Umair.7693 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Yea, make it 2sec or 2 stack with 1 sec per stack. This skill need to give more value to thief to justify it as an "Elite skill". Ofcourse, it is unblockable attack but 1.5 sec kinda short time. Especially for thief who want to position themself for Backstab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 It had higher numbers before and deemed too powerful given it can be shared. At one point it had two strikes , 1 second each. Once Venomshare made baseline the duration went to 1.5 seconds 1 strike. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asur.9178 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 It's a pretty trash elite compared to a lot of elites in the game, but nobody is willing to admit it, and it's the best elite thief has. Instead of buffing durations and stacks, if it were made similar to the utility venoms (instant cast), it could be less trashy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse.4631 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 It's a 1 second stun on a class which can do combos pretty quickly, i don't think its bad at all. I will agree that all our elites are quite lack luster, and basi would have made more sense as a utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siltherium.3492 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 > @Jesse.4631 said: > It's a 1 second stun on a class which can do combos pretty quickly, i don't think its bad at all. I will agree that all our elites are quite lack luster, and basi would have made more sense as a utility. DE have a longer stun which isn't an Elite Skill... The fact here is the Share factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casiano.2705 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @Asur.9178 said: > It's a pretty trash elite compared to a lot of elites in the game, but nobody is willing to admit it, and it's the best elite thief has. > > Instead of buffing durations and stacks, if it were made similar to the utility venoms (instant cast), it could be less trashy. I agree, if they could make basilisk venom insta cast, it would open up new/additional combos in our aresenal. Maybe its a little bit of a stretch, maybe a lingering buff after a successful hit of basi, “basilisk’s gaze” your attacks after successfully landing basi will make your attacks unblockable for 2 secs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 You know you are on the thief subforum when there are threads asking for buffs to meta skills and builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @Umair.7693 said: > Yea, make it 2sec or 2 stack with 1 sec per stack. This skill need to give more value to thief to justify it as an "Elite skill". > Ofcourse, it is unblockable attack but 1.5 sec kinda short time. Especially for thief who want to position themself for Backstab. > Most people who take Basilisk Venom don't use it for re-positioning. Usually when you backstab you're already in position. They often pop it when they are going in for a backstab so they can chunk the person twice with a back attack before they can get away. That, or to get past a guardian's bs constant access to aegis. It used to be a lot better back when the thief had multiple uses of it instead of venom sharing it. But the Venom share made it much stronger for raids instead of PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Do not forget as well that just prior to making venomshare baseline, unblockable was added to BV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asur.9178 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 > @Crinn.7864 said: > You know you are on the thief subforum when there are threads asking for buffs to meta skills and builds. Just because something is "meta", does not mean it's amazing or not in need of a "buff". Thief innately have a shitshow set of elites. Therefore, it's obvious you select the best possible one...which just happens to be the least worst of them all. It's been the same way for over 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saku Joe.2857 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 i would definitly drop BV for an extra utility if that was possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 The ability to land, let's say a 10k backstab while someone is blocking in a given window of a few seconds is more then enough for this to be an elite. It's already being shared to 4 other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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