Get rid Of placements

[Leonidrex.5649]

> @"Anomaly.7612" said:

> > @"supvil.3470" said:

> > Placements are bad since ppl are treated unevenly by them. Everyone will be pulled towards the 1200 mark. And due to the very broad matchmaking, everyone will be playing with everyone. Depending on your class and if you duo or not this will lead to uncarryable games.

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> > Since the first few matches you play are key to your placement; getting "unlucky" during those games means you will sink hard.

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> > The only way to maneuver around it is to play duo where both players are playing high dmg/burst roamers (holo, thief, zerker rev). Where you and your duo just run around and burst ppl down. Since half of the teams will be filled with 1000-1400 ppl who will just flop playign a duo like this will lead to snowballing of most matches you're in.

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> > If you like to play support, sidenoder, teamfight brawler you're out of luck. This isn't as effective for placements. If you cant roam across the entire map and kill literally everyone you can still lose.

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> > This is a screen of my results during a lost match. I held and killed 2-3 ppl at far solo pretty much the entire game.

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> > https://imgur.com/DjmWSLm

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> This makes a lot of sense. I won 7/10 placements, got put in gold 2, duo queue'd with a friend and lost 4 in a row. One team had a burn DH that would just sit in mid and watch fights happen at far and home. They still won. My friend and I rushed far in the beginning of a game, chain killed players and gave our team a 100 point lead. Still lost.

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> I main thief and he mains ele. He'd swap between auramancer or weaver. I play d/p power but mostly p/d condi. Those 4 games were incredibly frustrating since it seemed that no matter how much we'd try, we'd lose. I'd time my rotations well. Pop into a team fight to burst someone down then leave to decap and roam.

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> Didn't matter. Skill rating dropped 100 points and I went from almost G3 to now G1. I really don't understand this match making system. I'm no pvp goddess but I do well for myself and won most of my quali's yet I get in matches with people that don't rez, stomp, just stand on a node, don't try and play to the objective like the bell in capricorn or stillness/tranq, etc. And since I play a thief I'm often blamed yet walk away with high marks for decapping. I usually only die a max of 3 times a game. *shrug* Feels hopeless. I just want to farm shards to be able to make legendary armor.

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> Maybe WvW would be better to just sit in all the time since the legendary armor looks nicer. I enjoy doing AT's everyday. I typically have better matches there than ranked. GW2 pvp matchmaker seems screwy.

 

If you die more then once as a thief there is a problem, but you should seriously die 0 times, and 1 time when you really overextend/fuck up

from what I have seen from ~gold rank thiefs is that they make BIG mistakes that they dont even realize are mistakes, like wasting sooo much time moving to wrong places, or overstaying in fights for way too long, taking wrong routes that loses them time, not knowing shortcuts, etc.

[choovanski.5462]

> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Thanks.6859" said:

> > > @"Math.5123" said:

> > > > @"Thanks.6859" said:

> > > > AliamRationem.5172 No match history

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> > > You realize you can't see cross- region leaderboards, right?

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> > Fact check THE only people that dont show are the ones that didn't finish there min game requirement AKA Placements ive played with over 200 people in 40 games . Im on my 40th game I'm still playing with people doing there placements. #get rid of placements

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> or how about get good and carry them? in silver if you are plat material you should go 40/0 and hard carry yourself at LEAST to high gold.

> like kitten me I got to high gold by playing warrior without knowing anything more then throw sword, rush in F1 hope enemy ded

 

you are correct. it's difficult not to hard carry to plat if you are high skill because pop is just so incredibly low skill, the difference you can make is huge.

 

if you are unable to carry, you aren't playing as well as you think you are. sad truth.

[Megametzler.5729]

Just throwing this in, don't know if it has been posted yet. Sometimes it is not about "I agree with you", but about actual facts.

 

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/754380#Comment_754380

 

Maybe Anet should actually show the rating changes in placement matches, but the aim of finding a good first guess of someones rating should definitely remain the same. This is how GLICKO works. The rating changes are just hidden to not trigger people.

 

The "i needed to climb after my placement matches"-situations are a result of the soft reset before each season.

[Aspen Tie.5084]

I agree with op - I think placements are a little silly too. Start everyone in the middle and fire it off. No questions of hidden mmr or alleged detrimental gains/losses during the ten placement matches. Everyone starts equal and moves from there.