Hogwarts Zebra.8597

> @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"Hogwarts Zebra.8597" said: > > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > > @"Hogwarts Zebra.8597" said: > > > > I've said this before and i'll say it again: > > > > SoJ has a stupidly long animation of a **massive, stationary spinning sword.** If you're getting hit by **all 4 strikes** **AND failing to cleanse afterwards**, that is a l2p issue. You would've died to literally any other class/build > > > > > > educate me, traited, how many casts does it have? > > > > educate me, how is number of casts casts relevant if you never get hit by any of them? > > Yeah, cause we have infinite dodges and the goal of conquest isn't to capture points. sword radius is smaller than the node. simply walk out of its AOE

> @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"Hogwarts Zebra.8597" said: > > I've said this before and i'll say it again: > > SoJ has a stupidly long animation of a **massive, stationary spinning sword.** If you're getting hit by **all 4 strikes** **AND failing to cleanse afterwards**, that is a l2p issue. You would've died to literally any other class/build > > educate me, traited, how many casts does it have? educate me, how is number of casts casts relevant if you never get hit by any of them?

I've said this before and i'll say it again: SoJ has a stupidly long animation of a **massive, stationary spinning sword.** If you're getting hit by **all 4 strikes** **AND failing to cleanse afterwards**, that is a l2p issue. You would've died to literally any other class/build

> @"felix.2386" said: > > @"Brimstone Jack.3462" said: > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > remove 25% speed runes, so people actually need to build for mobility > > > and decrease aoe damage, so melee actually matter > > > > Or you could spec for mobility so you don't have to rely on nerfs and removing items to kneecap already crippled, low-mobility builds like necros. Or stop chasing down targets you can see move faster than you. Or stop thinking melee means you're supposed to be able to just stand and bang with every other class and win. Or use a speed rune yourself. > > Yea, that's exactly what meta builds are doing right now and literally killing everything that's not speed based and melee based. > not good. rune that gives speed is too good as mobility is king now > and you have to spec for it, having rune giving mobility is just bad > > i don't see how you enjoy the meta that necro is already dead for people specing speed on top of running mobility runes, 2 of 4 meta builds have mobility runes > and shoutwar/scrapper also specced heavily in mobility. > > bring down general mobility and have to spec for, actually amplify necro skills effectiveness Some classes HAVE to take mobility runes. If ur talking about trapper/speed runes that's for another discussion. Removing lynx and traveler runes is just stupid--you are arguing that we should just remove necro and guard (and possibly mesmer) from pvp.

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> @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said: > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > > > @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said: > > > > > Guards spinny sword of fire is better at cleaving than a zerker ele's fgs. > > > > > > > > This is straight up a lie. > > > > > > I have videos to show otherwise...do you want force me to upload videos on youtubes after processing them and prove you wrong? > > > - a single sword of justice summon can down a light/medium golem on its own > > > - You need a full FGS rotation to down a medium golem...and we're talking about an elite > > > > He said, the sword alone is better damage than zerk fgs. I can guarantee you I'll get more dmg out of fgs in a 16s duration (time to cast all 4 swords) than the burning from sword. > > I said better at cleaving. In a practical situation guards can use other skills while soj is down, or they can put it on a downstate and focus another target. fgs on downed targets can barely out-dps 1 person rezzing, and the ele has to be zerker and stay alive somehow. Soj forces cleanses to keep downstates alive, and most builds dont have enough group cleanses, if any, to get them up. no group cleanses needed. unless they are pouring their entire burst into the cleave (sword+symbol+sword again+other symbol), all u need is personal cleanse. downstates have massive health so as long as u yourself don't go down, u can outrez their cleave

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Hogwarts Zebra.8597" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"Hogwarts Zebra.8597" said: > > > > > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > > > > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said: > > > > > > > Guards spinny sword of fire is better at cleaving than a zerker ele's fgs. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is straight up a lie. > > > > > > > > > > I have videos to show otherwise...do you want force me to upload videos on youtubes after processing them and prove you wrong? > > > > > - a single sword of justice summon can down a light/medium golem on its own > > > > > - You need a full FGS rotation to down a medium golem...and we're talking about an elite > > > > > > > > > > > > a single cast of SoJ bring a heavy golem down to half health > > > > > > Lmao yet a squishy bursty rogue class sets up a fully booned back stab on a heavy golem and wastes half his resources for stealth and has to hit from behind and knocks of like 12% of the heavy golems hp in one back stab. Gj anet gj. > > > > a backstab crit does way more than 12% > > also, read the 2nd half of my statement > > Crit yeah lol, go in the mist with a cs/trick/dd zerk/divinity rune and steal backstab the heavy golem 6 times and I'll bet 4 out of 6 land 3k on it, what percentage is 3.4k? backstab is not 3k -- most players will not have 22k health, nor 2600 armor in actual games backstab consistently lands 4-5k and ur missing the point. skills like backstab do massive burst INSTANTLY, with minimal counterplay (u cannot see someone backstabbing u) sword of justice has a MASSIVE SPINNING SWORD animation. if ur consistently taking all 4 hits of SoJ AND failing to manage your cleanse, that is a l2p issue--u would've died to any other class/build

> @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > @"Megametzler.5729" said: > > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > > > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said: > > > > > > Guards spinny sword of fire is better at cleaving than a zerker ele's fgs. > > > > > > > > > > This is straight up a lie. > > > > > > > > I have videos to show otherwise...do you want force me to upload videos on youtubes after processing them and prove you wrong? > > > > - a single sword of justice summon can down a light/medium golem on its own > > > > - You need a full FGS rotation to down a medium golem...and we're talking about an elite > > > > > > He said, the sword alone is better damage than zerk fgs. I can guarantee you I'll get more dmg out of fgs in a 16s duration (time to cast all 4 swords) than the burning from sword. > > > > I want to see numbers now. :tongue: > > > > @"Math.5123", you provide maximum damage for FGS, screenshot is just fine. > > @"Arheundel.6451", you do the same for SoJ. > > > > Not that it really mattered, but I am still curious. > > As I have stated : a single sword of justice can down a light/medium golem on its own.... > > > Same cannot be said for the dps of FGS, dunno what even is the point , people trying to justify the dmg of an elite to an utility, the dmg coming from a conjure elite should be at least 3x of what is now. If people want to compare then sword of justice with **arcane blast** as dmg utility comparison well....lol the difference would be even more hilarious. > > I have no reason to ask for nerfs on anything these days...as people can see...I play almost everything. what is this? radiance+zeal+virtues? nobody will run this build in real games run the same test with zeal+virtues+DH, let's see if u can still down any golem with 1 sword edit: and make sure to unequip balthazar runes and use trapper instead. ur testing a full glass, essentially pve dps build, against a standard pvp duelist build

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Hogwarts Zebra.8597" said: > > > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > > > @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said: > > > > > Guards spinny sword of fire is better at cleaving than a zerker ele's fgs. > > > > > > > > This is straight up a lie. > > > > > > I have videos to show otherwise...do you want force me to upload videos on youtubes after processing them and prove you wrong? > > > - a single sword of justice summon can down a light/medium golem on its own > > > - You need a full FGS rotation to down a medium golem...and we're talking about an elite > > > > > > a single cast of SoJ bring a heavy golem down to half health > > Lmao yet a squishy bursty rogue class sets up a fully booned back stab on a heavy golem and wastes half his resources for stealth and has to hit from behind and knocks of like 12% of the heavy golems hp in one back stab. Gj anet gj. a backstab crit does way more than 12% also, read the 2nd half of my statement

> @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said: > > > Guards spinny sword of fire is better at cleaving than a zerker ele's fgs. > > > > This is straight up a lie. > > I have videos to show otherwise...do you want force me to upload videos on youtubes after processing them and prove you wrong? > - a single sword of justice summon can down a light/medium golem on its own > - You need a full FGS rotation to down a medium golem...and we're talking about an elite a single cast of SoJ bring a heavy golem down to half health and ur forgetting that a single cleanse negates 80% of SoJ dmg, while the same cannot be said of FGS