Killthehealersffs.8940 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Guizao.4167" said: > Data please? This is not something I see. Between 2012 ~2015 the pvp population was big, and there were many matches going on. Every time I log in, may it be day or night, it's dead. It's not just the same people playing. Ranked is not what it used to be. "Hotjoin doesn't exist anymore" - everything is stagnant. No growth. Why play more than 10-15 games per week in ranked ? Why play unranked if the rewards are locked behind ranked ? PPl would go to Hotjoin to farm Glory (960 was the highest, while winning offered 150) to unlock the finishers :P Some ppl whined that bunkers in Ranked couldnt get that much glory . Also whined that ppl didnt care about winning or loosing , but rather go for the kills , which promoted bad habits . And that we should nerf the Hotjoins to increase the population in ranked , forcing ppl to care about it and form more teams Also if egypt mesmers couldnt get in the 1st paid tournaments , they would make a posts that GW2 wont work because it dont have replay + freeze button + infrostarction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altresa.9832 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 when i read all this unknown account names of the no bar, i assume that bronze is pretty alive xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guizao.4167 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Daishi.6027" said: > PvP was dead on arrival when they decided to format the game in a way that refused to force balance where it was _**Fair**_ 2v2-3v3 regardless of class, revolving around enemy player deaths as a win condition. This was important for a MMO's PvP to succeeded unless you make the game a strait MOBA. > > They tried the team game thing but with no jousts or any form of _proper_ push and pull. > They tried the conquest thing where rotations, and picking and choosing engagements was important. > They tried to make this game an e-sport despite how hard it is to watch, when the vast majority can't distinguish what is going on; and those already invested struggle find it interesting. > > But it was doomed. > > The proof of this claim was shown time and again from a few examples like: petting zoo, the exodus of pro players, and the end to ESL, among many others. > The meta shifts, but it's always dominated by the same type of thing, regardless of what face or class you put it on simply because of the nature of the game. > > For all the years this game has been out, there has been no direct address to the formula except an attempt at stronghold. > Fact is even is balance is better, even if the game is more fun to play at times; the game and it's type are still bad. > > It's the smallest population in game, it's probably the least profitable, and it's the hardest to justify sinking money into; especially when a-net is already needing to push a revenue stream. Majority of the players remaining are the tiny minority who actually enjoy conquest, players who just want to kill players when WvW is a poorly accommodating environment that also requires investment for a proper build, and PvE/WvW players who come looking for rewards. > > Dead in the traditional sense? No, probably not. Maybe even their numbers grow. But PvP is irrelevant to the point where it might as well be dead. > > I optimistically think it could make a come back, and maybe even be e-sport level... But the core issues need to be fixed. True. :anguished: > @"dragonkain.3984" said: > > @"Guizao.4167" said: > > The situation is far worse than it appears to be. There used to be much more people playing PvP everyday when hotjoin was a thing. I'm not gonna deny that diversity didn't exist back in 2012 but it was better than what we have now. Since the trait revamp the PvP scenario has been seeing a huge decrease in numbers of active players. Then came HoT specs and everything went from bad to worse. Why do you guys still insist on promotting this sick meta? Shouldn't a profession be able to deal damage just like any other? Why certain professions do better than other in specific roles? - The pace which balance patches are delivered is very low, but when it hits, BAM, another meta. Always the same thing. And old people that once played PvP are not coming back because of this meta promotion. It's not healthy for the game and everyone knows it. But I don't see devs creating threads regarding this subject on the professions' forums. Where's the communication? (**If they once created this sort of discussion, please, let me know**). > > I'm not holding my hopes high for the next week, but I sincerely wait for a more fair and deeper approach to the existing specializations, including the core ones. > > They already stated that they won't do anything about trash balance in next patch. That's how I feel when a balance patch hits. > @"witcher.3197" said: > > @"Galaa.8475" said: > > well dang it! maybe no more nerfing. > > > > Anet not nerfing things is exactly what got into this situation. The powercreep is so bad that the game is almost unplayable. I fear there aren't enough playtests to nerf the power creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despond.2174 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Queue then 1-2min, WVW map 2 squads. Like this nearly any time of the day. It isn't dead at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Most I have to wait for a game to pop is about 5-7 minutes for ranked and that's gold/platinum. Most I have to wait for unranked is about 2 minutes. Population isn't dead. PvP Mojo on the other hand, is long dead.  No attraction anymore, no competitiveness, no one looking to better themselves, most people run around the map in groups of 4 ganking and killing people off point. There's no essence anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taltevus.3289 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 It was dead when even R100 was empty. XD Some people don't know what it was like in 2013 Hotjoin was just amazing. In the sense it was a place to really test things out. Waffles ORIELO CUDDLEZ BUCKETS GOOB SHERRY ....yeah I hated most of them but damn...I could at least play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Pvp isn't dead, but it is technically not alive either. I can't pick a side in good faith. There's a huge issue here in that if you make gameplay easy, you lose people willing to practice against players who can gain similar results with less effort and the skilled end of the playerbase dies, but if you make it too demanding the new/unskilled end dies because the pvp community is toxic and intolerant to people learning, even on unranked. Pvp seems to be in a position where both of these are happening at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volrath.1473 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 With 2-5 min queues even late night how can someone say PvP is dead? Yes balance is rubbish but PvP lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian.9103 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 *Smartphone shenanigans here. Just ignore it.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARIORSCHARGEING.2637 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 pvp is dead!! anet will never fix it !! nor will they make pvp any more better!! all you blind to see that well when the game ends up like city of hero's or other games . just do not try to be so shocked when it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > RIP > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Daishi.6027" said: > PvP was dead on arrival when they decided to format the game in a way that refused to force balance where it was _**Fair**_ 2v2-3v3 regardless of class, revolving around enemy player deaths as a win condition. This was important for a MMO's PvP to succeeded unless you make the game a strait MOBA. > > They tried the team game thing but with no jousts or any form of _proper_ push and pull. > They tried the conquest thing where rotations, and picking and choosing engagements was important. > They tried to make this game an e-sport despite how hard it is to watch, when the vast majority can't distinguish what is going on; and those already invested struggle find it interesting. > > But it was doomed. > > The proof of this claim was shown time and again from a few examples like: petting zoo, the exodus of pro players, and the end to ESL, among many others. > The meta shifts, but it's always dominated by the same type of thing, regardless of what face or class you put it on simply because of the nature of the game. > > For all the years this game has been out, there has been no direct address to the formula except an attempt at stronghold. > Fact is even is balance is better, even if the game is more fun to play at times; the game and it's type are still bad. > > It's the smallest population in game, it's probably the least profitable, and it's the hardest to justify sinking money into; especially when a-net is already needing to push a revenue stream. Majority of the players remaining are the tiny minority who actually enjoy conquest, players who just want to kill players when WvW is a poorly accommodating environment that also requires investment for a proper build, and PvE/WvW players who come looking for rewards. > > Dead in the traditional sense? No, probably not. Maybe even their numbers grow. But PvP is irrelevant to the point where it might as well be dead. > > I optimistically think it could make a come back, and maybe even be e-sport level... But the core issues need to be fixed. Actually WoW has proven to have the smallest PvP community even when they boasted to have the best PvP. They were shown to only have about at least a 7-10 percent PvP population. They are going solely off of money already being made and expansions they were released. WoW literally is in the worse spot mmo PvP could ever be in. Just wanted to put my two cents in there since you claimed gw2 was the smallest somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > > > RIP > > > > > > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. > > It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. You shouldn't be bothered with the truth, should i be the one bothered about you stalking me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > > > > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > > > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > > > > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > > > > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > > > > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > > > > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > > > > > RIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. > > > > It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. > > You shouldn't be bothered about me posting the truth, i should be the one bothered about you stalking me?? LOL stalking you. Sweetie, you ain't that special so don't worry about THAT. I don't even know you. For people that regulate the forums, it's not rare to see the same people posting. Like I used to see someone like Crinn, Morwath, or any of the other folk. You are just another forum user that regulates the forums. I just tend to see you QQing more than usual these days, so I thought I would comment on that. My bad for interrupting your depressed party, I guess you can go continue that and keep being miserable. /Shrug People rather just inflicting this unsatisfied feeling to themselves instead of just leaving and play what they enjoy. But no, instead they rather fight other people and call them out for supposed 'stalking'. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > > > > > > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > > > > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > > > > > > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > > > > > > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > > > > > > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > > > > > > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > > > > > > > RIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. > > > > > > It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. > > > > You shouldn't be bothered about me posting the truth, i should be the one bothered about you stalking me?? > > LOL stalking you. > Sweetie, you ain't that special so don't worry about THAT. I don't even know you. > > For people that regulate the forums, it's not rare to see the same people posting. > > Like I used to see someone like Crinn, Morwath, or any of the other folk. You are just another forum user that regulates the forums. I just tend to see you QQing more than usual these days, so I thought I would comment on that. > > My bad for interrupting your depressed party, I guess you can go continue that and keep being miserable. > > /Shrug > > People rather just inflicting this unsatisfied feeling to themselves instead of just leaving and play what they enjoy. But no, instead they rather fight other people and call them out for supposed 'stalking'. What a joke. Are you easily offended by the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > > > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > > > > > > > > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > > > > > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > > > > > > > > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > > > > > > > > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > > > > > > > > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > > > > > > > > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > > > > > > > > > RIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. > > > > > > > > It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. > > > > > > You shouldn't be bothered about me posting the truth, i should be the one bothered about you stalking me?? > > > > LOL stalking you. > > Sweetie, you ain't that special so don't worry about THAT. I don't even know you. > > > > For people that regulate the forums, it's not rare to see the same people posting. > > > > Like I used to see someone like Crinn, Morwath, or any of the other folk. You are just another forum user that regulates the forums. I just tend to see you QQing more than usual these days, so I thought I would comment on that. > > > > My bad for interrupting your depressed party, I guess you can go continue that and keep being miserable. > > > > /Shrug > > > > People rather just inflicting this unsatisfied feeling to themselves instead of just leaving and play what they enjoy. But no, instead they rather fight other people and call them out for supposed 'stalking'. What a joke. > > Are you easily offended by the truth? Okay. I can see this is going nowhere. Have a good time bud, you're gonna need it. I'm gonna make myself some coffee and escort myself out of the QQ forums, because this is all what it is now. Bitter people and unhealthy attachments that can easily be cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guizao.4167 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > > > > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > > > > > > > > > > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > > > > > > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > > > > > > > > > > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > > > > > > > > > > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > > > > > > > > > > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > > > > > > > > > > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > > > > > > > > > > > RIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. > > > > > > > > > > It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. > > > > > > > > You shouldn't be bothered about me posting the truth, i should be the one bothered about you stalking me?? > > > > > > LOL stalking you. > > > Sweetie, you ain't that special so don't worry about THAT. I don't even know you. > > > > > > For people that regulate the forums, it's not rare to see the same people posting. > > > > > > Like I used to see someone like Crinn, Morwath, or any of the other folk. You are just another forum user that regulates the forums. I just tend to see you QQing more than usual these days, so I thought I would comment on that. > > > > > > My bad for interrupting your depressed party, I guess you can go continue that and keep being miserable. > > > > > > /Shrug > > > > > > People rather just inflicting this unsatisfied feeling to themselves instead of just leaving and play what they enjoy. But no, instead they rather fight other people and call them out for supposed 'stalking'. What a joke. > > > > Are you easily offended by the truth? > > Okay. I can see this is going nowhere. > > Have a good time bud, you're gonna need it. I'm gonna make myself some coffee and escort myself out of the QQ forums, because this is all what it is now. Bitter people and unhealthy attachments that can easily be cut off. Prove your point then we can argue seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guizao.4167 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Volrath.1473" said: > With 2-5 min queues even late night how can someone say PvP is dead? > Yes balance is rubbish but PvP lives! That's an illusion you know. > @"Despond.2174" said: > Queue then 1-2min, WVW map 2 squads. Like this nearly any time of the day. It isn't dead at all. But the quality is surely dead. > @"Taltevus.3289" said: > It was dead when even R100 was empty. XD Some people don't know what it was like in 2013 Hotjoin was just amazing. > In the sense it was a place to really test things out. > Waffles > ORIELO > CUDDLEZ > BUCKETS > GOOB > SHERRY > ....yeah I hated most of them but kitten...I could at least play... I remember those days when few players reached rank 50 and hotjoins were so populated with every kind of build and pvp was fun to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I used to play an MMO with 8 or less players playing the PVP there... The game had a player count of how many were queuing for a game and how many were already in a game. ***8 players***. During the game's release there were about 40 players everyday. That is dead. GW2 is nowhere near dead but it is getting there. There are probably still hundreds playing PVP daily, but the number is dropping because of subpar balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Guizao.4167" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > > > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > > > > > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > > > > > > > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't be bothered about me posting the truth, i should be the one bothered about you stalking me?? > > > > > > > > LOL stalking you. > > > > Sweetie, you ain't that special so don't worry about THAT. I don't even know you. > > > > > > > > For people that regulate the forums, it's not rare to see the same people posting. > > > > > > > > Like I used to see someone like Crinn, Morwath, or any of the other folk. You are just another forum user that regulates the forums. I just tend to see you QQing more than usual these days, so I thought I would comment on that. > > > > > > > > My bad for interrupting your depressed party, I guess you can go continue that and keep being miserable. > > > > > > > > /Shrug > > > > > > > > People rather just inflicting this unsatisfied feeling to themselves instead of just leaving and play what they enjoy. But no, instead they rather fight other people and call them out for supposed 'stalking'. What a joke. > > > > > > Are you easily offended by the truth? > > > > Okay. I can see this is going nowhere. > > > > Have a good time bud, you're gonna need it. I'm gonna make myself some coffee and escort myself out of the QQ forums, because this is all what it is now. Bitter people and unhealthy attachments that can easily be cut off. > > Prove your point then we can argue seriously. My point is, simply saying the same thing over and over is not going to get you anywhere. Burnfall and the same set of people have been doing for close to at least half a year, probably more if I actually didn't check the forums before this time now. You all literally remind me of Helseth. An ESL player who literally left for Smite, realized he couldn't prosper in Smite, came back to GW2, had a rage fit on his stream about Anet deserving nothing. Left again and then soon enough came back. This is, at least, his THIRD time leaving and each time his behavior has gotten grossly worse. That is the book definition of insanity of you want to be real technical. Expecting something different with using the same tactics. I am not advocating for Gw2 PVP, especially when my favorite class is practically unplayable. But watching people literally keeping doing/saying the same thing over and over? How is that serious? I am trying to tell people it is better off for them to take a break, yet they STILL come back here and do the SAME thing. Someone commented it sounds like an addiction, or maybe it is nostalgic attachment, but saying I am not serious after several people had told this group it is better for them to take break perhaps leave the game so they won't end up this way. Well, screw me, right? Guess it's really time to just sit back as a bystander and watch this burn because no one wants to listen anymore. Chaith, and all the other ESL players made their choice, and I applaud them for that. They chose their time and effort into someplace else. Maybe it will get better, maybe worse, but sitting just copying and pasting what 50 people already said is clearly not working either. But again, my two cents. Do what you will. Excelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guizao.4167 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > @"Guizao.4167" said: > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > > > > > > see for yourself: where competitive competition, healthy gameplay, healthy environment mattered including the players > > > > > > > > http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17820122/ns/technology_and_sciall#.WlVAU6inFqM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We Don't Matter To Anet, Our Concerns Are Non-Existent To Them, They Don't Value Us, > > > > > > > > Guild Wars 2 Was Never For Us Really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > History Is Written All Over The Wall. Let Us Accept, Embrace PVP Deaths > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Open Arms, No More Painful Memories, No More Repeatable Lessons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leave Pvp In The Grave Where It Belongs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Engrave In Writing- '6 Years Fail To Deliver Quality, Healthy, Competitive Product To Customers' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude why is it everywhere I go on PvP forums there is never a normal response. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is literally something I would imagine on a soap opera and then rain clouds all around you. Sheesh, I understand, you hate the PvP scene, but that doesn't mean you have to be melodramatic everywhere. Just move on if you literally so unhappy that you have to receive a bootleg poem everywhere you go. > > > > > > > > > > > > You shouldn't be bothered about me posting the truth, i should be the one bothered about you stalking me?? > > > > > > > > > > LOL stalking you. > > > > > Sweetie, you ain't that special so don't worry about THAT. I don't even know you. > > > > > > > > > > For people that regulate the forums, it's not rare to see the same people posting. > > > > > > > > > > Like I used to see someone like Crinn, Morwath, or any of the other folk. You are just another forum user that regulates the forums. I just tend to see you QQing more than usual these days, so I thought I would comment on that. > > > > > > > > > > My bad for interrupting your depressed party, I guess you can go continue that and keep being miserable. > > > > > > > > > > /Shrug > > > > > > > > > > People rather just inflicting this unsatisfied feeling to themselves instead of just leaving and play what they enjoy. But no, instead they rather fight other people and call them out for supposed 'stalking'. What a joke. > > > > > > > > Are you easily offended by the truth? > > > > > > Okay. I can see this is going nowhere. > > > > > > Have a good time bud, you're gonna need it. I'm gonna make myself some coffee and escort myself out of the QQ forums, because this is all what it is now. Bitter people and unhealthy attachments that can easily be cut off. > > > > Prove your point then we can argue seriously. > > My point is, simply saying the same thing over and over is not going to get you anywhere. Burnfall and the same set of people have been doing for close to at least half a year, probably more if I actually didn't check the forums before this time now. > > You all literally remind me of Helseth. An ESL player who literally left for Smite, realized he couldn't prosper in Smite, came back to GW2, had a rage fit on his stream about Anet deserving nothing. Left again and then soon enough came back. This is, at least, his THIRD time leaving and each time his behavior has gotten grossly worse. > > That is the book definition of insanity of you want to be real technical. Expecting something different with using the same tactics. I am not advocating for Gw2 PVP, especially when my favorite class is practically unplayable. > > But watching people literally keeping doing/saying the same thing over and over? How is that serious? I am trying to tell people it is better off for them to take a break, yet they STILL come back here and do the SAME thing. Someone commented it sounds like an addiction, or maybe it is nostalgic attachment, but saying I am not serious after several people had told this group it is better for them to take break perhaps leave the game so they won't end up this way. > > Well, screw me, right? > > Guess it's really time to just sit back as a bystander and watch this burn because no one wants to listen anymore. Chaith, and all the other ESL players made their choice, and I applaud them for that. They chose their time and effort into someplace else. Maybe it will get better, maybe worse, but sitting just copying and pasting what 50 people already said is clearly not working either. > > But again, my two cents. Do what you will. > > Excelsior. I agree with you. And I'm almost reaching the point you mentioned - leaving this game as it is until it gets better. You're right about insanity definition, but for people like me who plays this game since 2012, I can tell you that I love it a lot. It saddens me that only PvE is healthy right now. By all ends, yes you're right, I'm not getting anywhere with this post. ArenaNet will do whatever they feel like doing no matter what. Maybe it's time to play something else? SMITE is amazing and I recently bought the God's Pack. Time to try WoW for real? Maybe worth it. Thanks for your insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > Sitting just copying and pasting what 50 people already said is clearly not working either. The irony is not lost on me since I am probably person 51 for this quote, but this is generally my thought on the matter. The balance isn't where it needs to be. At this point we can either refrain from playing it and sate competition cravings elsewhere, accept that pvp is broken and ignore ranked as an impossibility, or b**** about it so much that we end up becoming part of the problem. Guild Wars isn't worth this much stress or time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guizao.4167 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > Sitting just copying and pasting what 50 people already said is clearly not working either. > > The irony is not lost on me since I am probably person 51 for this quote, but this is generally my thought on the matter. > > The balance isn't where it needs to be. At this point we can either refrain from playing it and sate competition cravings elsewhere, accept that pvp is broken and ignore ranked as an impossibility, or b**** about it so much that we end up becoming part of the problem. > Guild Wars isn't worth this much stress or time. I must be number 1 right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There's a difference between "not popular" and "dead game". I don't have any issues with queing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Why are you continuously voting on dease questions? Such a waste of time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now