What you think is gonna be new thief elite spec and what weapon it will unlock?

[Dadnir.5038]

> @"Fueki.4753" said:

> > @"Dadnir.5038" said:

> > Mechanism: F1: _Shadow siphon:_ Drain shadows from your target, revealing it

> There is one big, fundamental problem with that, like many other reveal skills:

> **You need a target.**

> Since you can't target enemies that already are stealthed, this manner of reveal cannot be used to counter stealth which means **it's mostly useless.**

>

> Instead of adding more target reveals, they should **rework every existing reveal skill** into an area reveal.

> Pre-emptively revealing an enemy (that might not even have planned to use stealth) is pointless.

>

>

 

Did you just read up to this point or did you care to read the whole thing?

The idea is to use your ability to reveal in order to proc conditions (or other effects) via traits, in this context, a F1 revealing your foe is a springboard for those traits to be meaningful. As such since pre-emptively revealing an enemy is pointless in a general manner, it become valuable in the case of this specific specialization.

[aaron.7850]

A shadow caster would be awesome, with foci

[Fueki.4753]

> @"Dadnir.5038" said:

> Did you just read up to this point or did you care to read the whole thing?

> The idea is to use your ability to reveal in order to proc conditions (or other effects) via traits, in this context, a F1 revealing your foe is a springboard for those traits to be meaningful. As such since pre-emptively revealing an enemy is pointless in a general manner, it become valuable in the case of this specific specialization.

 

Piling effects on top of reveal doesn't change the basic fact that the target-requiring reveal itself is pointless.

You might as well keep the regular Steal and pile the same effects onto it.

 

But I doubt Arenanet will make an elite specialization that piles even more onto F1.

The Trickery line already is full of it.

 

 

[lare.5129]

hope No anmy new elites come. It so predictably .. Hope Anet can impress us more than same style as was in hot and pof

[Sobx.1758]

> @"Fueki.4753" said:

> > @"Dadnir.5038" said:

> > Did you just read up to this point or did you care to read the whole thing?

> > The idea is to use your ability to reveal in order to proc conditions (or other effects) via traits, in this context, a F1 revealing your foe is a springboard for those traits to be meaningful. As such since pre-emptively revealing an enemy is pointless in a general manner, it become valuable in the case of this specific specialization.

>

> Piling effects on top of reveal doesn't change the basic fact that the target-requiring reveal itself is pointless.

 

Pretty sure part of the complaints about stealth is that in case it goes south for the thief, it can disengage with help of long lasting stealth. Pre-applying reveal also denies stealth attacks and stealth activated traits, so it's not exactly "pointless" -...except against de.