GewRoo.4172

> @"Varnix.5204" said: > you do realise that right? Keep dreaming.

> @"LokiSaint.3457" said: > it's been a few hours and nothing was fixed or announced You want more announcements?

> @"Ziggityzog.7389" said: > Best part about it that it made the cost of the infiltrator arrorw into more of a elite weapon skill status. You should not be able to teleport across half the map in just 3 #5 skill uses. How about take like 500 off the range and we'll talk about giving bake the lessened initiative. > > It was a broken skill since launch. Would have been a reasonable idea honestly but they pulled an ANet you know

I do not understand why so many of you don't get that these bots are intended to be there. I do not know why Anet does not simply confirm it but the evidence is so clear that this the most reasonable if not only explanation for the ongoing existence of so many bots. Low pop is no myth.

Doesn't it work now like pre march 2019?

> @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > @"Dantheman.3589" said: > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > @"Dantheman.3589" said: > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > @"Dantheman.3589" said: > > > > > > Stealth thief builds didn’t specifically get nerfed, but I think it’s more likely for sw/d build to take thief place- ie deadeye and s/d daredevil. These builds can sometimes win 1v1s and can snowball team fights where things like dhs and power revs might be. > > > > > > > > > > Why would you play a poor duelist who performs even worse in teamfights? Thiefs purpose hasnt changed, its still a decap and +1 bot. And there is nothing that made D/P specifically worse at that than other builds (And Deadeye is not going to work as long as projectile destruction and reflect is as abundant as it is, and DJ is as unhittable as it is). > > > > > > > > You wouldn’t play a poor duelist- you would be playing a build that hard counters dh and power revs that has much improved mobility from d/p builds that can not only 1v1 better than other s/d builds but do more damage- just how Sa dp would do at least as much damage as Da dp, but with much improved sustain > > > > > > Youre playing thief. That means youre playing a poor duelist at best. How exactly do you intend to counter DH, who still has better damage, defense, CC and sustain? Youd still be a pure decap and +1 bot that avoids 1v1s like the plague, so there is no real advantage to D/P. Its not like you get more mobility because IA is still the best movement you have. > > > > Dh can 1v1 at least in ranked, but it’s not a 1v1 build. Keep in mind s/d daredevil is and has been possibly the best counter to these dh builds for multiple seasons at least according to multiple plat-legend guards and thief players. > > I mean of course DH is not a 1v1 build. But Thief is not a 1v1 *class*. And when it comes to 1v1ing, DH still does a lot better. Thief is a counter in +1 scenarios, not 1v1 scenarios. And its good at that because it can rip crucial boons from DH, interrupt their high cast time valuable skills with ease, and mess them up with blinds. But, in a 1v1 scenario that doesnt save the thief. He still loses. There is a reason DH was fine in the 2v2 seasons (though not top tier) and thief was either the only, or one of the only two classes that were unplayable. Dan has a point. S/D DrD and core Thief with Acro will get the better of DH but that's limited to straight 1v1s - doesn't happen too often in Conquest let alone 2v2s. Problem is these builds are actually very good duellists when fighting one opponent but so weak to +1s it is hardly worth a try in ranked imo.

> @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"Halikus.1406" said: > > > > > > @"BeepBoopBop.5403" said: > > > > > > > @"Halikus.1406" said: > > > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Halikus.1406" said: > > > > > > > > > Thief mobility was never balanced to begin with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That IS a big nerf, don't get me wrong, but thief is still the most mobile class out there and mobility in this game needs to be brought down. I can absolutely understand them not being happy, but this is long overdue lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay but there was nothing given in compensation. Shortbow is now by far the most expensive weapon and it's a utility weapon. You can't make the most important tool on the class so expensive and just leave them with nothing in return. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What? You want more? lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SB is already offers a buttload of utility in every skill to the point of being a pretty much mandatory weapon to have and you want compensation? Be glad that was all they did to it lol > > > > > > > > > > > > Thief has gotten MANY damage nerfs to the past because of it's 'OP' mobility. THAT is why it's extremely upsetting that all that kitten is just down the drain while they nerf mobility too and give nothing in return. > > > > > > > > > > The dmg nerfs to some weapons, dagger in particular, may seen to much now I agree. But I dont think thief needs anything more except for some minor number adjustments here and there, because what truly needs to happen is for the still overperforming classes/specs to be brought down. > > > > > > > > sorry if im honest daredevil still does crazy burst damage.. while having stealth to poof out once he done its burst.. most classes have been nerfed and most people try to go bunker now to survive against annoying stealth daredevil who burst them down out of no where.. if im honest thief is the most cancer build to play against in pvp.. and im kind of sad they did not remove some of the stealth or rework stelth.. i think daredevil damage is actually pretty good.. > > > > a + 1 class with best mobility in game and no cd stealth and so many evades and what not.. shouldnt do damage like a necro or like any other class really.. and yet their damage is still pretty high... thieves just want to kill everyone > > > > > > In what world is 5k on your hardest hitting skill (and a lot less on your regular skills) "Crazy burst damage"? Bloody hell. Thief damage is pathetic. Theyre still incredibly good because theyre so fast they can decap and +1 better than anyone else, and you dont need much damage for that, but to say that their damage is anything other than really low is silly. They dont do nearly as much damage as *any* other class. Necro hits a *lot* harder. > > > > they do low numbers but fast.. their damage really isnt bad.. > > Actually, that 5k is the entire damage of backstab burst. Thats it, after that theyd have to launch another attack. It usually takes a thief a couple seconds just to match the damage a reaper does in one hit. Their damage is *very* bad. Dude this guy wasn't even playing pre feb patch xD

> @"darren.1064" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"darren.1064" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"JusticeRetroHunter.7684" said: > > > > > > > @"darren.1064" said: > > > > > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > > you only prove you are a kitten who think you can show off titles.. ok .. you ahve titles so everything you say is the truth.. well sorry mate.. 99.9999999999% of the people here who dont play thief dont like to fight against thief .. thief is a problem for everyone here even for bigger players than you are so take your arrogant approach with your meaningless titles and go bully someone else .. > > > > > > > > > > People forget how strong thief was 2 years ago...in comparison to now, it's a joke what's happened to thief. Darren is a top 100 player. He knows how to play thief I've dueled him many times, and I share his disdain for people that think thief is OP... It's ghost of it's former self...all the fun sucked dry from all weapons...all traits... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if he was more op .. doesnt mean its weak now.. you can not compare to what it was but to the builds you have currently ! > > > > its like speaking about spell breaker.. how op it was . and look now? or scourge? but its not how to think about it.. the fact is thief is still meta.. daredevil is still very strong class and im sorry you disagree. but thief dont need to have super mobility and still be able to kill every class.. > > > > > > The thing is, Thief isn't killing every class. Thief is another class that faces counters and weaknesses from multiple other professions. The easiest way to kill thief is literally one of the dozens of skills that forces a thief into revealed, however people don't have enough brain cells to bring those anymore usually, they just complain when a thief goes into stealth. I can think of 100 different counters for thief, but if you don't ever play it then you'll never discover them. We die in 2 hits, but you sure don't see us asking for more vitality or toughness. We just want these nerfs to stop and to see some added damage because our current damage is rather pitiful. > > > > then ill say it again.. the issue i have with thieves is stealth... and unless stealth is finally reworked.. thieves are problem.. > > and sorry not every class/build can have reveal .. if they give every class a decent reveal skills eyah i wont have problem with thieves dont get me wrong i dont want to see thieves as bad class.. i want rework for steralth :) > > What class do you play? Dude why would you try so hard to argue with ppl who obviously have no idea about the game let alone the specializations or mechanics of certain classes lmao

You are thinking way too high of the current (!) devs knowledge, understanding or vision of the game and what they are doing. You won't find any reason or deeper meaning behind their actions. Multiple rounds of layoffs should be a clear warning regarding their work ethic (why is it so hard not doing the same stupid mistakes over and over again?) , public relations (how about sharing some comments on the recent changes?) and business strategy (how about actually listening to your quite competent community?) yet it only gets worse. It's horrible to watch what is happening to this game bc of personnel inabilities. Please don't take the time to make some thoughtful requests because nothing will ever be implemented or discussed by Soon™ Inc.

Obviously they have absolutely no clue of what they are doing or what they are are supposed to do.

> @"Trinceo.3065" said: > Quality Assurance Team > xDDDDDDDDDDD

You guys have a really bad memory if you think build diversity is bad. You can play almost everything and perform so much better than pre feb patch. Scourge and Firebrand dominated the meta of ranked and ats for what felt like an eternity and we all had to adjust to these two classes. All the teams could do was stacking Power Herald or Holos plus what was the most broken side noder. 95 % of games and teams were identitical class and build wise. Ofc some weapons, specs or utilities need adjustments rn but that's the most diverse period of pvp since a very long time.

Good one. Incredible how often you can pull it off

Grothmar Valley if you haven't already since it gives quite a few nice things. Crystal Desert is a very, very good pick in my opinion since you will get a lot of liquid gold based on a lot of random trophy drops which you can sell for up to one gold each. Additionally the final chest (Desert Armor Box) will give you ten Testimonies of Heroics which can be exchanged for HoT/PoF Hero Points to unlock and complete elite specializations. Furthermore you will get an exotic armor piece with completely free selectable stats (including the very expensive options like Trailblazers, Vipers etc.). But it is true, the Living World reward tracks might beat it with the "unique" currencies they bring in.

> @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > Would you give up your 3rd dodge for it? No, but i would give up the ability to get revealed as tradeoff. Deal?