longer than skyscale since the time-gates were heavily reduced. I had literally everything but astral weapons done and got an akili bugged for days together with the endless time gate to unlock the astral weapons and that for me felt a hell longer than any skyscale stuff i did before, i could not say i didn't enjoyed tho because the brandstone meteor farms in istan were really fun. I believe vision collection is just fine, and is the way everyone expected it to be ( just like aurora ). ~~Now that Coalescence from RAIDS having interaction with vision and aurora is a real frustration for me cus i can't see myself doing raids anytime soon~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Aurora did not involve crafting elements tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faaris.8013 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 > @"LucianDK.8615" said: > Are you kidding? You need to have achievements and mastering every ls4 zone. Plus needing to make crafting for each chapter. Vision is way more convoluted than the skyscale ever could be. You only need to do the achievements in Jahai Bluffs. All other armor pieces can be aquired through reward tracks (which I did). And you "only" need to craft Astral and Dragonsblood weapons, so for 2 chapters, not all. If you do all achievements for all chapters though, it's clearly more time consuming anD NERVE WRACKING THAN THE sKYSCALE COLLECTIONS: (sorry for caps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Listen to yourself, reward tracks. If you dont have any wvw potions, its a horrific amount of time spent in wvw. I stand by my point, skyscale does not come -remotely- close to the effort needed for vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etria.3642 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Don't forget the requiem armor. And the 32 slot can be frustrating if you don't get the diamond drop easily. Plus the other events required for this. Also don't forget requiem armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Also not to forget, you are at a serious disadvantage now in WvW if you dont have the Warclaw. Plus needing to be lucky that theres a zerg present in WvW. Much easier to knock off the achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 > @"Last Crysis.1934" said: > Ok I understand that the Skyscale is required for getting vision but completing the Vision achievements felt really easy when compared to the skyscale. Don't get me wrong I loved the skyscale achievements and did not have a problem with the timegate. I just wish it would have been a little more involved to get vision. Let me guess, you had most of them done from completing them during the episode was live? Yeah, then it was way easier. Otherwise, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safandula.8723 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 > @"Last Crysis.1934" said: > Ok I understand that the Skyscale is required for getting vision but completing the Vision achievements felt really easy when compared to the skyscale. Don't get me wrong I loved the skyscale achievements and did not have a problem with the timegate. I just wish it would have been a little more involved to get vision. Which parts of skyscale were hard for u? Not skyscale, nor a vision achis were hard, but: Skyscal needed reasonable collections to grow a dragon, which everyone had to start from beggining Vision -here 95% of time needed for this collection, could be spent before release of the trinket. So if u were grinding ls4 for this whole time, u received free trinket precursor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faaris.8013 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 > @"Etria.3642" said: > Don't forget the requiem armor. And the 32 slot can be frustrating if you don't get the diamond drop easily. Plus the other events required for this. > > Also don't forget requiem armor. Well, the 32 slot bag is nice, I guess many players got it already. As to Requiem Armor, you don't need to do this! "A Star to Guide Us" for example has 45 achievements. But you only need 38 to finish it. You can ignore 7 of them and still get your stuff done for Vision. I did "The Convergence of Sorrow I: Elegy" but not the second step. It works just like for Aurora in LW S3, you can choose a few achievements that yyou are not willing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crysis.1934 Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 > @"Cyninja.2954" said: > Let me guess, you had most of them done from completing them during the episode was live? > > Yeah, then it was way easier. Otherwise, no. Yes I had all the achievements and the crafting done but aurora felt a little bit harder to get and had all the achievements for that too. > @"Safandula.8723" said: > Which parts of skyscale were hard for u? Not skyscale, nor a vision achis were hard, but: > Skyscal needed reasonable collections to grow a dragon, which everyone had to start from beggining > Vision -here 95% of time needed for this collection, could be spent before release of the trinket. > So if u were grinding ls4 for this whole time, u received free trinket precursor I did not find any of it hard in fact I loved the skyscraper quest and wish there where more like it. And yes I had all the stuff for crafting vision but I would not call it grinding i just played the ls as they came out and got the home nodes when I had the gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Neither of them hard so that is a pointless comparison. Time consuming maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher.9370 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 > @"Etria.3642" said: > Don't forget the requiem armor. And the 32 slot can be frustrating if you don't get the diamond drop easily. Plus the other events required for this. > > Also don't forget requiem armor. I was only hopping to play the stories at the time and not bothering with anything else. came back a week before war eternal release, had started requiem armor, paused to get the stuff for skyscale and then continued farming it to finish the armor collection (took me about a week I think)... tedious yes but far from impossible to complete, althought i'm quite sick of jahai blufffs now, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra.6509 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 If you are like me with 99,9% LW4 achievements done, its easy. Only thing away are the astral weapons who was not tied with achievements back then, so now i have to farm them. I think Anet is telling us : we are working hard for LW episodes so you guys should complete the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Vision is not easy for me bcause i dont hv map currency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Oh please, skyscale is only "difficult" if you can't do JP but Anet give you an option to skip it. I find them both tedious than "more difficult than", skyscale has time-gate and currency farm, Vision is like that but even more farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Crysis.1934 Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 > @"Ultramex.1506" said: > Vision is like that but even more farming. Really? I had all the current o needed from doing the map meats when they came out and completing the achievements the first week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 > @"Last Crysis.1934" said: > > @"Ultramex.1506" said: > > Vision is like that but even more farming. > > Really? I had all the current o needed from doing the map meats when they came out and completing the achievements the first week or so. Then you're good to go,i guess. Biggest issues for this legendary trinket are the astral/dragonsblood weapons if you don't do them when it first came out and memory essence capsulator, also wiki said you need 100 currency each map to craft gift. That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 no, not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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