Mantrix.8329 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 People use different builds on some of the classes for **different game modes** and that number **often is more than 6 different builds people use.** Maximum 24 slots for Build storage and only 6 slots for Build and Equipment templates is not what most players expected to see. **Build storage is not essential for players to use because loading builds from Build storage when 6 Build templates aren't enough would be a chore.** Build system should empower players to use legendary equipment **on the same character without the need to transfer the gear between different characters of the same class**. Because it was stated that using legendary gear between different characters because they didn't want players to accidentally break equipment templates on one character by removing a piece of equipment on another. Also **it looks like that only Build storage is unlocked account-wide** while Build and Equipment templates we will have to buy on each character separately. If we will be able to have maximum only 6 Build and Equipment templates on release **Many players will be forced to play some classes on 2 different characters and will have paid for upgrading templates on both.** **And if in the nearby future** with a possible UI update **more will be added** **we will have to buy** Build and Equipment templates **on every main character of each class.** **Can we get definite and final answers to these questions on the final build system soon?** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylum.1806 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"Vavume.8065" said: > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherofMalakir.4067 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"Sylum.1806" said: > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? Yes. My chrono for raids right now uses 30+ gear templates. If I want to play the same I need to create 4 aditional mesmers, craft the same gear 4 more times, buy 20 gear templates (i would be ok with buying 20 on one character and not 4 on 5 diferent mesmers) and I still cannot swap as quickly since i need to swap between characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolzi.5928 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"Vavume.8065" said: > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... Ironically, this is a very alt-hostile system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > @"Sylum.1806" said: > > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > > > Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? > > Yes. My chrono for raids right now uses 30+ gear templates. If I want to play the same I need to create 4 aditional mesmers, craft the same gear 4 more times, buy 20 gear templates (i would be ok with buying 20 on one character and not 4 on 5 diferent mesmers) and I still cannot swap as quickly since i need to swap between characters. Under the new system, using Notepad you have this ability. I know the truth doesn't make a good argument for free stuff. But it is the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourpoundburrito.1698 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"mindcircus.1506" said: > > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > > @"Sylum.1806" said: > > > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > > > > > Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? > > > > Yes. My chrono for raids right now uses 30+ gear templates. If I want to play the same I need to create 4 aditional mesmers, craft the same gear 4 more times, buy 20 gear templates (i would be ok with buying 20 on one character and not 4 on 5 diferent mesmers) and I still cannot swap as quickly since i need to swap between characters. > > Under the new system, using Notepad you have this ability. > I know the truth doesn't make a good argument for free stuff. > But it is the truth. I believe what you are saying re: Notepad is true for traits/skills only. OP will still have to pay through the nose for gear template slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"Kolzi.5928" said: > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > Ironically, this is a very alt-hostile system. Not really. I have 16 characters that's gonna be up to 18 once I get enough tomes. No other game I've played has been that alt friendly to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherofMalakir.4067 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"mindcircus.1506" said: > > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > > @"Sylum.1806" said: > > > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > > > > > Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? > > > > Yes. My chrono for raids right now uses 30+ gear templates. If I want to play the same I need to create 4 aditional mesmers, craft the same gear 4 more times, buy 20 gear templates (i would be ok with buying 20 on one character and not 4 on 5 diferent mesmers) and I still cannot swap as quickly since i need to swap between characters. > > Under the new system, using Notepad you have this ability. > I know the truth doesn't make a good argument for free stuff. > But it is the truth. There are no chatcodes for gear, only traits and skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabenpriester.7129 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Thanks for telling us how we have to play the game <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > @"Sylum.1806" said: > > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > > > Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? > > Yes. My chrono for raids right now uses 30+ gear templates. If I want to play the same I need to create 4 aditional mesmers, craft the same gear 4 more times, buy 20 gear templates (i would be ok with buying 20 on one character and not 4 on 5 diferent mesmers) and I still cannot swap as quickly since i need to swap between characters. Unironically it's probably best to shrink that 30+ down to a smaller set of suboptimal builds that are good for all encounters In many scenarios you might be able to just load a close-enough template and then switch the one trait that needs fixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 > @"Cronos.6532" said: > > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > > @"Sylum.1806" said: > > > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > > > > > Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? > > > > Yes. My chrono for raids right now uses 30+ gear templates. If I want to play the same I need to create 4 aditional mesmers, craft the same gear 4 more times, buy 20 gear templates (i would be ok with buying 20 on one character and not 4 on 5 diferent mesmers) and I still cannot swap as quickly since i need to swap between characters. > > Unironically it's probably best to shrink that 30+ down to a smaller set of suboptimal builds that are good for all encounters > In many scenarios you might be able to just load a close-enough template and then switch the one trait that needs fixing Doesnt that defeat the purpose of build templates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherofMalakir.4067 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 > @"zealex.9410" said: > > @"Cronos.6532" said: > > > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > > > @"Sylum.1806" said: > > > > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > > > > This is AltWars 2, if you are playing on a single character you are doing it wrong... > > > > > > > > Maybe they meant not having to create more than 1 character per profession? > > > > > > Yes. My chrono for raids right now uses 30+ gear templates. If I want to play the same I need to create 4 aditional mesmers, craft the same gear 4 more times, buy 20 gear templates (i would be ok with buying 20 on one character and not 4 on 5 diferent mesmers) and I still cannot swap as quickly since i need to swap between characters. > > > > Unironically it's probably best to shrink that 30+ down to a smaller set of suboptimal builds that are good for all encounters > > In many scenarios you might be able to just load a close-enough template and then switch the one trait that needs fixing > > Doesnt that defeat the purpose of build templates? Exactly, why have templates when you need to switch by hand anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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