mes.4607 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I'm trying to get some scion weapons. If I buy Dragon Coffers from TP, is there a chance I will get one like Reaver of the Scion? https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reaver_of_the_Scion I'm a little slow so sometimes I misunderstand stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 There is a chance yes to get a Gift of Aurene which has them. An extremely low chance. You are guaranteed getting one from the first 1000 mistborn coffers opened in the Dragonfall map if rng doesn't work for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 There is a chance but according to the the data(https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragon_Coffer/drop_rate) that is 1 in 95,000 or 0.001% Since that is only one data point, the actual rate might be much worse and the person who got that one was just "lucky". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > There is a chance yes to get a Gift of Aurene which has them. An extremely low chance. > > You are guaranteed getting one from the first 1000 mistborn coffers opened in the Dragonfall map if rng doesn't work for you Has anyone calculated how long that takes? I haven't been to that map is forever, but I mean 1000 chests is still a lot of metas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 > @"Turkeyspit.3965" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > There is a chance yes to get a Gift of Aurene which has them. An extremely low chance. > > > > You are guaranteed getting one from the first 1000 mistborn coffers opened in the Dragonfall map if rng doesn't work for you > > Has anyone calculated how long that takes? I haven't been to that map is forever, but I mean 1000 chests is still a lot of metas. If you manage to grab every coffer one per cycle ... 6 per lane x 3 9 for completing the meta 3 per champ x 9 so that is 54 per meta or a minimum of 19 Dragonfall metas completed but that is not really doable with just one lane it would be 6 + 9 + 27 = 42 per meta or 24 metas completed but you might not have enough keys from the perspective of keys you should be able to get at least 22 keys(should be higher, not sure how many you get from the final chest) per meta assuming you are there from start to finish which brings us to 46 metas completed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 > @"Khisanth.2948" said: > > @"Turkeyspit.3965" said: > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > There is a chance yes to get a Gift of Aurene which has them. An extremely low chance. > > > > > > You are guaranteed getting one from the first 1000 mistborn coffers opened in the Dragonfall map if rng doesn't work for you > > > > Has anyone calculated how long that takes? I haven't been to that map is forever, but I mean 1000 chests is still a lot of metas. > > If you manage to grab every coffer one per cycle ... > 6 per lane x 3 > 9 for completing the meta > 3 per champ x 9 > > so that is 54 per meta or a minimum of 19 Dragonfall metas completed but that is not really doable > > with just one lane it would be 6 + 9 + 27 = 42 per meta or 24 metas completed but you might not have enough keys > > from the perspective of keys you should be able to get at least 22 keys(should be higher, not sure how many you get from the final chest) per meta assuming you are there from start to finish which brings us to 46 metas completed Hrm, so that's not nearly as bad as I thought, though the issue is the keys - if you could buy them from the vendor with map currency like you can with HoT metas, that would be OK, but this forces me to have to do the pre-events as well as the meta. According to my achievement tab, I've only done The Battle of Dragonfall 13 times...yikes. Oh well lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 > @"Turkeyspit.3965" said: > > @"Khisanth.2948" said: > > > @"Turkeyspit.3965" said: > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > There is a chance yes to get a Gift of Aurene which has them. An extremely low chance. > > > > > > > > You are guaranteed getting one from the first 1000 mistborn coffers opened in the Dragonfall map if rng doesn't work for you > > > > > > Has anyone calculated how long that takes? I haven't been to that map is forever, but I mean 1000 chests is still a lot of metas. > > > > If you manage to grab every coffer one per cycle ... > > 6 per lane x 3 > > 9 for completing the meta > > 3 per champ x 9 > > > > so that is 54 per meta or a minimum of 19 Dragonfall metas completed but that is not really doable > > > > with just one lane it would be 6 + 9 + 27 = 42 per meta or 24 metas completed but you might not have enough keys > > > > from the perspective of keys you should be able to get at least 22 keys(should be higher, not sure how many you get from the final chest) per meta assuming you are there from start to finish which brings us to 46 metas completed > > Hrm, so that's not nearly as bad as I thought, though the issue is the keys - if you could buy them from the vendor with map currency like you can with HoT metas, that would be OK, but this forces me to have to do the pre-events as well as the meta. > > According to my achievement tab, I've only done The Battle of Dragonfall 13 times...yikes. Oh well lol. The recurring events that start after a camp hits t1 also gives keys. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mistborn_Key So you do each lane up to https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stop_the_Branded_Mender_from_collecting_magic_for_Kralkatorrik to get all the coffers then start doing other stuff for keys On the other hand guaranteed stuff usually have worse "odds" than the natural drop so in theory most people should get it before the 1000 coffers. This should be more of a safety net for the people on the right side of the curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 open 5000+ chests, nothing good for me.. more cheaper buy legendary wepon. welcome on TP https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Frostfang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 > @"Khisanth.2948" said: > > @"Turkeyspit.3965" said: > > > @"Khisanth.2948" said: > > > > @"Turkeyspit.3965" said: > > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > > There is a chance yes to get a Gift of Aurene which has them. An extremely low chance. > > > > > > > > > > You are guaranteed getting one from the first 1000 mistborn coffers opened in the Dragonfall map if rng doesn't work for you > > > > > > > > Has anyone calculated how long that takes? I haven't been to that map is forever, but I mean 1000 chests is still a lot of metas. > > > > > > If you manage to grab every coffer one per cycle ... > > > 6 per lane x 3 > > > 9 for completing the meta > > > 3 per champ x 9 > > > > > > so that is 54 per meta or a minimum of 19 Dragonfall metas completed but that is not really doable > > > > > > with just one lane it would be 6 + 9 + 27 = 42 per meta or 24 metas completed but you might not have enough keys > > > > > > from the perspective of keys you should be able to get at least 22 keys(should be higher, not sure how many you get from the final chest) per meta assuming you are there from start to finish which brings us to 46 metas completed > > > > Hrm, so that's not nearly as bad as I thought, though the issue is the keys - if you could buy them from the vendor with map currency like you can with HoT metas, that would be OK, but this forces me to have to do the pre-events as well as the meta. > > > > According to my achievement tab, I've only done The Battle of Dragonfall 13 times...yikes. Oh well lol. > > The recurring events that start after a camp hits t1 also gives keys. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mistborn_Key > > So you do each lane up to https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stop_the_Branded_Mender_from_collecting_magic_for_Kralkatorrik to get all the coffers then start doing other stuff for keys > > On the other hand guaranteed stuff usually have worse "odds" than the natural drop so in theory most people should get it before the 1000 coffers. This should be more of a safety net for the people on the right side of the curve. I know im just one person, but it took me opening 1000 chests to get the scion weapon, and yes i kept track. I havent seen one since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes.4607 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 @"Dante.1763" 1,000 of the ones buyable from the TP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 > @"mrauls.6519" said: > @"Dante.1763" 1,000 of the ones buyable from the TP? That's the dragon coffers. It's the mistborn coffers from the map itself you need to open your first 1000 of to get a weapon guaranteed The Dragon coffer just gives a very, very, very low chance of the weapon you want, but not the guarantee after 1000 opens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrow.7513 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I would love nothing more than to get another scion weapon but because the RNG is so low, I have no faith in acquiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 They should add them to the guaranteed unlockers, there’s literally thousands of skins in there so they don’t lose much rarity. Yet at the same time people who love the set, or completionists, have a distant hope they can finish the set (by unlocking everything in the wardrobe things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 > @"Fenom.9457" said: > They should add them to the guaranteed unlockers, there’s literally thousands of skins in there so they don’t lose much rarity. Yet at the same time people who love the set, or completionists, have a distant hope they can finish the set (by unlocking everything in the wardrobe things) I think this is fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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