Icetea.3204

> @"Nephalem.8921" said: > > @"LuRkEr.9462" said: > > So the only thing I don't agree with on this is bringing 2 eles. Why wouldn't a soulbeast be brought for their unique buffs and abilities in place of 1 ele? > > HB, Alac, BS, SB, Weaver is basically the meta listed on Discreatize. > > I highly doubt it includes Hfb. > > Meta highly depends on the fractal. A good all rounder is 4cfb + ren or 3cfb, bs + ren for easier cc. > 99 + 98cm both are very power centric. Good comps are usually Fb, ren, bs, + slb/weaver or slb/holo or slb/slb. > The best for fast no effort runs are cfb stacks. the aegis spam is just too strong and cfb outdamages power builds if you dont bother with slaying sigils and potions. > You need to have a fairly good team to make power work in all fractals. Cfb is just highly rewarding keyboard smash gameplay. I fully agree. 4 Firebrands an one Ren was the most chill run I've ever had. You don't even need the berserker for cc. Just slot in sanctuary and everything's fine.

> @"LordMorgul.9845" said: > > @"Icetea.3204" said: > > > @"LordMorgul.9845" said: > > > 2 - fix damage system to avoid rotation > > > > > > did u see some classes actual rotation? let's talk about u got the "starting" and the "loop" some build have more than 30 skill memory passages do to correctly to maximize the damages and some of u tink this is good... also let's see damage they do : capped all to max 35 k more or less, so why some pp do 65 70 k? those pp are using external programs like macro and other hacks, but is pve content so devs does matter so much than pvp contents, but yes pp hack on pve a lot and i recently have gotted prof of that so being insulted for my damage by a hack pp is really unfair and unworty and if some dev wanna have a talk about i am here > > > > I don't think you know how damage works. First of all, benchmarks are not capped at 35k. There are quite a few builds thar are above that point. > > Let me tell you how some people reach 70k DPS. In you have Potions, slaying sigils, not sigils, slaying potions and the exposed debuff on an enemy once it's breakbar is broken. Pair that with really short phases and you get insane dps. Slaying potions and sigils don't work in Raids, however some bosses can be phased really quick and some literally take 36% more damage from power. > > You can't just look at the numbers in a vacuum and acuse players that actually know their class that they are hacking and cheating. If you want to have a discussion that low you probably shouldn't have started a forum thread. > > > > > 9 - (yes a new point) kill the sellers > > > this is for the pp that just does want to change raids, i know that is pov, but it feel strange that every time someone wanna argue about, a lot off pp just come in force to preserve the actual state, making raid easy in the ways we talked just goes against one kind of raiders: the SELLERS those pp does want change in the actual state becouse they make profit of that, they selling runs for a lot of gold, and making raids easy will ruin their scamming game so don't trust the words of pp like that they do in theyr greedy interest. > > > > Its not a scam tho. You aren't forced at gunpoint to use the service and every sell guild that wants to keep selling will do the content you are paying them to do for you. > > :D ", a lot off pp just come in force to preserve the actual state, " 70k is COSTANT ? i can reach those damage on open and then i low to a solid 25k costant as guardian but some other classes whit more complex rotation makin 70 K COSTANT in not static bosses?? they cheat for sure and remeber i can proof that and how it is diffuse in some speedrun cm and raids but it is also very noticiabile if some put little efforts like i have done I would like to see your proof that they are cheating then. If you don't feel comfortable doing this on the forums I'll provide you my discord tag.

> @"LordMorgul.9845" said: > 2 - fix damage system to avoid rotation > > did u see some classes actual rotation? let's talk about u got the "starting" and the "loop" some build have more than 30 skill memory passages do to correctly to maximize the damages and some of u tink this is good... also let's see damage they do : capped all to max 35 k more or less, so why some pp do 65 70 k? those pp are using external programs like macro and other hacks, but is pve content so devs does matter so much than pvp contents, but yes pp hack on pve a lot and i recently have gotted prof of that so being insulted for my damage by a hack pp is really unfair and unworty and if some dev wanna have a talk about i am here I don't think you know how damage works. First of all, benchmarks are not capped at 35k. There are quite a few builds thar are above that point. Let me tell you how some people reach 70k DPS. In you have Potions, slaying sigils, not sigils, slaying potions and the exposed debuff on an enemy once it's breakbar is broken. Pair that with really short phases and you get insane dps. Slaying potions and sigils don't work in Raids, however some bosses can be phased really quick and some literally take 36% more damage from power. You can't just look at the numbers in a vacuum and acuse players that actually know their class that they are hacking and cheating. If you want to have a discussion that low you probably shouldn't have started a forum thread. > 9 - (yes a new point) kill the sellers > this is for the pp that just does want to change raids, i know that is pov, but it feel strange that every time someone wanna argue about, a lot off pp just come in force to preserve the actual state, making raid easy in the ways we talked just goes against one kind of raiders: the SELLERS those pp does want change in the actual state becouse they make profit of that, they selling runs for a lot of gold, and making raids easy will ruin their scamming game so don't trust the words of pp like that they do in theyr greedy interest. Its not a scam tho. You aren't forced at gunpoint to use the service and every sell guild that wants to keep selling will do the content you are paying them to do for you.

> @"Wisty.4135" said: > > @"Icetea.3204" said: > > That and the moving due to air 5. There's a bunch of other small things too. > > > Air 5 dagger is a pain but warhorn and focus don't move you, I believe. I haven't played power weaver in so long I don't actually know what weaponsare used on it anymore. I meant Warhorn 5 for Power Tempest. Its your hardest hitting skill and you want to cast it ouside the hitbox of the boss. Then you have to move back in again for FGS4. Little things like that.

> @"Wisty.4135" said: > Condi tempest doesn't use pickups! Three glyphs, signet of fire, dagger warhorn. Very simple rotation with high damage numbers and utility skills boil down to "generally off cooldown, but glyphs only in fire attunement." Yes, I should have specified power tempest. My bad. > Power tempest and weaver both use pickups though, which, while a satisfying rotation are ridiculously hard to get used to. > That and the moving due to air 5. There's a bunch of other small things too.

> @"Wisty.4135" said: > Tempest has a generally easy rotation. Weaver is the Keyboard Buster. Power dragonhunter is middle-of-the-road in terms of complexity but there's a lot of muscle memory and optimiziation of skill use to get the most out of it - namely cancelling aftercasts while being careful not to cancel skills too early, proper positioning and placement of traps, etc. Very good DPS pick if you out in time to master it. > Idk man. Power Weaver is super simple and while condi weaver presses a lot of buttons its still a very consistent pattern. Definitely harder than pweaver tho. I don't agree with tempest being easy tho. Probably one of the hardest rotations to play in an actual fight due to the amount of movement involved and conjures being a huge pita to pick up.

> @"LSD.4673" said: > Light fields are the absolute worst - partly because Guardians are so numerous, and they can pop them with just about every weapon set, thus overriding whatever other field is down; and partly because in 99.5% of PvE, all you want is damage, and hardly anything puts enough conditions on you to rely on a random light field cleanse. > Guardians don't overwrite existing fields. The field that was put down first has priority for finishers. However, only 5 players can get the finishers and after that the next field will get prioritized.