Majic.4801 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 This is actually a feature. In most games, fans have to write their own slash fics. GW2 writes it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlothArmada.6709 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Why does this matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgast.1469 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Seriously, though, I think we all need to take a step back and discuss what's truly important here. Why aren't there more interracial couples in GW2? You really think a Charr never looked at an Asura and thought, "I want to hit that"? Seriously GW2, where is the realism?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Fluffball.8307 said: > > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > > @Fluffball.8307 said: > > > > @"Chicken Fro.6953" said: > > > > I'd honestly prefer they just keep it all out of the *game.* :) Too many fires get started between people. Honestly, no offense to *anyone.* I would truly just rather leave this content in the real world. > > > > > > It's like saying "I'd prefer to not see black people in the game." > > > Arbitrarily removing a demographic and saying "no offense" is just nonsense. If someone gets upset by demographics, that's their own issue they need to work through. > > > > While I disagree with Chicken, he/she clearly does not mean it in that way. > > It doesn't matter how they meant it, it is still as nonsensical as removing all black people from the game. They don't want a demographic to be represented because some people find that demographic "offensive". That's just illogical and silly. No it is not. You're drawing parallels that aren't accurate in order to make his/her argument worse than it is. They clearly meant they'd rather not see sexual things whatsoever in games - that is not comparable to them saying they don't want to see black people. That is such a ridiclous strawman argument and you should kinda feel bad for trying to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirrion.8951 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @thrdeye.1028 said: > Nearly everyone is fine with gays simply existing. Sadly that is not even close to being true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einlanzer.1627 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @TheSlothArmada.6709 said: > Why does this matter? Because, as someone said above, people want to feel represented instead of marginalized. It isn't irrational, and in a world where you meet dozens and dozens of characters, you should expect some variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einlanzer.1627 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > @Fluffball.8307 said: > > > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > > > @Fluffball.8307 said: > > > > > @"Chicken Fro.6953" said: > > > > > I'd honestly prefer they just keep it all out of the *game.* :) Too many fires get started between people. Honestly, no offense to *anyone.* I would truly just rather leave this content in the real world. > > > > > > > > It's like saying "I'd prefer to not see black people in the game." > > > > Arbitrarily removing a demographic and saying "no offense" is just nonsense. If someone gets upset by demographics, that's their own issue they need to work through. > > > > > > While I disagree with Chicken, he/she clearly does not mean it in that way. > > > > It doesn't matter how they meant it, it is still as nonsensical as removing all black people from the game. They don't want a demographic to be represented because some people find that demographic "offensive". That's just illogical and silly. > > No it is not. You're drawing parallels that aren't accurate in order to make his/her argument worse than it is. They clearly meant they'd rather not see sexual things whatsoever in games - that is not comparable to them saying they don't want to see black people. That is such a ridiclous strawman argument and you should kinda feel bad for trying to get away with it. Then Anet would have to remove the romance between Logan and Jenna and about 10,000 other references, which would be silly and illogical and would hurt the game world for no material reason. Sorry, but it is a flawed argument. People who expect to not have to encounter benign LGBT characters in game need to adjust their expectations and stop being homophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notebene.3190 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 For some reason, I read the title, and thought of a 1950's old-timey husband complaining to his wife about dinner. Like George Parker in _Pleasantville_. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Einlanzer.1627 said: > > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > > @Fluffball.8307 said: > > > > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > > > > @Fluffball.8307 said: > > > > > > @"Chicken Fro.6953" said: > > > > > > I'd honestly prefer they just keep it all out of the *game.* :) Too many fires get started between people. Honestly, no offense to *anyone.* I would truly just rather leave this content in the real world. > > > > > > > > > > It's like saying "I'd prefer to not see black people in the game." > > > > > Arbitrarily removing a demographic and saying "no offense" is just nonsense. If someone gets upset by demographics, that's their own issue they need to work through. > > > > > > > > While I disagree with Chicken, he/she clearly does not mean it in that way. > > > > > > It doesn't matter how they meant it, it is still as nonsensical as removing all black people from the game. They don't want a demographic to be represented because some people find that demographic "offensive". That's just illogical and silly. > > > > No it is not. You're drawing parallels that aren't accurate in order to make his/her argument worse than it is. They clearly meant they'd rather not see sexual things whatsoever in games - that is not comparable to them saying they don't want to see black people. That is such a ridiclous strawman argument and you should kinda feel bad for trying to get away with it. > >Sorry, but it is a flawed argument. People who expect to not have to encounter benign LGBT characters in game need to adjust their expectations and stop being homophobic. Sigh. You too? Chicken was not targeting a specific demographic at all. Not black people, not LGBT people. As I said, I don't agree with Chicken. I feel that "vidja gayms" is a mature and legit enough artform to be allowed to feature sexual content. However, it irks me profoundly when someone strawmans another person like that, so eventhough I disagree with them I felt compelled to defend them. Counter their actual argument, not one that you make up for them to have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Since this thread is still going on I would like to comment, because why not. I think GW2 is very far away from shoving any agenda onto people. Sexuality, gender or orientation are never part of main story or side story of the game. Whenever these topics appear in game they are nothing more but background trivia for characters. For the main story, Jory and Kas being a couple is no different to Logan being in friendzone with Jennah. It can only be an issue for people who already have issues with such subjects outside of Tyria. That being said I'm not fan of Jory and Kasmeer. Not because of their relationship but because how uninteresting characters they are. Meanwhile I like Caithe X Faoline story as it's more of a tragic drama and different life goals that broke them apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Kheldorn.5123 said: > That being said I'm not fan of Jory and Kasmeer. Not because of their relationship but because how uninteresting characters they are. Meanwhile I like Caithe X Faoline story as it's more of a tragic drama and different life goals that broke them apart. Jory and Kasmeer are like 99% stock/generic lesbian couple, 1% interesting characters. Ugh. That is why they are far more better characters when apart from one another. Which is really just down to poor writing in the end, honestly. Nothing to do with their orientation - if a straight couple were likewise just definied solely by their shared romantic relationship, they'd be terrible characters as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenooble.5014 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Kheldorn.5123 said: > Since this thread is still going on I would like to comment, because why not. > > I think GW2 is very far away from shoving any agenda onto people. Sexuality, gender or orientation are never part of main story or side story of the game. Whenever these topics appear in game they are nothing more but background trivia for characters. For the main story, Jory and Kas being a couple is no different to Logan being in friendzone with Jennah. It can only be an issue for people who already have issues with such subjects outside of Tyria. > > That being said I'm not fan of Jory and Kasmeer. Not because of their relationship but because how uninteresting characters they are. Meanwhile I like Caithe X Faoline story as it's more of a tragic drama and different life goals that broke them apart. I'm still waiting for the Rytlock and Zoija arc. When the two of them return to Glint's lair to see Big Snaff, Rytlock professes his love for Zoija, and the two of them fall madly in love and make little kitty offspring to populate your home instance. MORE KITTENS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Chickenooble.5014 said: > > @Kheldorn.5123 said: > > Since this thread is still going on I would like to comment, because why not. > > > > I think GW2 is very far away from shoving any agenda onto people. Sexuality, gender or orientation are never part of main story or side story of the game. Whenever these topics appear in game they are nothing more but background trivia for characters. For the main story, Jory and Kas being a couple is no different to Logan being in friendzone with Jennah. It can only be an issue for people who already have issues with such subjects outside of Tyria. > > > > That being said I'm not fan of Jory and Kasmeer. Not because of their relationship but because how uninteresting characters they are. Meanwhile I like Caithe X Faoline story as it's more of a tragic drama and different life goals that broke them apart. > I'm still waiting for the Rytlock and Zoija arc. When the two of them return to Glint's lair to see Big Snaff, Rytlock professes his love for Zoija, and the two of them fall madly in love and make little kitty offspring to populate your home instance. MORE KITTENS! Then Rox goes yandere and murders everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda.1967 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Ashen.2907 said: > > @Panda.1967 said: > > They may have a history of putting lesbian couples more in the front line of things (Caithe & Faolin, Marjory & Kasmeer)... but there actually are quite a few gay couples throughout the game. As someone already mentioned, there is in fact a gay Sylvari couple in the Sylvari Personal Story, there are also a few gay Sylvari couples that can be located in The Grove by anyone. I don't remember which settlement it was in, but in one of the human towns you can overhear a conversation where a male proudly proclaims "I'm glad I married my husband". In fact, there are actually more gay couples located throughout the world in open areas of the map than there are lesbian couples, you just have to explore and find them. > > Interesting point. Thank you. I was not aware of the sylvari personal story (Ive not done it since shortly after launch). > > Still, among major recurring characters, lesbian relationships are the most common. Im not sure if there are any gay or straight couples among major characters in the game. For gay couples among major characters, there don't appear to be any at this time. However, that doesn't mean they don't exist or won't exist, it is quite possible that one or more of the major characters who have appeared in the story are gay though their orientation isn't made public, there is dialog and events that suggest that Trahearne may have been gay. As for straight couples, there are absolutely a few. Eir had husband Borje. Logan is romantically interested in Queen Jennah. Braham and Rox are heavily suggested to be more than just friends, Dialog between the two, and between your character and either of them about the other, heavily implies that the two of them are in fact a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard.4791 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Romance and love drives people. It creates stories. It's a huge part of the human condition. Deleting it from the game doesn't sound right. LGBT+ people exist, have romances too and the romances are not any more sexual than those of straight couples which of there is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintpixie.7398 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Kheldorn.5123 said: > Meanwhile I like Caithe X Faoline story as it's more of a tragic drama and different life goals that broke them apart. I really liked the Caithe/Faolain relationship too. Maybe it is because of it being tragic. I'm not sure. There was another story similar to it in one of the Sylvari storylines where a (straight) couple was divided because one of them joined the Nightmare Court. It was similar, and it also pulled my heart strings, but not as much. I love both Caithe and Faolain. The Logan/Queen Jennah one is annoying. I like the jabs Anise takes at him now and then, though. (But I really hate Logan. There is nothing he could do to redeem himself in my eyes.) I like to think Rytlock left him for Canach and Jennah will end up with Anise. The Kasmeer/Marjory relationship seemed a bit forced and shallow. They have some interesting elements to their characters. I kinda wish they would play around with the characters more than just "they're lesbians". It does seem forced because of the shallowness of it. I think a lot of media is afraid to dare to make "LGBT" characters with any real flaws. I think that may be one of the reason some of those characters tend to be written with less depth. It's a shame, though, since we're all people and we all have flaws, some of them major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThenCameThree.4163 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just question, but isnt this just a protest about what you do in the sheets? So, by that standards i want more waifu romance story in the game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenooble.5014 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Shard.4791 said: > LGBT+ people exist, have romances too and the romances are not any more sexual than those of straight couples which of there is plenty. I think only Lesibans exist in Tyria. No Gay or Bisexuals exist as far as I know -- the guys in King Joko's harem are just there for board games... Sylvari as Asexual. And anyone can be Transexual/Transracial for 1000 gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronatras.3280 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I do wonder one thing. How many of you shouting **MUHH DIVERSITY** were the ones who were complaining on different sets of armour on Asuras and Charrs. Just wondering ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @paintpixie.7398 said: > The Logan/Queen Jennah one is annoying. Really, they should just bump uglies at this point. What's the worst that could happen? The majority of Tyria seem to already know how they feel about one another anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThenCameThree.4163 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 but no seriously wheres the waifu lovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 For lack of manXman couples, I am pretty sure we can assume that Trahearne was into The Commander a little more than just for our combat field proficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenooble.5014 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @ThenCameThree.4163 said: > but no seriously wheres the waifu lovers Ever since we killed the tentacle dragon of the jungle left with all his viney goodness, all the anime-bros quit the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmirkDog.3160 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Bad thread please close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 > @Chickenooble.5014 said: > I think only Lesibans exist in Tyria. No Gay or Bisexuals exist as far as I know You've never been to a mesmer sex party then. Bisexual, trisexual, quadsexual... not pentasexual though. Dont try that. Premature shatters hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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