coredump.2391 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 So I've been running DH with the meta build zeal/radiance + sword/torch|GS. It's fun, and interesting, but I keep thinking that DH was supposed to be using a bow, and most builds that are 'meta' don't include one. I am sure there's a good reason for that (lack of DPS or sommething), but is it possible to have a DH power build that actually uses a bow? I mostly do Fractals (and still low level at that) and have maybe 3 or 4 ascended pieces (GS/Sword/Torch/Rings and 1 trinket) and open world PVE (specially HOT meta map events). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmageddonAsh.6430 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Forget the meta. Give it a try, if you like it continue using it. I myself loved the Longbow in my old WvW build. Dont play PvE much so i cant say if its good there but why not just give it a try? If it works and you enjoy it, then play it. Dont worry about whats meta and whats meta. Play what you enjoy ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coredump.2391 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 > @"ArmageddonAsh.6430" said: > Forget the meta. Give it a try, if you like it continue using it. I myself loved the Longbow in my old WvW build. Dont play PvE much so i cant say if its good there but why not just give it a try? If it works and you enjoy it, then play it. Dont worry about whats meta and whats meta. Play what you enjoy ^^ Eh, I also don't want to feel useless to the group/stuff specially on fractals. And as a developer I'm used to think that there's always someone that already tried stuff so I don't need to :persevere: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmageddonAsh.6430 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 > @"coredump.2391" said: > Eh, I also don't want to feel useless to the group/stuff specially on fractals. And as a developer I'm used to think that there's always someone that already tried stuff so I don't need to :persevere: The only way someone could actually be useless is they dont actually DO anything, as long as you are following the mechanics and things are dying. Then you are doing fine. This whole meta obsession the game has is pointless. As long as its killed thats what counts. As long as you complete the factual or kill the boss that is what matters not doing it that 0.01second faster because you're running a meta build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptAurellian.9537 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Please do not use longbow in fractals. You'll just give other people a bad impression of guardians, since an evil stare will do more damage than that weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yLoon.5289 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 As a Guardian in fractal, you need to adapt to a particular situation by swapping weapons and traits. For instance, Snowblind, you need that Longbow 3 for the knockback on the Ice Elemental. In Swampland, you need that Shield 5 during boss AOE if your group is lack of CC. A good Guardian is defined by how well he can adapt and protect his teammate, while at the same time, dealing damage. For OWPvE, use whatever weapons you need for your own survival, no one is affected if you died anyway xD. But currently, I'm going back to core guard build xD with good old sword and shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 rip longbow nubs from pvp went on a campaign to eviscerate true shot, they were successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptAurellian.9537 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 > @"yLoon.5289" said: > For instance, Snowblind, you need that Longbow 3 for the knockback on the Ice Elemental. *cough* Scepter #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 If you want ranged weapon in fractals use scepter. OWPvP use what ever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yLoon.5289 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 > @"CptAurellian.9537" said: > > @"yLoon.5289" said: > > For instance, Snowblind, you need that Longbow 3 for the knockback on the Ice Elemental. > *cough* Scepter #3. > Single target CC 20 secs cooldown vs Group target CC 10 secs cooldown? With Longbow you can KD/push away that Ice Elemental every time it appears, thus giving more time to kill it before it even comes near to the bonfire. =x Furthermore, mobs are running around and won't stay put, your Scepter 2 will hit air most of the time. Long cooldown of Scepter 3 doesn't really help much either, thus Longbow AA/2/3 is superior in every way for that situation. The point is, when the party is lack of CC, filled with beginners, pugs are not pulling up their own weight to CC, pull mob, aoe dmg, Longbow is absolutely viable in that particular situation. It is crucial that we need to adapt to the pugs we got into, not just blindly follow the "either my way or the high way mentality" which ultimately spoiling the gaming experience for the beginners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Longbow is actually very viable! SW, Istaan and other metas, its awesome tag weapon. + with the Spear + True Shot you can 1 shot trash mobs. But for instanced pve Scepter is indeed better in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabbitUp.8294 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 > @"yLoon.5289" said: > > @"CptAurellian.9537" said: > > > @"yLoon.5289" said: > > > For instance, Snowblind, you need that Longbow 3 for the knockback on the Ice Elemental. > > *cough* Scepter #3. > > > > Single target CC 20 secs cooldown vs Group target CC 10 secs cooldown? You also need to change grandmasters, from Big Game Hunter which is a great source of vuln (especially after the recent nerfs) and a personal 7-10% dmg increase, to Heavy Light, which is practically useless, apart from putting that kb on Deflecting Shot. Sure, it happens that you can afford to do so during that particular phase of Snowblind, but we are already talking about a single phase of a single fractal and only when the pug sucks. You don't even need cc to deal with the ice elementals, they are very easy to dps down. But for when you need another source of cc, lb+Heavy Light shouldn't be your first choice. Even for ice elementals, alternating between scepter 3 and shield 5 is enough. You even have F1 and GS 5 for backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahkeus.8243 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Longbow is pretty fine for open world and I usually use that with GS when I frolic around. However, scepter just beats it pretty handily for anything remotely serious (sadly). Even if you need a knock back, you’ll still lose less dps by using scepter+shield than a trained longbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yLoon.5289 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"RabbitUp.8294" said: > But for when you need another source of cc, lb+Heavy Light shouldn't be your first choice. Even for ice elementals, alternating between scepter 3 and shield 5 is enough. You even have F1 and GS 5 for backup. In a experience group, sure it will be suffice, but this method will failed if others do not know how to assist in cc and having weak dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptAurellian.9537 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 As long as you know how to play your DH, just be on your toes and solo the ice elementals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarktastic.1027 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 > @"CptAurellian.9537" said: > As long as you know how to play your DH, just be on your toes and solo the ice elementals. I second this. If I can solo the ice elementals as a condi renegade, a power DH on scepter/torch would steamroll them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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