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  1. > @"Linken.6345" said:

    > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > > @"voltaicbore.8012" said:

    > > > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > >

    > > > > As example, i do my dailies mostly in ranked PvP because of the skill level. The best way to do that is to stay at the home base.

    > > > > The assumption is that the game is done faster when i don participate. As faster the game is over as faster i have my daily.

    > > > > My character is constantly called Bot and i am reported. Not that i ever got a notice from ANet because they know.

    > > > > So, in reality people accuse someone of being a bot without evidence because the just assume.

    > > > > ANet is fully aware of that and leave players alone. Like you said, bad behavior ingame doesn't mean botting

    > > >

    > > > I guess they should be reporting you for match manipulation instead.

    > > >

    > > > I never mind if everyone is at least trying but my team just gets outplayed. But specifically choosing to interact with the match as little as possible so as to lose faster crosses the line for me. I guess I'd make an exception for someone staying in spawn because the team is getting camped, but it sounds to me like you're just staying at home node from the very beginning for this exact purpose.

    > > >

    > >

    > > This is not completely correct. I don't stay at home from the beginning. Usual the daily is capping a flag or kill someone.

    > > All this is easily done with a stealthy Thief. After i have done that, i want the game over as fast as possible.

    > >

    > > I would absolutely not call that match manipulation.

    > > I don't gain anything or favor a certain team, if my team wins, i am already good with that.

    > > It's just more efficient to aim for a loss than for a victory. By going for a victory i just extend the game by lots of minutes.

    > > I play the game different than you do. Nothing in the rules makes your or my way to play illegal.

    > >

    > > The actual problem i call out since a while is that the most easy Dailies are in PvP and not PVE.

    > > As long as this is the case, people are forced to play PvP. You can call them Bot's if it pleases you but ANet won't do anything since they are no bots

    > > doesn't matter how often you report them

    > >

    >

    > Then join the custom farm spvp maps and dont disrupt ranked/unranked

    >

     

    I already explained why i chose ranked.

    The skill level in ranked is way higher than anywhere else.

    There are no real exhausting matches. As soon as one team has the edge, they finish off fast

  2. > @"voltaicbore.8012" said:

    > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > I don't gain anything or favor a certain team, if my team wins, i am already good with that.

    >

    > Merely "favoring" one side cannot possibly be the standard for match manipulation. If you fight hard to win, you are obviously favoring your own team, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Equally obviously, "match manipulation" must then refer to something other than "playing hard within the rules so your team can win." I would argue that "match manipulation" as a concept _precisely_ applies to the kind of thing you say next:

    >

    > > **It's just more efficient to aim for a loss than for a victory.** By going for a victory i just extend the game by lots of minutes.

    >

    > You are _intentionally_ seeking to make your team lose. And for some bizarre reason you still go on to say

    >

    > >I play the game different than you do. Nothing in the rules makes your or my way to play illegal.

    >

    > Check [#22 of the GW2 Rules of Conduct](https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/), which specifically states: "This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching."

    >

    > My way is fine, yours is not.

    >

    > The real problem is that ANet probably has issues taking action against someone who is merely performing the behaviors you are doing in-game. I mean, it's entirely reasonable for a new an very conservative-minded player to think that they're actively helping the team win by protecting the home node, especially when the team seems to be strugging all over the map - makes sense to at least hang onto what you have, right?

    >

    > But hilariously, you basically said out here in the open "nah, I'm not just new or misguided, but I intentionally do this to make my own team lose faster." Sure, play however you want, but your conduct is not defensible.

    >

    >

    >

     

    **I am sure you just forgot the 1st paragraph by accident**

     

    1. While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated.

     

    **I also do not see where i violate the 22nd rule, you actually do**

    22. While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.

     

    Since i follow my dailies, i participate in good faith in PvP and am not leeching. The legal definition for "Good Faith" is, that i do not wish to defraud other.

    Further, the rule says "any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome". Since i clearly DO NOT take any action i am not the one manipulating.

    If any, i would accuse you of manipulating, since you openly admitted that you purposely take actions to have a win as the outcome of the match.

    The rule clearly states that people violate rule 22, who actively manipulate **_any outcome_** of a match.

     

    So before accusing people of misconduct, try to better yourself please. Especially when the other person is doing absolutely nothing wrong.

     

     

  3. > @"voltaicbore.8012" said:

    > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    >

    > > As example, i do my dailies mostly in ranked PvP because of the skill level. The best way to do that is to stay at the home base.

    > > The assumption is that the game is done faster when i don participate. As faster the game is over as faster i have my daily.

    > > My character is constantly called Bot and i am reported. Not that i ever got a notice from ANet because they know.

    > > So, in reality people accuse someone of being a bot without evidence because the just assume.

    > > ANet is fully aware of that and leave players alone. Like you said, bad behavior ingame doesn't mean botting

    >

    > I guess they should be reporting you for match manipulation instead.

    >

    > I never mind if everyone is at least trying but my team just gets outplayed. But specifically choosing to interact with the match as little as possible so as to lose faster crosses the line for me. I guess I'd make an exception for someone staying in spawn because the team is getting camped, but it sounds to me like you're just staying at home node from the very beginning for this exact purpose.

    >

     

    This is not completely correct. I don't stay at home from the beginning. Usual the daily is capping a flag or kill someone.

    All this is easily done with a stealthy Thief. After i have done that, i want the game over as fast as possible.

     

    I would absolutely not call that match manipulation.

    I don't gain anything or favor a certain team, if my team wins, i am already good with that.

    It's just more efficient to aim for a loss than for a victory. By going for a victory i just extend the game by lots of minutes.

    I play the game different than you do. Nothing in the rules makes your or my way to play illegal.

     

    The actual problem i call out since a while is that the most easy Dailies are in PvP and not PVE.

    As long as this is the case, people are forced to play PvP. You can call them Bot's if it pleases you but ANet won't do anything since they are no bots

    doesn't matter how often you report them

     

  4. > @"Firebeard.1746" said:

    > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > Even if ANet would announce numbers or statistics you guys would never be satisfied.

    > > Everyone that doesn't play the game how you guys dictate, is labeled a bot anyways.

    > > Standing Farmers are the best example. Thousand of players getting called names and are labeled bots for no reason at all.

    >

    > Well when someone keeps suiciding mid and won't respond to the question "who here is not a bot" it makes one wonder. This does happen, but really it happens because there's a lot of obvious bad behavior in PVP anyway. It's the community's reality vs. what anet says. I think if the quality of matches improved and it became obvious there were fewer bots, people would be satisfied. But we mostly get static from our own observation against anet's "We're dealing with it, but we won't tell you anything about anything we've done". Which doesn't say much.

     

    I understand what you are saying but "It makes someone wonder" is no evidence at all.

    As example, i do my dailies mostly in ranked PvP because of the skill level. The best way to do that is to stay at the home base.

    The assumption is that the game is done faster when i don participate. As faster the game is over as faster i have my daily.

    My character is constantly called Bot and i am reported. Not that i ever got a notice from ANet because they know.

    So, in reality people accuse someone of being a bot without evidence because the just assume.

    ANet is fully aware of that and leave players alone. Like you said, bad behavior ingame doesn't mean botting

     

  5. Have you guys ever thought about just playing a game?

    We can only assume someone is a bot and this is exactly what A-Net does. If there is no bullet proof evidence,

    they leave people alone. Rightfully so

     

    Just play the game. How others play and how they handle their characters is not of our business. Problem solved

    Same with standing farmers. It's not illegal so leave people alone

  6. I somehow have a hard time to even call the last episode an episode.

    It was exactly like the one before without any story. Just portal to 3 locations and hold the town.

     

    Thank goodness it doesn't matter you archive something or not. At the end of the timer you get the mission complete.

    I just went down the kitchen and let the other players deal with that stuff.

     

    Why is this garbage even produced????

     

    Just take the resources and put it into the new expansion

  7. > @"Obfuscate.6430" said:

    > I kind of liked it. I liked that it drew people back to older content.

     

    Same here.

    The way how they butcher new maps made me appreciate the old maps. Not every place needs a meta or a warzone.

    I also got a nice GW1 feeling with the destroyers rising up.

    Only thing i would change is more story and the way how the story is presented.

    Having those conversation in the background while being busy fighting makes me lose the story feeling

  8. > @"mercury ranique.2170" said:

    > > @"zealex.9410" said:

    > > The scope has been a mess and thats because you havent set a clear plan for how Gw2 is going to stay relevant and evolve and grow for years to come.

    > >

    >

    > Arenanet isn't a company that does it like it is supposed to be done. They have never been that way. If you've been with us for longer you should have known that. It started a long time ago with the gw1 campaigns that went to an expansion and gw2 and the ongoing changes to the living world.

    > Arenanet isn't using proofed business models like other bigger companies. They do it their own way. The result is a game that has been refreshing and renewing the genre. It was Arenanet that started the titles and achievement system. The first without monthly fees and still presented a big game where you can spent a lifetime online. The first to say goodbye to the trinity. Etc.

    > To be innovative you need trial and error. It means they constantly try to improve the release schedule.

    >

     

    All this would be true if A-Net would ba a charity or something.

    In reality they are a very professional entertainment corporation and people who spend money on them have a right to expect that.

     

    If we apply word by word what you wrote to a dentist or car mechanic, people would laugh at us.

  9. The most appealing maps to me are those who serves a purpose.

    Like a reason to be there, not just to place a warzone in there like A-Net is used to do.

    Think of Queensdale. There are villages where people live, they have a lake for fishing and a mension for a leader.

    And there is so much happening that makes the map so likeable. People water the fields and they lumber wood for building.

    You can just walk around and look at things, there is no constant combat going on.

     

    And this brings me to the example of a bad map.

    A bad map only exists for the purpose of warfare or fighting.

    The Path of fire maps would be a perfect example. There is absolutely nothing to see but you are constantly attacked.

    Nobody likes being there.

    Gw1 did a better job with the desert maps. There were several different deserts, from pure sand dunes to prairies with groups of different animals wandering around.

    But wherever you went you were in awe with the environment and ambience. They also had better music customized for each map, not the mix and mash we have in Gw2

     

     

  10. > @"Fuchslein.8639" said:

    > > @"Mortifera.6138" said:

    > > > @"Scoobaniec.9561" said:

    > > > Silverwastes is the best map ingame. Nothing comes close

    > >

    > > Not aesthetically. It's a bunch of dirt that you do the same things over and over on.

    >

    > It is a desert, a desert consists of 90% sand. This is what makes a desert ^^''.

    >

    >

    >

    > For me Dragonstand is the perfect map. I love the meta-event, the map and the weapons collection.

    > The meta has just the right length and relaxedness for me. And I have nothing against zerg events, quite the contrary. If you just want to relax in the evening 1 1 1 events within a mass-zerg are very pleasant for me.

     

    Sand doesn't make a desert a desert. Yes, there are sand deserts but the main description of a desert is "landscape where little precipitation occurs"

     

    I have an example for a Cold Desert at Dome C

    ![](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert#/media/File:AntarcticaDomeCSnow.jpg "")

     

    Baja Desert in California

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert#/media/File:Baja_California_Desert.jpg

     

    Rock Desert

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert#/media/File:AtacamaDesertByFrode.jpg

     

  11. > @"mercury ranique.2170" said:

    > > It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentence, to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words: "And this, too, shall pass away." How much it expresses! How chastening in the hour of pride! How consoling in the depths of affliction!

    >

    > GW2 doesnt have the eternal life, but it is far from death. People always have had concerns and it is primarly cause the current course isn't yours. I do think it is why Arenanet is doing a good job here.

     

    The main problem i see with your point is, that there isn't a single person saying "yes, it's my course"

    Look at what happened to Star Wars, when they tried to fix the problems with the different fan groups by pleasing none of them.

     

    In general people play a game because they enjoy it. The groups of people who are not entertained are growing too big.

    This is why the weekly doom and gloom thread pops up.

    I came to term, with me not being the chosen target group and i am fine with that. But i also don't know anyone who is.

    I wish there would be a more obvious path they go so people can make up their mind. Yes, they would lose the one or other group

    but strengthen the main target group. Until then everyone turns their back on GW2 instead just a couple of people

  12. > @"Jilora.9524" said:

    > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > > @"Jilora.9524" said:

    > > > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > > > > @"knite.1542" said:

    > > > > > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > > > > > > @"Hashberry.4510" said:

    > > > > > > > Yes it is offensive.

    > > > > > >

    > > > > > > No it is not.

    > > > > > > The question was for minion camping and not unprovable AFK.

    > > > > > > According to A-Net's rule, Minion Camping is not offensive

    > > > > >

    > > > > > Definitely is. The policy says:

    > > > > >

    > > > > > "Idling in a city or even in the open world is not prohibited, though your character should not perform actions, participate in content, or otherwise engage with the world while you are away from your computer."

    > > > > >

    > > > > > And the OP definitely stated while AFK

    > > > >

    > > > > Yeah right............ except you conveniently forgot to post the complete sentence of that paragraph.

    > > > > "Note that this **does not** mean that you cannot be away from your computer (AFK) while you are online"

    > > > >

    > > > > So reading a book or doing homework while standing farming using my toe to click the spacebar is allowed.

    > > > > Also having a mouse with me i click from time to time while i have my laptop in my pocket is legal.

    > > > > The only thing not legal is to use 3rd party software and this would require proof.

    > > > >

    > > > > So if we are looking for people that violate the game rules, it's the people using DPS meters and terrorize the rest of the player base with their nonsense.

    > > > >

    > > > Then you conveniently forgot the rest

    > > > Note that this does not mean that you cannot be away from your computer (AFK) while you are online. Idling in a city or even in the open world is not prohibited, though your character should not perform actions, participate in content, or otherwise engage with the world while you are away from your computer.

    > > > Which means you can't be afk and leaving you character there killing mobs or getting credit for an event.

    > > > Your scenarios hitting space and reading a book are not away from the computer so as long as you don't miss that whisper from a GM you good.

    > >

    > > I don't need to answer anything.

    > > As long as i have my conversation logs they can't do anything.

    > > Basically everyone who has their chat turned off, like me, would be guilty if this would be true

    >

    > You would or they kick you offline and potentially suspend you. That's the process it seems if they act on afk farming mobs. The whisper you. If you reply you fine. If not they could kick you offline or move you to see if say you automatically re place your turrets or something then they would know you are botting etc. Do you minion farm while reading a book? Cause if you aren't doing something like that then you wouldn't get reported for them to whisper you anyway

     

    Not a single of their rules states that i have to answer any chat requests.

    If they would pull that crap on me, i would sue instantly. And i have enough time and money to finish that.

    And so far i haven't encountered any behaviour like that from A-Net

    I assume that the Staff is well aware of what is written their own rules.

     

    So i encourage everyone to Standing Farm as much as we can within the rules.

    This is the only way to keep the stock market player in check

  13. > @"Jilora.9524" said:

    > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > > @"knite.1542" said:

    > > > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > > > > @"Hashberry.4510" said:

    > > > > > Yes it is offensive.

    > > > >

    > > > > No it is not.

    > > > > The question was for minion camping and not unprovable AFK.

    > > > > According to A-Net's rule, Minion Camping is not offensive

    > > >

    > > > Definitely is. The policy says:

    > > >

    > > > "Idling in a city or even in the open world is not prohibited, though your character should not perform actions, participate in content, or otherwise engage with the world while you are away from your computer."

    > > >

    > > > And the OP definitely stated while AFK

    > >

    > > Yeah right............ except you conveniently forgot to post the complete sentence of that paragraph.

    > > "Note that this **does not** mean that you cannot be away from your computer (AFK) while you are online"

    > >

    > > So reading a book or doing homework while standing farming using my toe to click the spacebar is allowed.

    > > Also having a mouse with me i click from time to time while i have my laptop in my pocket is legal.

    > > The only thing not legal is to use 3rd party software and this would require proof.

    > >

    > > So if we are looking for people that violate the game rules, it's the people using DPS meters and terrorize the rest of the player base with their nonsense.

    > >

    > Then you conveniently forgot the rest

    > Note that this does not mean that you cannot be away from your computer (AFK) while you are online. Idling in a city or even in the open world is not prohibited, though your character should not perform actions, participate in content, or otherwise engage with the world while you are away from your computer.

    > Which means you can't be afk and leaving you character there killing mobs or getting credit for an event.

    > Your scenarios hitting space and reading a book are not away from the computer so as long as you don't miss that whisper from a GM you good.

     

    I don't need to answer anything.

    As long as i have my conversation logs they can't do anything.

    Basically everyone who has their chat turned off, like me, would be guilty if this would be true.

     

    Basically you have to fulfill 1 of 2 conditions to play legally.

    "The use of auto-casting abilities to farm while not at your computer or not actively playing the game"

     

    So as long as i am at my computer, minions can do whatever you want.

    Let's say i am on a "Teams Call". That means i am at my computer. Irrelevant if i am answering a whisper or not.

     

  14. > @"knite.1542" said:

    > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said:

    > > > @"Hashberry.4510" said:

    > > > Yes it is offensive.

    > >

    > > No it is not.

    > > The question was for minion camping and not unprovable AFK.

    > > According to A-Net's rule, Minion Camping is not offensive

    >

    > Definitely is. The policy says:

    >

    > "Idling in a city or even in the open world is not prohibited, though your character should not perform actions, participate in content, or otherwise engage with the world while you are away from your computer."

    >

    > And the OP definitely stated while AFK

     

    Yeah right............ except you conveniently forgot to post the complete sentence of that paragraph.

    "Note that this **does not** mean that you cannot be away from your computer (AFK) while you are online"

     

    So reading a book or doing homework while standing farming using my toe to click the spacebar is allowed.

    Also having a mouse with me i click from time to time while i have my laptop in my pocket is legal.

    The only thing not legal is to use 3rd party software and this would require proof.

     

    So if we are looking for people that violate the game rules, it's the people using DPS meters and terrorize the rest of the player base with their nonsense.

     

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