Virdo.1540

Power renegade.

it provides high reward with an incredibly low skill ceiling ,but can still be mastered for even more reward

> @"Sobx.1758" said:

> > @"Virdo.1540" said:

> > > @"Oxstar.7643" said:

> > > > @"Virdo.1540" said:

> > > > > @"Oxstar.7643" said:

> > > > > Uh. Rev is one of my fav classes to play. I have specced my renegade rev to be a survivable and it still hits pretty decently for being nowhere close to optimized for damage. It's... really not in any way a weak class. Your self heal is absurdly good with battle scars, you can do amazing aoe and control with Kalla's warband and your shortbow, and you can do great support both from renegade and herald with buffs to fury and might. Being able to give a whole group in meta on demand 15 might stacks and an aoe field that both amps their damage and allows them insane self heal is no joke either. There are also times when it helps a lot to have an anti ranged shield. Revs dominate the field of saying no to projectiles, outdoing even guardians. While this is limited application in groups, it can sometimes be a downright blessing solo, and also if you use planar protection from the heal with protective solace and your hammer shield then you can stay protected from missile basically forever while still dishing out damage.

> > > >

> > > > Renegade is not Revenant in whole.

> > > >

> > > > Revenant as core if pretty much bottom of everything, while herald can be a bit better, but still nowhere near "being not a joke".

> > > >

> > > > Renegade is extremely overtuned. 10man alac, 5man 25might, extreme group lifesiphone, extreme usage of battlescars, epic burst damage etc.

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> > > being bad without elite speccs is nothing new. And many revs I see use herald because of the facets.

> >

> > if im lucky i see one other herald per day, while most play renegade. Most heralds chose herald simply because of the "perma swiftness".

> >

> > Because Rapid flow is kinda annoying & shiro is simply to loud

>

> Maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe if you're talking about pve only. Which this thread doesn't. And I'm sure you play herald because it's bad :D

>

> Not only that, but OP takes his stats for the initial statement from some publicly accessible site, so when he says "revenant is the least played profession", he means "revenant and its especs".

I play herald because i have fun with it, which doesnt mean its good or bad. If people kick other people right out of groups or insult them right off the bat, only for being core rev or herald, then theres clearly something wrong.

And i assumed this thread is about PvE only, because Revenants are often found in wvw zergs and even in pvp.

Renegade alone is way more often found than Engineers ,thiefs, elementalists and mesmers (in PvE&pvp at least)

> @"Oxstar.7643" said:

> > @"Virdo.1540" said:

> > > @"Oxstar.7643" said:

> > > Uh. Rev is one of my fav classes to play. I have specced my renegade rev to be a survivable and it still hits pretty decently for being nowhere close to optimized for damage. It's... really not in any way a weak class. Your self heal is absurdly good with battle scars, you can do amazing aoe and control with Kalla's warband and your shortbow, and you can do great support both from renegade and herald with buffs to fury and might. Being able to give a whole group in meta on demand 15 might stacks and an aoe field that both amps their damage and allows them insane self heal is no joke either. There are also times when it helps a lot to have an anti ranged shield. Revs dominate the field of saying no to projectiles, outdoing even guardians. While this is limited application in groups, it can sometimes be a downright blessing solo, and also if you use planar protection from the heal with protective solace and your hammer shield then you can stay protected from missile basically forever while still dishing out damage.

> >

> > Renegade is not Revenant in whole.

> >

> > Revenant as core if pretty much bottom of everything, while herald can be a bit better, but still nowhere near "being not a joke".

> >

> > Renegade is extremely overtuned. 10man alac, 5man 25might, extreme group lifesiphone, extreme usage of battlescars, epic burst damage etc.

>

> being bad without elite speccs is nothing new. And many revs I see use herald because of the facets.

if im lucky i see one other herald per day, while most play renegade. Most heralds chose herald simply because of the "perma swiftness".

Because Rapid flow is kinda annoying & shiro is simply to loud

> @"Oxstar.7643" said:

> Uh. Rev is one of my fav classes to play. I have specced my renegade rev to be a survivable and it still hits pretty decently for being nowhere close to optimized for damage. It's... really not in any way a weak class. Your self heal is absurdly good with battle scars, you can do amazing aoe and control with Kalla's warband and your shortbow, and you can do great support both from renegade and herald with buffs to fury and might. Being able to give a whole group in meta on demand 15 might stacks and an aoe field that both amps their damage and allows them insane self heal is no joke either. There are also times when it helps a lot to have an anti ranged shield. Revs dominate the field of saying no to projectiles, outdoing even guardians. While this is limited application in groups, it can sometimes be a downright blessing solo, and also if you use planar protection from the heal with protective solace and your hammer shield then you can stay protected from missile basically forever while still dishing out damage.

Renegade is not Revenant in whole.

Revenant as core if pretty much bottom of everything, while herald can be a bit better, but still nowhere near "being not a joke".

Renegade is extremely overtuned. 10man alac, 5man 25might, extreme group lifesiphone, extreme usage of battlescars, epic burst damage etc.

Hey does anyone know about how the Infusions choose their order to load in?

I mean for example, the "Abyssal Infusion" always get loaded after the "[Polysaturating Reverberating Infusion](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Polysaturating_Reverberating_Infusion_(Red))" ,thus removing the effect of the pre-loaded Poly-Infusion.

If the Poly-Infusion is in a weapon, the Abyssal is in an Trinket, then the Poly-Infu loads later and overwrites some effects of the Pre-loaded Abyssal Infusion.

Are there any other ways to manipulate the Infusion Load order? Or any tips?

> @"mzmz.6289" said:

> everytime the fights end in less than 1min, doesnt matter how many ppl you have. imagine you r in the ts with crowded ppl, and you just get run over and die in a sec.

What? Never heard such crap.

> for healers can only heal for their team, imagine you have to look where your teammate r in the huge squad.

No. Its not only "their team". Maybe google a bit around about "Heal prioritization" and "Target Cap".

> @"Megametzler.5729"

> @"Sobx.1758"

they linger if you have drac. echo chosen. And still, my point was just how annoying the 5pip elite facet has become.

And "low energy costs" doesnt mean you play with glint only. There you dont really have much options to make use of ur energy.

> @"Sobx.1758" said:

> > @"Virdo.1540" said:

> > Renegade would play with swords then. Also theres no need to nerf shiro anymore. Simply reduce the might of renegade

> > And herald isnt in a good state atm to call for nerfs.

>

> ...how is herald not good atm? :D

Energy costs too high, might too low, needs to use dmg traitlines for that ,which already got nerfed extremely, extremely easy to counter etc

btw have you every placed ur herald into the pvp lobby and just activated the protection facet?

Renegade would play with swords then. Also theres no need to nerf shiro anymore. Simply reduce the might of renegade

And herald isnt in a good state atm to call for nerfs.

im up for the idea of locking players into the classes that were chosen before "Looking for Match"

feeling scammed? For free to play content?

its like that in all tiers

yea, lets all play heal spellbreaker

i like it. The only part where it doesnt really shine are the long dialogues on normal mode.

Can we please increase the size of the Achievement-Watchlist? It sucks to put some specific achievements in there only to see that the older ones get kicked out of the list.

not only the wvw servers crashed

> @"kharmin.7683" said:

> Build: 110777

> Error Code: 58:11:5:535

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> Same issue

same here. they probably hit the wrong button.

a good balancing.

Dont facetank it like a bot. If u dont do that, u will see that condi revenant is in a terrible state right now. or just try it out yourself.

they just need to rework the whole stealth &Reveal system.

> @"Nephalem.8921" said:

> > @"Virdo.1540" said:

> > condi scourge from snowcrows is a very easy class to play.

> >

> > It doesnt has the highest amount of dps, but its still good. To that, it is very beefy and can provide a lot of barrier to friends.

> >

> > And it has Epidemic (very op skill)

>

> It has the lowest dps by far + no burst. Its more than 30% behind good builds. Epidemic is the only reason why its even used.

its still counted as dps class & is the easiest dps class of all. Also: no condi classes (except Burn FB) has burst.

It may not have the best dps out of all classes, but people still accept it in pug groups.

condi scourge from snowcrows is a very easy class to play.

It doesnt has the highest amount of dps, but its still good. To that, it is very beefy and can provide a lot of barrier to friends.

And it has Epidemic (very op skill)

i would prefer regionlock for continents.

first: Why platin? Its standard for players. With that u could just let everyone in.

second: Im up for the balancing section idea

Power Revenants are excellent tanks too. They give good support while being very beefy.

Doesnt matter if its a Alacrity-Renegade thats tanking or an (Power-)Boon-Herald.

_Even though herald isnt in a great spot balance-wise atm & not really liked by a big part of the community, its an ,in my opinion, underused tank that can fulfill its job with ease._

seldomly there are heal scourge tanks too. Not bad to have in specific scenarios ^^