kodesh.2851

> A game is about 8-10 minutes. You can count that + taking into account the waiting time in the lobby + time spend before games really launch.

>

> It's why I'm questioning about Anet.

> After watching how these bots are working and giving all the details + reports, I still see them by 2 sometimes at every matches.

> There is something fishy about all of this, really...

Wow great catch on this. In the early days of HoT I played ranked basically "full time" for a couple seasons and never cracked 2k games in a season. That was being on 8+ hours daily. Side note it totally burnt me out on ranked for good so I would be doubly suspicious of anyone putting in thousands of games a season. The ranked fatigue is real lol.

> @"Ronnie Hu.1694" said:

> I m w@rrior . Anytips? I dunno how to fight mirage . Blink , stealth , evade , infinite dodge what else?

Stun -> attack, repeat as needed. yw bro

As per ush I haven't completed my placement games. There's not much motivation for ranked these days. Long queues, already have mah titles, much salt and arguing and afking, mehhhh.

I still play core mes in pvp and find it viable, it's just not stupid easy like mirage. It dunks on boonbeast, scourge, FB, etc. There's so much synergy in the core trees it's ridiculous. The only thing I'd realllllly want for mesmer is my clone death traits back and Deceptive Evasion made not a GM trait :)

I sometimes play zerk core war. It has high damage, yes, but that's all. There's no camping outnumbered fights with it like spellbreaker. Plenty of things can 1v1 you, so you have to be very map aware and apply the damage where it will be useful to the team.

TL;DR - It's fine.

Lol please. If the DE specs DA or CS for burst, they will have no sustain or mobility. If they spec SA for perma stealth and the sustain, they give up tons of damage. It's fine, lern2play issue.

> @"Axl.8924" said:

> How about instead of nerfing mesmers condi they first nerf condi cleanses instead of having to wreck another condi spec?

>

> Seriously, no more breaking specs.

>

> Anet should rather listen to people who know how the spec performs at max level, so before anymore nerfs happen, I want some information on the performance on all Mesmer specs such as chronomancer core and mirage.

>

Well condi mes takes no clears atm other than Jaunt, which was just nerfed, so congrats Anet has granted your wish

> @"will de grijze jager.6594" said:

> > @"Pooty Tang.8104" said:

> > Did you not read the patch notes?

>

> Portal nerf ah not that bad. a bit less mobility noting more you guys are fine you have still the damage that you can apply without trying. I even can win on mesmer in plat+ and i have only played 4 hour with mesmer. That is how brain dead the condi mirage build is. I stopt with playing it becuase i was os borring.

Pretty much every area of condi mirage has been nerfed already. Durations, damage, count charges, Elusive Mind is a joke trait now. Damage has been nerfed to the point where no condi mirage takes sword anymore so they also have mediocre mobility now. They also have virtually no clears. If you're (ppl in general, not YOU specifically) STILL having trouble imo it's a lern2play issue. The reason newbie mesmers can hang in plat is because there's a lot of non-plat players in those games who are still easily bamboozled by mesmer mechanics. Actual plat players have been fighting it long enough, they know how to deal with the condi mirage one trick pwny. I stopped playing it because my power build is far more effective in most game situations.

Weaknesses of meta mirage spec:

-Very few clears, virtually any condi build will drop them if they make a mistake

-Poor sustain, land a few hits and they have to kite or run

-Low vigor uptime, make them use dodges defensively so they don't get much use out of Infinite Horizon

-Poor clone generation and blinding dissipation/ineptitude means they have to be right on top of you for shatters to matter.

-Not very mobile with axe/staff, easy to kite or out-rotate esp now that many are dropping portal after it was nerfed.

-No precision, condi is their only damage and durations have been repeatedly nerfed. Hoelbrak runes can help a lot, esp with Might makes Right spec.

Core war can take advantage of most of those. Biggest thing I find that helps when fighting mes on war of any build is to be AGGRESSIVE. Get in their face and hit them hard, don't let them control the fight. Bait them into bad positions, drag them to your team or a down and cleave them. When they vanish don't run around waiting, hit where you think they might be. IDK how many times I've whirlwinded thin air and been rewarded with a down mes appearing a sec later ;)

If you guys want an actually viable version of this build, drop mimic and take signet of midnight, signet of ether and signet of illusions (+ blink and Jaunt). Dueling, Inspiration, Mirage. 12 sec chain-able distortion with additional 6 mirage mirrors from Blurred Inscriptions and Desert Distortion. No need to get hit, all on demand. Plus you get a ton of clears and sustain.

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> fear of death is better anyways

^ yeah. I used to take spectral mastery, the extra vit is nice when running zerk, otherwise I take fear of death.

> @"Delweyn.1309" said:

> Is the % of games / matches played with 1 class can influence matchmaking ?

> I know that total matches played does in unranked (If you have more than 10k matches played be prepared to face nearly only strongest opponents and you can forget to try new builds or play for relax).

OOh very interesting... I didn't know it took matches played into account.

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> that trait combo doesn't work.

>

> edit

> nvm. I swear it didn't a couple weeks ago. idk. maybe the cd threw me off (the hidden icd of terrifying descent).

Yeah it's very stronk. Only downside is the smaller shades but that just adds to the fun imo since you deal more damage but need to be more careful with shade placement.

> @"Liza.2758" said:

> Na primtime = pve farmers

> Na late night = playing against same 10 people over and over

> Na offtime = queue for age. Just to get -20

>

> If you wanna have a better life. Move to Eu. It has bigger population and less of those issues

How is the latency for NA players on EU in general?

> @"Vicariuz.1605" said:

> there is NO good time to queue on NA, it is absolute garbage tier gaming experience.

^^ This is true.

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> terror scourge

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQRBLhd+1JRvQTvYvNg5NAbvYJYwoWCThmQUCIAEB0rr91BLA-jpgMQBAY/hKWGAA

^^ Change chilling darkness to terrifying decent, so you get that sweet cascade of torment and burning off of fear :)

Terrorflame Scourge: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNArfWnE9Cd9i92AO9Cs9ilgBLaAEAKXUXhpwvSvu2XHsA-jpxHQB+7IA8tTAgCfAAA4QAwvyATY/BA

100% fear duration, Fear deals damage, causes torment and torment causes burning.

Speedy Reaper: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBhOD7kjGo1Gs2Gw4GgeTscMYR9stVAg6H8EiVx5wf4RE-jpxHQBA4gA8tLAQBPCAKpMQL2fwfPAAA

Perma 66% swiftness, curses line instead of spite gives boon corruption but more importantly plague sending means you don't need plague signet, so you free up a slot for spectral grasp. Pull enemies from 1200 into reaper shroud with full life force, chase down running enemies or flee yourself if things get dicey. Probly my fav build rn.

Holosmith flying under the radar loll. It's the only one that's overtly overpowered right now imo.

Thank the lawd, I can finally blame ANet for not taking portal ;P

> @"myboybuzzy.5809" said:

> > @"Neil.3825" said:

> > I play conjured weapon elem and Kalla/Jalis rev.

>

> I've been working on a conjured weapon ele build but haven't been able to make it work. What's the secret man?

Timing. Try Fiery GS + Fresh Air. Open with Firestorm (FGS 5) from any attune other than air, cast Fiery Rush (FGS 4) and attune air as it lands for the lightning bolt/ferocity boost, Fiery Whirl (FGS 3) through them while you attune air again (if weaver). "One shots" most builds. Also if taking water try Piercing Shards and Aquamancer's Training, since just like you can attune air during a conjure the 20% damage boost in water works with conjures too. The 10% above 90% is just gravy.

Lightning Hammer is fun with Lightning Rod and Tempest Defense, I haven't really played around building for the other conjured weaps yet. Also, don't bother taking the conjured weap trait in fire, it's broken. It grants the fire aura but no reduced CD so pretty useless.

> @"BoOoMeR.6279" said:

> Still i see thief hacker keep use skill Dagger Storm with no cd how ??????

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Improvisation

I agree IM needs a buff or rather slight un-nerf. As it stands there's basically no reason to take it over IH on any spec.

> Suffice to say it's a bit better then Holosmith's invuln where they do nothing while under elixir.

Yea of all the things to complain about with Holo, and it's Elixir S which hasn't been changed in... ever lol

Also if you're in a match and constantly using call target on a mesmer to win a 1v1 on a side node your team might rightly get annoyed if they're in a team fight mid and their target keeps changing. I main mes, it's not a problem.

> @"jportell.2197" said:

> > @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

> > > @"incisorr.9502" said:

> > > clickbait/sensationalism thread

> > >

> > > out of 9 classes and about 14-15 meta builds the only semi-working condi build in the game is mesmer cus power is so ridiculously busted right now

> > >

> > > literally 3-4 holos on average in all my games cus the power scaling is just stupid

> > >

> >

> > Yes, we know you're a mesmer main with a hatred towards power classes. You've made that evidently clear by now.

>

> Ok but can you sit there and say the holochain cc wombo combo is ok?

> @"jportell.2197" said:

> Im honestly so surprised by the amount of people defending the necro who just SAT there and ATE all the conditions. Not one dodge, not one look at his skill bar to see what condis he had on him. He literally would have taken less than half the damage with ONE dodge roll, and ONE stun break WHILE casting his heal. Instead he dodged zero times, spammed all his stun breaks and THEN casted his heal. Instead he cast *three* separate skills by mashing them in quick succession, instead of realizing what he was going against and what they could.

>

> This is literally the equivalent of a mesmer eating an entire spin to win reaper shroud combo with quickness (which takes a little more than 2 seconds but still.) Then coming to the forum and complaining that reapers are OP.

^^ My man nails it. I watched the vid and was like "okay so unaware reaper got hit, and?"

I play condi mirage, I also play power reaper, both specs are very strong and good at what they do. Are they OP? Not any more than anything else right now. And they both have more counters than other things *coughHOLOcough* There was a lot of power creep this xpac imo.